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1 Jan 2007 12:03 AM
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I have to pcs both running WinXP Pro.  I tried to hook them up as a network. 
Each computer can see one another but can not access each other.  They want
to sign in as a guest and there is no option to change the "guest" to the
computer name.  What is happening and can anyone give me some pointers?

Thank you and Happy New Year

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1 Jan 2007 3:38 AM
John Wunderlich
=?Utf-8?B?S0ItMQ==?= <K**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:2370084A-EED6-405D-B3DD-14525FD2CD2C@microsoft.com:

> I have to pcs both running WinXP Pro.  I tried to hook them up as
> a network.  Each computer can see one another but can not access
> each other.  They want to sign in as a guest and there is no
> option to change the "guest" to the computer name.  What is
> happening and can anyone give me some pointers?
>

On an XP Pro machine that has not been connected to a domain, the
default networking is set up to use the Guest account.  Also by
default, the guest account is not enabled.  Probably all you have to do
is enable the guest account.  For more info, see:

"Description of the Guest account in Windows XP"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300489/en-us"

HTH,
  John
Author
1 Jan 2007 1:00 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <Xns98AAC7B98157Bwunderpsdrscraytheon@207.46.248.16>, John
Wunderlich <jwunderl***@lycos.com> wrote:
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>=?Utf-8?B?S0ItMQ==?= <K**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>news:2370084A-EED6-405D-B3DD-14525FD2CD2C@microsoft.com:
>
>> I have to pcs both running WinXP Pro.  I tried to hook them up as
>> a network.  Each computer can see one another but can not access
>> each other.  They want to sign in as a guest and there is no
>> option to change the "guest" to the computer name.  What is
>> happening and can anyone give me some pointers?
>>
>
>On an XP Pro machine that has not been connected to a domain, the
>default networking is set up to use the Guest account.  Also by
>default, the guest account is not enabled.  Probably all you have to do
>is enable the guest account.  For more info, see:
>
>"Description of the Guest account in Windows XP"
><http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300489/en-us"
>
>HTH,
>  John

Hi, John.  I looked at that KB article, and I don't think that it
gives a complete or accurate description of how the Guest account
works in networked access.  In my opinion, XP's "simple file sharing",
which uses the Guest account, is badly designed, badly implemented,
and hard to understand, and Microsoft's own documentation gets it
wrong.

The section on "Using the Guest account on the local computer" is
about configuring the Guest account in Control Panel > User Accounts
(where it's disabled by default).  However, that has nothing to do
with whether other computers can access this computer's shared
resources over a network.  It only determines whether a user can log
on as Guest at the local keyboard and what privileges such a user has
on the local computer.

There's a different setting that determines whether the Guest account
is allowed to have access to shared resources over a network, and that
setting is enabled by default.  You can control that setting by typing
these commands in a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd):

   Enable:
      net user guest /active:yes

   Disable:
      net user guest /active:no

After much searching, I found an accurate description of this on one
Microsoft web page:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/906574.mspx

In the section "Frequently Asked Questions", it says:

"How do I disable the Guest account on a Windows XP Home system?

At a command prompt, type Net User Guest /Active:No to disable the
guest account on workgroup joined systems. Disabling the guest account
will block Simple File Sharing".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Author
7 Jan 2007 8:51 PM
John Wunderlich
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in
news:opvhp29c1vjsq7mtd88qg1i21v9fptijbi@4ax.com:

> Hi, John.  I looked at that KB article, and I don't think that it
> gives a complete or accurate description of how the Guest account
> works in networked access.  In my opinion, XP's "simple file
> sharing", which uses the Guest account, is badly designed, badly
> implemented, and hard to understand, and Microsoft's own
> documentation gets it wrong.
>
> The section on "Using the Guest account on the local computer" is
> about configuring the Guest account in Control Panel > User
> Accounts (where it's disabled by default).  However, that has
> nothing to do with whether other computers can access this
> computer's shared resources over a network.  It only determines
> whether a user can log on as Guest at the local keyboard and what
> privileges such a user has on the local computer.
>
> There's a different setting that determines whether the Guest
> account is allowed to have access to shared resources over a
> network, and that setting is enabled by default.  You can control
> that setting by typing these commands in a command prompt window
> (Start > Run > cmd):
>
>    Enable:
>       net user guest /active:yes
>
>    Disable:
>       net user guest /active:no
>
> After much searching, I found an accurate description of this on
> one Microsoft web page:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/906574.mspx
>
> In the section "Frequently Asked Questions", it says:
>
> "How do I disable the Guest account on a Windows XP Home system?
>
> At a command prompt, type Net User Guest /Active:No to disable the
> guest account on workgroup joined systems. Disabling the guest
> account will block Simple File Sharing".
>

Thanks, Steve.
I too was a bit confused about how Microsoft refers to the Guest
account.  I appreciate the time/research you took to dig up this
clairification.  It does make a bit more sense now.
-- John
Author
8 Jan 2007 12:54 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <Xns98B182CD089D0wunderpsdrscraytheon@216.196.97.142>, John
Wunderlich <jwunderl***@lycos.com> wrote:
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>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in
>news:opvhp29c1vjsq7mtd88qg1i21v9fptijbi@4ax.com:
>
>> Hi, John.  I looked at that KB article, and I don't think that it
>> gives a complete or accurate description of how the Guest account
>> works in networked access.  In my opinion, XP's "simple file
>> sharing", which uses the Guest account, is badly designed, badly
>> implemented, and hard to understand, and Microsoft's own
>> documentation gets it wrong.
>>
>> The section on "Using the Guest account on the local computer" is
>> about configuring the Guest account in Control Panel > User
>> Accounts (where it's disabled by default).  However, that has
>> nothing to do with whether other computers can access this
>> computer's shared resources over a network.  It only determines
>> whether a user can log on as Guest at the local keyboard and what
>> privileges such a user has on the local computer.
>>
>> There's a different setting that determines whether the Guest
>> account is allowed to have access to shared resources over a
>> network, and that setting is enabled by default.  You can control
>> that setting by typing these commands in a command prompt window
>> (Start > Run > cmd):
>>
>>    Enable:
>>       net user guest /active:yes
>>
>>    Disable:
>>       net user guest /active:no
>>
>> After much searching, I found an accurate description of this on
>> one Microsoft web page:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/906574.mspx
>>
>> In the section "Frequently Asked Questions", it says:
>>
>> "How do I disable the Guest account on a Windows XP Home system?
>>
>> At a command prompt, type Net User Guest /Active:No to disable the
>> guest account on workgroup joined systems. Disabling the guest
>> account will block Simple File Sharing".
>
>Thanks, Steve.
>I too was a bit confused about how Microsoft refers to the Guest
>account.  I appreciate the time/research you took to dig up this
>clairification.  It does make a bit more sense now.
>-- John

You're welcome.

Microsoft itself is confused about the Guest account.  :-)
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com