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Wireless PC cannot see non wireless workgroup

Author
11 Apr 2007 1:54 PM
Khartoum
I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a hub.
The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc for
some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on the
network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine until
i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of router. I
am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless network on
start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much appreciated.

Author
11 Apr 2007 2:36 PM
Frankster
Post the output of the "ipconfig /all" command from a working workstation
and your non-working laptop.

How, exactly, are you trying to "see" the other computers from your laptop.

Also, make sure the laptop has the same workgroup name as the other PCs.

-Frank

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"Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
>hub.
> The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
> therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc for
> some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
> the
> network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
> until
> i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
> router. I
> am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless network
> on
> start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
> router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
> appreciated.
Author
12 Apr 2007 8:04 AM
Khartoum
They are all in same workgroup, they are all assigned ip addresses from
router. The shares are all set up in a share point. it worked prior to
replacing the router but i have the settings all the same so am baffled


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"Frankster" wrote:

> Post the output of the "ipconfig /all" command from a working workstation
> and your non-working laptop.
>
> How, exactly, are you trying to "see" the other computers from your laptop.
>
> Also, make sure the laptop has the same workgroup name as the other PCs.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51AEEDA6-E433-4DDF-83D3-8D4E1159F77F@microsoft.com...
> >I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
> >hub.
> > The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
> > therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc for
> > some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
> > the
> > network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
> > until
> > i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
> > router. I
> > am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless network
> > on
> > start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
> > router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
> > appreciated.
>
>
Author
12 Apr 2007 1:32 PM
Frankster
What about my first two requests?

-Frank

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"Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> They are all in same workgroup, they are all assigned ip addresses from
> router. The shares are all set up in a share point. it worked prior to
> replacing the router but i have the settings all the same so am baffled
>
>
> "Frankster" wrote:
>
>> Post the output of the "ipconfig /all" command from a working workstation
>> and your non-working laptop.
>>
>> How, exactly, are you trying to "see" the other computers from your
>> laptop.
>>
>> Also, make sure the laptop has the same workgroup name as the other PCs.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51AEEDA6-E433-4DDF-83D3-8D4E1159F77F@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
>> >hub.
>> > The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
>> > therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc
>> > for
>> > some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
>> > the
>> > network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
>> > until
>> > i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
>> > router. I
>> > am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless
>> > network
>> > on
>> > start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
>> > router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
>> > appreciated.
>>
>>
Author
11 Apr 2007 2:37 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Assuming that all the computers have an IP assigned by the Router's DHCP and
are in the same Network group.
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
>hub.
> The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
> therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc for
> some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
> the
> network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
> until
> i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
> router. I
> am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless network
> on
> start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
> router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
> appreciated.
Author
12 Apr 2007 8:00 AM
Khartoum
Hi jack, i have been into the router to check they were all assigned ip
addresses and they were. They are all in the same network group. I have set
up all the shares. Thats why i am baffled, it was working fine until i
replaced the router with a new one, not done anything different. i was
wondering whether the wireless settings in any way can affect it

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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Assuming that all the computers have an IP assigned by the Router's DHCP and
> are in the same Network group.
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
> settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
> each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
> Basic XP -
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
> Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Printer Sharing XP -
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51AEEDA6-E433-4DDF-83D3-8D4E1159F77F@microsoft.com...
> >I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
> >hub.
> > The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
> > therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc for
> > some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
> > the
> > network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
> > until
> > i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
> > router. I
> > am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless network
> > on
> > start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
> > router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
> > appreciated.
>
>
>
Author
12 Apr 2007 4:34 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Wireless settings should not affect sharing unless there is some issues with
the Router per-se.
Look at the Router's Brand support site, if there is a updated firmware
update the Router.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi jack, i have been into the router to check they were all assigned ip
> addresses and they were. They are all in the same network group. I have
> set
> up all the shares. Thats why i am baffled, it was working fine until i
> replaced the router with a new one, not done anything different. i was
> wondering whether the wireless settings in any way can affect it
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Assuming that all the computers have an IP assigned by the Router's DHCP
>> and
>> are in the same Network group.
>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>> settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment
>> of
>> each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
>> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
>> Basic XP -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
>> Advanced XP -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>> Printer Sharing XP -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
>> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51AEEDA6-E433-4DDF-83D3-8D4E1159F77F@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
>> >hub.
>> > The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
>> > therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc
>> > for
>> > some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
>> > the
>> > network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
>> > until
>> > i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
>> > router. I
>> > am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless
>> > network
>> > on
>> > start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
>> > router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
>> > appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
Author
12 Apr 2007 8:14 PM
Khartoum
I did upgrade firmware when i installed router but i'll check it was most
recent
thansk

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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Wireless settings should not affect sharing unless there is some issues with
> the Router per-se.
> Look at the Router's Brand support site, if there is a updated firmware
> update the Router.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A31D3016-6CE1-4D8C-9470-429C7E430641@microsoft.com...
> > Hi jack, i have been into the router to check they were all assigned ip
> > addresses and they were. They are all in the same network group. I have
> > set
> > up all the shares. Thats why i am baffled, it was working fine until i
> > replaced the router with a new one, not done anything different. i was
> > wondering whether the wireless settings in any way can affect it
> >
> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> Assuming that all the computers have an IP assigned by the Router's DHCP
> >> and
> >> are in the same Network group.
> >> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
> >> settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment
> >> of
> >> each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
> >> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
> >> Basic XP -
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
> >> Advanced XP -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> >> Printer Sharing XP -
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
> >> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> >> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >>
> >> "Khartoum" <Khart***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:51AEEDA6-E433-4DDF-83D3-8D4E1159F77F@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a network of 5 PC's, one is wireless, the other 4 connected via a
> >> >hub.
> >> > The hub is connected to a router. The router is also wireless enabled
> >> > therfore the wireless pc connects via that route, but the wireless pc
> >> > for
> >> > some reason cannot see the workgroup and hence open shared files etc on
> >> > the
> >> > network. It is saying - you may not have permissions. This worked fine
> >> > until
> >> > i needed to renew the router due to a fault, it is the same type of
> >> > router. I
> >> > am thinking it is because the wireless pc attaches to the wireless
> >> > network
> >> > on
> >> > start up but i still thought it would see the other workgroupo via the
> >> > router. Any clues what i may have done wrong would be very much
> >> > appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>