Wired ethernet not working after wireless setup

microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless

25 Sep 2007 6:52 PM

STAN1ZX

I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost the
ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.

Stan

25 Sep 2007 7:35 PM

Jack (MVP-Networking).

Hi
You can set the preference so that it would work with the wired connection
when it is available.
Here how, http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost
>the ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
>connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
> Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
> The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.
>
> Stan

26 Sep 2007 5:45 PM

STAN1ZX

Hi Jack and Phillip,
Thanks for responding to my post.
Before I start and before I bring this machine down to less than square 1.
I need your advice on the following.
The machine in question is XP tabletop, which originally was wired from the
Ethernet on the PC
to the Ethernet on the modem.
I have since installed a PCI wireless card on this XP machine to work it
through a wireless Linksys router.
In the process of setting this up, the wireless card worked right up to
the "access point but could not
get through the router".
Eventually I had to use the "Windows Zero Config Utility" to get it setup.
and working through the wireless card to the modem.
In trying to determine if I still had wired Ethernet function on this XP
desktop, by wiring directly from the Ethernet connector on the PC to the
Ethernet on the modem, I found that the desktop could not see the
modem.even after going through its self diagnostics. Apparently, this
connectivity on the PC is lost.
Given this scenario, is there anything else I should know about or do before
starting the outlined procedure to maintain the wireless connectivity and
rebuild the Ethernet? Hopefully ending up with a working wireless
connection to the wireless router and Ethernet capability when needed.
Thanks
Stan

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From: "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <j***@discussiongroup.com>

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Wired ethernet not working after wireless setup

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> Hi
> You can set the preference so that it would work with the wired connection
> when it is available.
> Here how, http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ecmbbV6$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost
>>the ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
>>connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
>> Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
>> The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.
>>
>> Stan
>

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
news:u1tots6$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> You can set the preference so that it would work with the wired connection
> when it is available.
> Here how, http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ecmbbV6$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost
>>the ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
>>connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
>> Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
>> The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.
>>
>> Stan
>

26 Sep 2007 6:35 PM

Phillip Windell

You may be misusing the terminology and confusing us as to what devices you
really have. These are all distinctly separate devices for different
purposes:

Cable/DSL modem
Broadband "router"
Broadband wireless "router"
Access Point
Switch
Hub

A broadband router is in most cases a Switch and a NAT Firewall built into
the same device. Some of them also include a Cable/DSL modem built into
them as well

A broadband wireless router is a Switch, a NAT Firewall, and an Access
Point, and possibly a Cable/DSL modem all built into the same device

An Access Point is not a "router". In some cases it is both an Access Point
and a Switch built into the same device, and that is usually distinguished
by how many ethernet ports are on the back of it. A straight Access Point
will only have one port.

If the "modem" is a separate device from the "router" then you never really
connect to the modem,...it is a Layer2 device and is effectively
"invisible". You would connect to the "router" if there is one, and if not
then the next closest device would be the ISP's internet router at the
opposite end of the line.

Anyway, no matter which Nic you use you need to make sure it gets an IP
configuration from either your "router" or the ISP's DHCP. If it gets an
address that begins with 169 then is has failed. Check it by running
"ipconfig" from a command prompt. If it gets a good config then ping the ip
number that is reported as the Default Gateway and verify that you get a
reply.

The Access Point, once configured and connected to, also acts as a Layer2
device and is effectively "invisible". The only thing that even knows the
Access Point is there is the Radio component of the wireless nic. The IP#
of the Access Point is only for the purpose of managing the Access Point
with the management interface and serves no other real purpose. The Access
Point is more-or-less identical to a Network Switch except that the Clients
don't use wires to connect to it. In this paragraph I am not talking about
a wireless "router" which has an Access Point built into it.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

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"STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Jack and Phillip,
> Thanks for responding to my post.
> Before I start and before I bring this machine down to less than square 1.
> I need your advice on the following.
> The machine in question is XP tabletop, which originally was wired from
> the
> Ethernet on the PC
> to the Ethernet on the modem.
> I have since installed a PCI wireless card on this XP machine to work it
> through a wireless Linksys router.
> In the process of setting this up, the wireless card worked right up to
> the "access point but could not
> get through the router".
> Eventually I had to use the "Windows Zero Config Utility" to get it
> setup.
> and working through the wireless card to the modem.
> In trying to determine if I still had wired Ethernet function on this XP
> desktop, by wiring directly from the Ethernet connector on the PC to the
> Ethernet on the modem, I found that the desktop could not see the
> modem.even after going through its self diagnostics. Apparently, this
> connectivity on the PC is lost.
> Given this scenario, is there anything else I should know about or do
> before
> starting the outlined procedure to maintain the wireless connectivity and
> rebuild the Ethernet? Hopefully ending up with a working wireless
> connection to the wireless router and Ethernet capability when needed.
> Thanks
> Stan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <j***@discussiongroup.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Wired ethernet not working after wireless setup
>
>
>> Hi
>> You can set the preference so that it would work with the wired
>> connection when it is available.
>> Here how, http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ecmbbV6$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost
>>>the ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
>>>connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
>>> Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
>>> The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.
>>>
>>> Stan
>>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
> news:u1tots6$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> You can set the preference so that it would work with the wired
>> connection when it is available.
>> Here how, http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "STAN1ZX" <n***@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ecmbbV6$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I have recently setup a wireless network and in the process I have lost
>>>the ability to use my PC off the network by going wired from the ethernet
>>>connector on the PC, to the ethernet connector on the modem
>>> Is this normal or did I do something wrong??
>>> The wireless Linksys-N network is working as expected.
>>>
>>> Stan
>>
>