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wireless connectionWe have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a
wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What is a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from over riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. -- Barbara Barbara wrote:
> We have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a The hardware used for wireless networking is just a radio. Just as you > wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it > shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. > Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What is > a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from over > riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. can pick up the same commercial radio station as your neighbor can, anyone with a wireless network adapter in their computer can pick up all of the wireless networks within range (the range for wireless networks is much less than commercial AM/FM radio stations, but as you've discovered, it extends for at least a couple of houses). All of the following changes are made by connecting to your router with one of your computers -- connected, at least temporarily, with an Ethernet cable -- and accessing the router's configuration utility. Read your router's User Guide for directions, or give the make/model of your router in your next post. Because it is undesirable to let strangers have access to your wireless network (in addition to using your Internet connection, they may be able to access/change the files on your computer), you should "secure" your wireless network by enabling the encryption capability built in to your wireless router and wireless access points. There are 3 "flavors" of encryption commonly available on home routers/home computers: WEP, WPA, and WPA2. WEP is now easily crackable, so you shouldn't use it. If all of your equipment is capable of WPA2, use that; otherwise, use WPA. You will want to use WPA/WPA2 - PSK or WPA/WPA2 - Personal. If given the choice, use AES. After you add encryption to the router, you will also have make corresponding changes in each of your computers. Just like commercial radio stations, wireless networking equipment uses different channels, except there aren't very many. In the US, there are 11, but for practical purposes, only channels 1, 6, and 11 are far enough apart to make a difference. Most home routers default to channel 6. If you are experiencing interference from a nearby wireless network, change your router to use channel 1 or 11. Your computers will detect the change automatically. Also like commercial radio stations, each wireless router has its own "name" or "call sign." In the context of wireless networking, this is called the SSID. You should set the SSID in your router to something unique that is not your name or address. Here's some reading: Wireless - Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html Wireless - Basic Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html MVP Barb Bowman on wireless security - http://tinyurl.com/56fc5 Tom's Hardware Wireless Security FAQs http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/06/30/wireless_faq_security/index.html -- Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking To the moon and back with 4KB of RAM and 72KB of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 05:45:01 -0700, Barbara <Barb***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote: >We have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a Barbara,>wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it >shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. >Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What is >a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from over >riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. Depending upon the WiFi client that you're using, you should have a selection for "Preferred Connections". Make sure that you select Preferred Connections, and that the other connection is NOT in the list. And make sure that you have a unique SSID, and that you are broadcasting the SSID. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-wireless-computer-connect.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-wireless-computer-connect.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck and Lem,
Thank you both for responding so fast to my inquiry. I am not sure about doing what you all suggested but I will contact a neighbor who set up our wireless connection and see if he can secure our computers. I am new to wireless so feel inadequate on attempting to solve the problem. Again thank you! -- Barbara Show quote "Barbara" wrote: > We have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a > wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it > shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. > Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What is > a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from over > riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. > -- > Barbara On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:46:01 -0700, Barbara <Barb***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote: >Chuck and Lem, Barbara,> >Thank you both for responding so fast to my inquiry. I am not sure about >doing what you all suggested but I will contact a neighbor who set up our >wireless connection and see if he can secure our computers. I am new to >wireless so feel inadequate on attempting to solve the problem. Again thank >you! Computers will do that to everybody. I say that if you don't feel inadequate, you're not doing all that you can. I am highly inadequate, frequently, and I'll bet that a few others here would say the same. Come back here anytime, and ask more questions. We'll be here. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. I just don't want to mess up the computers. The brand of the wireless is:
