>I have a small home network of 3 PCs running Windows XP Home edn.  One
>PC (the kids) is configured with two user accounts, one specifically for
>my kids (which is a 'limited' one) and my own (which is an administrator
>account).
>
>Up till now I have been able to share resources and folders between the
>PCs perfectly OK, but after a reformat and Windows reinstall on the kids
>PC, I am unable to access folders within the limited account from the
>other computers.
>
>I have enabled sharing of "My Documents" in both user accounts on the
>kids PC.
>
>I can see the kids PC on the network from my own PC, and can see the two
>folders which I have enabled for sharing.  I have RW access over the
>network to "My Documents" in the admin account, and to the "Shared
>Documents" folder; however when I try to open "My Documents" in the
>limited account I get:
>
>"\\KIDS_PC\My Documents is not accessible.  You might not have
>permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
>this server to find out if you have permissions. Access is denied"
>
>Finally, I've tried changing the kid's limited account into a full
>administrator account. Guess what - makes no difference!  I have checked
>all the Properties/Sharing tabs for both user accounts and they are
>identical AFAICS. Just that one can be accessed, the other can't!
>
>BTW I am running Windows Firewall on both machines, both configured to
>enable LAN access.
>
>Please help - this is driving me nuts!
>
>Thanks
>David

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:33:23 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I can see the kids PC on the network from my own PC, and can see the two
>>folders which I have enabled for sharing.  I have RW access over the
>>network to "My Documents" in the admin account, and to the "Shared
>>Documents" folder; however when I try to open "My Documents" in the
>>limited account I get:
>>
>>"\\KIDS_PC\My Documents is not accessible.  You might not have
>>permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
>>this server to find out if you have permissions. Access is denied"
>>
>>Finally, I've tried changing the kid's limited account into a full
>>administrator account. Guess what - makes no difference!  I have checked
>>all the Properties/Sharing tabs for both user accounts and they are
>>identical AFAICS. Just that one can be accessed, the other can't!


> Make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer.  Enable Guest,
> with Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command
> window.  Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run -
> "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
> entering a new password.

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:33:23 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I can see the kids PC on the network from my own PC, and can see the two
>>>folders which I have enabled for sharing.  I have RW access over the
>>>network to "My Documents" in the admin account, and to the "Shared
>>>Documents" folder; however when I try to open "My Documents" in the
>>>limited account I get:
>>>
>>>"\\KIDS_PC\My Documents is not accessible.  You might not have
>>>permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
>>>this server to find out if you have permissions. Access is denied"
>>>
>>>Finally, I've tried changing the kid's limited account into a full
>>>administrator account. Guess what - makes no difference!  I have checked
>>>all the Properties/Sharing tabs for both user accounts and they are
>>>identical AFAICS. Just that one can be accessed, the other can't!
>
>
>> Make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer.  Enable Guest,
>> with Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command
>> window.  Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run -
>> "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
>> entering a new password.
>
>Thanks - have tried this to no avail (but all was set OK anyway)
>
>> Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access "C:\Program
>> Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My
>> Documents".  All of those folders require individual user, or administrator
>> access, and Guest access gives you neither.
>
>But I'm trying to connect *from* a PC where I do have admin access, so
>surely that should work?  Certainly I can connect fine to our 3rd PC in
>this way.  And also, as I mentioned I temporarily set the "Kids" user
>account to "Administrator", but that makes no difference either!
>
>Thanks
>David

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:04:17 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:33:23 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can see the kids PC on the network from my own PC, and can see the two
>>>>folders which I have enabled for sharing.  I have RW access over the
>>>>network to "My Documents" in the admin account, and to the "Shared
>>>>Documents" folder; however when I try to open "My Documents" in the
>>>>limited account I get:
>>>>
>>>>"\\KIDS_PC\My Documents is not accessible.  You might not have
>>>>permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
>>>>this server to find out if you have permissions. Access is denied"
>>>>
>>>>Finally, I've tried changing the kid's limited account into a full
>>>>administrator account. Guess what - makes no difference!  I have checked
>>>>all the Properties/Sharing tabs for both user accounts and they are
>>>>identical AFAICS. Just that one can be accessed, the other can't!
>>
>>
>>>Make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer.  Enable Guest,
>>>with Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command
>>>window.  Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run -
>>>"control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
>>>entering a new password.
>>
>>Thanks - have tried this to no avail (but all was set OK anyway)

>>
>>>Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access "C:\Program
>>>Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My
>>>Documents".  All of those folders require individual user, or administrator
>>>access, and Guest access gives you neither.
>>
>>But I'm trying to connect *from* a PC where I do have admin access, so
>>surely that should work?  Certainly I can connect fine to our 3rd PC in
>>this way.  And also, as I mentioned I temporarily set the "Kids" user
>>account to "Administrator", but that makes no difference either!

