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Connecting Wireless Network from Building to Building

Author
5 Oct 2007 8:52 AM
Jim
We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
ship - wirelessly.

The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging to a
bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.

The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to the
structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately connect
to the notebooks.

I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with only
using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we cannot
afford this network connection to be unreliable.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Author
5 Oct 2007 10:21 AM
Barb Bowman
You need to be a lot more specific about distance, obstacles between
the ship and the building and define the actual number of
simultaneous wireless users.

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:01 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:

>We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
>ship - wirelessly.
>
>The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging to a
>bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
>access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.
>
>The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to the
>structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately connect
>to the notebooks.
>
>I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
>bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with only
>using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we cannot
>afford this network connection to be unreliable.
>
>Any thoughts appreciated.
>
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Author
5 Oct 2007 10:36 AM
Jim
Can't be that specific as it is not going to be tied to one building.

The laptops (six devices) will be anything up to 150 metres from the ship,
with various obsticles inbetween eg walls, metal doors etc.

That's why I am asking about repeaters etc.


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"Barb Bowman" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> You need to be a lot more specific about distance, obstacles between
> the ship and the building and define the actual number of
> simultaneous wireless users.
>
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:01 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
>>ship - wirelessly.
>>
>>The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging to
>>a
>>bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
>>access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.
>>
>>The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to
>>the
>>structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately
>>connect
>>to the notebooks.
>>
>>I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
>>bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with
>>only
>>using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we
>>cannot
>>afford this network connection to be unreliable.
>>
>>Any thoughts appreciated.
>>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
Author
5 Oct 2007 2:43 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Technically you do it as describe in this page.
Wireless Bridging - http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
Would it work?
It depends on the environment and the capacity to install multiple
Bridges/Repeaters.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Can't be that specific as it is not going to be tied to one building.
>
> The laptops (six devices) will be anything up to 150 metres from the ship,
> with various obsticles inbetween eg walls, metal doors etc.
>
> That's why I am asking about repeaters etc.
>
>
> "Barb Bowman" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pv3cg39geld1vh17jducn12eeqm8v2md71@4ax.com...
>> You need to be a lot more specific about distance, obstacles between
>> the ship and the building and define the actual number of
>> simultaneous wireless users.
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:01 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
>>>ship - wirelessly.
>>>
>>>The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging
>>>to a
>>>bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
>>>access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.
>>>
>>>The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to
>>>the
>>>structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately
>>>connect
>>>to the notebooks.
>>>
>>>I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
>>>bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with
>>>only
>>>using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we
>>>cannot
>>>afford this network connection to be unreliable.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
>
Author
5 Oct 2007 2:48 PM
Robert L (MS-MVP)
We are did the same in our outdoor wireless using Cisco 1310 bridge. Based
on our experience, you must have very clean distance between bridge and
bridge/repeater/AP. More repeaters, the single will be weaker and
un-reliable.

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"Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Can't be that specific as it is not going to be tied to one building.
>
> The laptops (six devices) will be anything up to 150 metres from the ship,
> with various obsticles inbetween eg walls, metal doors etc.
>
> That's why I am asking about repeaters etc.
>
>
> "Barb Bowman" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pv3cg39geld1vh17jducn12eeqm8v2md71@4ax.com...
>> You need to be a lot more specific about distance, obstacles between
>> the ship and the building and define the actual number of
>> simultaneous wireless users.
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:01 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
>>>ship - wirelessly.
>>>
>>>The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging
>>>to a
>>>bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
>>>access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.
>>>
>>>The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to
>>>the
>>>structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately
>>>connect
>>>to the notebooks.
>>>
>>>I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
>>>bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with
>>>only
>>>using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we
>>>cannot
>>>afford this network connection to be unreliable.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
>
Author
5 Oct 2007 3:54 PM
Barb Bowman
You might need wired access points for roaming and/or wireless
repeaters coupled with one or more devices on the ship (you didn't
say how big the ship is). Or even a combination of everything,
depending on topology. Special antennae might help as well. If you
have the capability to hardwire some access points at the edges of
buildings, that would help, especially with walls and metal doors in
the line of sight.

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:36:53 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:

>Can't be that specific as it is not going to be tied to one building.
>
>The laptops (six devices) will be anything up to 150 metres from the ship,
>with various obsticles inbetween eg walls, metal doors etc.
>
>That's why I am asking about repeaters etc.
>
>
>"Barb Bowman" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:pv3cg39geld1vh17jducn12eeqm8v2md71@4ax.com...
>> You need to be a lot more specific about distance, obstacles between
>> the ship and the building and define the actual number of
>> simultaneous wireless users.
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:01 +0100, "Jim" <j**@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a requirement to connect a number of notebooks in a building to a
>>>ship - wirelessly.
>>>
>>>The current proposal is to have a wireless bridge on the ship, bridging to
>>>a
>>>bridge on the ground. This bridge on the ground is then connected to an
>>>access point by cable and the notebooks connect to the access point.
>>>
>>>The access point maybe required to be a distance from the bridge due to
>>>the
>>>structure of the buildings - so that the access point can definately
>>>connect
>>>to the notebooks.
>>>
>>>I am not sure this is the best way. I don't want to run a cable from the
>>>bridge to the access point. I looked before at a repeater inline - with
>>>only
>>>using access points - but the signal was slightly un-reliable and we
>>>cannot
>>>afford this network connection to be unreliable.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts appreciated.
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
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Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/