Linksys-Compact B WRT54GC. Is there a simple and easy way that I can make our wireless connection secured? -- Barbara Show quote "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:46:01 -0700, Barbara <Barb***@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: > > >Chuck and Lem, > > > >Thank you both for responding so fast to my inquiry. I am not sure about > >doing what you all suggested but I will contact a neighbor who set up our > >wireless connection and see if he can secure our computers. I am new to > >wireless so feel inadequate on attempting to solve the problem. Again thank > >you! > > > Barbara, > > Computers will do that to everybody. I say that if you don't feel inadequate, > you're not doing all that you can. I am highly inadequate, frequently, and I'll > bet that a few others here would say the same. > > Come back here anytime, and ask more questions. We'll be here. > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > Barbara wrote:
> I just don't want to mess up the computers. The brand of the wireless is: It's not too hard, but you would do well to read the User Guide. It > Linksys-Compact B WRT54GC. Is there a simple and easy way that I can make > our wireless connection secured? should be on the CD that came with your router (in pdf form) or download it from this page: http://tinyurl.com/36956c Read Chapter 5. Basically, what you do is to connect a computer to the router using an Ethernet cable (this is temporary; you can go back to your wireless connection when you're done). Then, open a browser (IE or FireFox) and enter the router's address (192.168.1.1). This will take you to the router's log-in screen, and assuming that your neighbor didn't change the username/password, leave the User Name field blank and enter "admin" (without quotes) as the password. Click the "wireless" tab. On this page, you can set the SSID or the name for your wireless netowrk (see post from Pavel A.). Then click "wireless security." This is where you set the kind of encryption you will use (WEP/WPA/WPA2; see post from Jack) and the passphrase. Use WPA2-Personal (with AES) if the wifi adapter on both of your computers will support that or WPA-Personal (with AES). Or, as Pavel suggested, ask your neighbor to come back and set up encryption for you. -- Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking To the moon and back with 4KB of RAM and 72KB of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm "Barbara" <Barb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4B2685F5-FE3E-4899-BEA8-C2916C2FDC12@microsoft.com... Barbara,> We have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a > wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it > shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. > Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What is > a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from over > riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. > -- > Barbara It is normal and expected that your neigbor's network is visible in the scan list - that you call "toolbar". Wi-fi is just a radio - as Lem wrote - so it can pick everything that floats in the ether. Some people, however, are amazingly creative in choosing names for their wireless networks... Hope it is not your case :)) Your neigbor has a secured connection - this also is normal and expected. This means that connection to their network is possible only to those who has some kind of password. This is like everybody can see your house, but need a key to enter. In fact, every owner of a wi-fi network should lock it *well*, to avoid a lot of mutual issues between themselves and the neigbors. So now you can just proceed to securing your own wi-fi network and set your computers to work in it... Again, as others wrote, this may be pretty complex even for a pro. You are welcome to read the directions that come with your wi-fi router and adapters; tutorials kindly provided by members of this community. Or maybe your neigbor can just come over to help :) Regards, --PA Hi
From the weakest to the strongest, Wireless security capacity is. No Security MAC______(Band Aid if nothing else is available). WEP64____(Easy, to "Brake" by knowledgeable people). WEP128___(A little Harder, but "Hackable" too). WPA-PSK__(Very Hard to Brake ). WPA-AES__(Not functionally Breakable) WPA2____ (Not functionally Breakable). Note 1: WPA-AES the the current entry level rendition of WPA2. Note 2: If you use WinXP and did not updated it you would have to download the WPA2 patch from Microsoft. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357 The documentation of your Wireless devices (Wireless Router, and Wireless Computer's Card) should state the type of security that is available with your Wireless hardware. All devices MUST be set to the same security level using the same pass phrase. Therefore the security must be set according what ever is the best possible of one of the Wireless devices. I.e. even if most of your system might be capable to be configured to the max. with WPA2, but one device is only capable to be configured to max . of WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP. If you need more good security and one device (like a Wireless card that can do WEP only) is holding better security for the whole Network, replace the device with a better one. Setting Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quote "Barbara" <Barb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4B2685F5-FE3E-4899-BEA8-C2916C2FDC12@microsoft.com... > We have two computers on a wireless connection. Someone in our area has a > wireless connection also. Every time we boot up the second computer, it > shows the other person's wireless on our toobar with a secured connection. > Each time we have to open up our wireless connection and re-connect. What > is > a secured connection, how does it work and how can we prevent this from > over > riding our wireless? Any information would be helpful on this matter. > -- > Barbara |
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