> With XP Home and Simple File Sharing, network access is authenticated (granted)
> to the Guest account only.  Regardless of the access you have on the client,
> server access will be as Guest and no more.  And Guest has to be active, and
> have matching (or no) password on both client and server.
>
> More about file sharing, in the definitive Microsoft document:
> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:04:17 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:33:23 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I can see the kids PC on the network from my own PC, and can see the two
>>>>>folders which I have enabled for sharing.  I have RW access over the
>>>>>network to "My Documents" in the admin account, and to the "Shared
>>>>>Documents" folder; however when I try to open "My Documents" in the
>>>>>limited account I get:
>>>>>
>>>>>"\\KIDS_PC\My Documents is not accessible.  You might not have
>>>>>permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
>>>>>this server to find out if you have permissions. Access is denied"
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, I've tried changing the kid's limited account into a full
>>>>>administrator account. Guess what - makes no difference!  I have checked
>>>>>all the Properties/Sharing tabs for both user accounts and they are
>>>>>identical AFAICS. Just that one can be accessed, the other can't!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer.  Enable Guest,
>>>>with Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command
>>>>window.  Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run -
>>>>"control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
>>>>entering a new password.
>>>
>>>Thanks - have tried this to no avail (but all was set OK anyway)
>
>>>
>>>>Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access "C:\Program
>>>>Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My
>>>>Documents".  All of those folders require individual user, or administrator
>>>>access, and Guest access gives you neither.
>>>
>>>But I'm trying to connect *from* a PC where I do have admin access, so
>>>surely that should work?  Certainly I can connect fine to our 3rd PC in
>>>this way.  And also, as I mentioned I temporarily set the "Kids" user
>>>account to "Administrator", but that makes no difference either!
>
>> With XP Home and Simple File Sharing, network access is authenticated (granted)
>> to the Guest account only.  Regardless of the access you have on the client,
>> server access will be as Guest and no more.  And Guest has to be active, and
>> have matching (or no) password on both client and server.
>>
>> More about file sharing, in the definitive Microsoft document:
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>
>
>I'm still struggling with this big time.
>I've enabled the Guest account on both PCs (although I never used to
>have them active).
>
>I can access \\KIDS_PC\My Documents fine for the account "Admin", but
>not in the account "Kids" (that one gives me the Access Denied error).
>
>Since I changed the account type, the "Kids" account is a Computer
>Administrator as well as the "Admin" one. There is no difference between
>them!  Yet I can access the My Documents folder in "Admin" over the
>network, but not "Kids".
>
>I've just tried setting the server root directory as a share.
>So now I can access:
>
>C:\
>C:\Documents and Settings\
>C:\Documents and Settings\Admin
>C:\Documents and Settings\Admins Documents
>C:\Documents and Settings\Guest
>C:\Documents and Settings\Guest's Documents
>BUT NOT:
>C:\Documents and Settings\Kids
>
>H E L P ..............!!
>
>David

"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 May 2005 19:40:49 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>H E L P ..............!!
>
> With XP Home, you can temporarily disable Simple File Sharing by starting
> up in
> "Safe Mode with Networking".
>
> A Description of the Safe Mode Boot Options in Windows XP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315222
>
> With Simple File Sharing disabled, right click the desired folder, click
> Sharing
> and Security, and share the folder.  Then, click the Permissions button to
> specify network access permissions, and click the Security tab to specify
> NTFS
> file system permissions.  A network user needs both permissions in order
> to
> access the share.
>
> For details how to set permissions:
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
>
> Compare permissions in the Admin and Kids folders.

On Sat, 07 May 2005 15:39:43 GMT, "Lobster" <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message
>news:f8jn71hskl1q8mtba7ii8i5eb35koo0egp@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 06 May 2005 19:40:49 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>H E L P ..............!!
>>
>> With XP Home, you can temporarily disable Simple File Sharing by starting
>> up in
>> "Safe Mode with Networking".
>>
>> A Description of the Safe Mode Boot Options in Windows XP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315222
>>
>> With Simple File Sharing disabled, right click the desired folder, click
>> Sharing
>> and Security, and share the folder.  Then, click the Permissions button to
>> specify network access permissions, and click the Security tab to specify
>> NTFS
>> file system permissions.  A network user needs both permissions in order
>> to
>> access the share.
>>
>> For details how to set permissions:
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
>>
>> Compare permissions in the Admin and Kids folders.
>
>Woohoo! Unbelievably (!) it now works!
>I checked under the Security tab in both folders, and found a user called
>"Everyone" in the permissions table under the Admin folder; but this was not
>present under the Kids folder.  So I created a new user "Everyone", gave him
>full r/w access, and rebooted in Normal Mode; and all is now fine.  Does
>this make sense, as a solution?!
>
>I'm naturally extremely grateful to you, Chuck - I wouldn't have been able
>to sort this out myself in a million years.  But what on earth's going on?
>How did Microsoft expect me, as a mere mortal, non-networking expert ever to
>get my PC networked properly, having to delve so deep into Windows?  Had
>something in my setup become corrupted, and I've put it right now?
>
>Thanks again
>David

>On Sat, 07 May 2005 15:39:43 GMT, "Lobster" <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message
>>news:f8jn71hskl1q8mtba7ii8i5eb35koo0egp@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 06 May 2005 19:40:49 GMT, Lobster <davidlobsterpot***@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>H E L P ..............!!
>>>
>>> With XP Home, you can temporarily disable Simple File Sharing by starting
>>> up in
>>> "Safe Mode with Networking".
>>>
>>> A Description of the Safe Mode Boot Options in Windows XP:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315222
>>>
>>> With Simple File Sharing disabled, right click the desired folder, click
>>> Sharing
>>> and Security, and share the folder.  Then, click the Permissions button to
>>> specify network access permissions, and click the Security tab to specify
>>> NTFS
>>> file system permissions.  A network user needs both permissions in order
>>> to
>>> access the share.
>>>
>>> For details how to set permissions:
>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
>>>
>>> Compare permissions in the Admin and Kids folders.
>>
>>Woohoo! Unbelievably (!) it now works!
>>I checked under the Security tab in both folders, and found a user called
>>"Everyone" in the permissions table under the Admin folder; but this was not
>>present under the Kids folder.  So I created a new user "Everyone", gave him
>>full r/w access, and rebooted in Normal Mode; and all is now fine.  Does
>>this make sense, as a solution?!
>>
>>I'm naturally extremely grateful to you, Chuck - I wouldn't have been able
>>to sort this out myself in a million years.  But what on earth's going on?
>>How did Microsoft expect me, as a mere mortal, non-networking expert ever to
>>get my PC networked properly, having to delve so deep into Windows?  Had
>>something in my setup become corrupted, and I've put it right now?
>>
>>Thanks again
>>David
>
>David,
>
>That's great news!  That absolutely makes sense, and it's good to confirm the
>effectiveness of the Safe Mode - SFS disabling procedure etc.  Thanks for the
>feedback!
>
>You ask a good question too.  I went thru an experience like yours, and this is
>where I got help.  Read my blog article:
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/windows-xp-file-sharing-anything-but.html>.
>

>I printed this post, and your web pages, and stepped through my system in the hope of correcting whatever I had previously done wrongly.  However it made no difference. (I wrote down in sequence every icon, menu, tab, list and button that I clicked, but I won't reproduce it here unless you ask)
>
>My task is to:-
>Create a limited user on each of the peers
>Create a directory on each of the peers
>Share the directory among each of the peers
>Permit limited user on any peer to access shared directory on any peer
>
>I previously attempted this by running the following batch file on each peer:-
>net user student /add /passwordreq:no /passwordchg:no /active:yes
>md c:\netfolder
>net share netfolder=c:\netfolder /unlimited
>cacls c:\netfolder /t /e /g student:c
>
>Using mouse clicks or using commands, the share works for Administrative users but not Limited users.  Am I doing something wrong, or is XP Home SP1 not able to deliver what I want?
>
>Thanks,