can't setup network

3 Jan 2007 3:06 AM

matt_kimball

i have time warner's road runner and a linksys wrt54g router. I have
no trouble accessing the internet with my original computer, but i have
added a second computer in an effort to create a network. I can't see
one computer from the other, or access the internet from the new
computer. Also, i can't ping the gateway from the new computer, but
can ping the network adapter and the new computer's ip address. please
help. i've tried just about everyhting. i can't even connect the two
computers using a patch cable. the original computer is running xp pro
and the new computer is running xp home. feel free to email me.

3 Jan 2007 3:38 AM

Jim

<matt_kimb***@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>i have time warner's road runner and a linksys wrt54g router. I have
> no trouble accessing the internet with my original computer, but i have
> added a second computer in an effort to create a network. I can't see
> one computer from the other, or access the internet from the new
> computer. Also, i can't ping the gateway from the new computer, but
> can ping the network adapter and the new computer's ip address. please
> help. i've tried just about everyhting. i can't even connect the two
> computers using a patch cable. the original computer is running xp pro
> and the new computer is running xp home. feel free to email me.
>

Your problems all point to some firewall blocking ICMP packets. You need to
be sure that there is only one firewall the problem computer and that the
firewall is properly configured to permit file and printer sharing.

It would help to know what the results from ipconfig/all are.

Jim

3 Jan 2007 4:38 AM

ilyaz

Jim,
I'm having the same problem with one exception: both machine are Win XP Home
SP2 with all patches... Here's my ipconfig:

Windows IP Configuration
        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : T2862
        Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
        Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-B PCI Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-95-D3-E4
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 71.3.0.116
                                            209.26.88.31
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 02, 2007
7:52:51 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 03, 2007
7:52:51PM

I'll appreciate your assistance.

--
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida

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"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> <matt_kimb***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1167793568.714462.288270@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>i have time warner's road runner and a linksys wrt54g router. I have
>> no trouble accessing the internet with my original computer, but i have
>> added a second computer in an effort to create a network. I can't see
>> one computer from the other, or access the internet from the new
>> computer. Also, i can't ping the gateway from the new computer, but
>> can ping the network adapter and the new computer's ip address. please
>> help. i've tried just about everyhting. i can't even connect the two
>> computers using a patch cable. the original computer is running xp pro
>> and the new computer is running xp home. feel free to email me.
>>
> Your problems all point to some firewall blocking ICMP packets. You need
> to be sure that there is only one firewall the problem computer and that
> the firewall is properly configured to permit file and printer sharing.
>
> It would help to know what the results from ipconfig/all are.
>
> Jim
>

3 Jan 2007 5:42 PM

Jim

Hi:

Both of my computers report the node type as "Hybrid". I don't know that
the node type makes a difference, but you should check that out.

The next item is whether your firewall is passing ICMP packets or not. I
use ZA, and I had to hunt to find where to enable file and printer sharing.

Nearly all the time, the reason for not being able to share files and
printers (assuming that you have set up the shares correctly) is that some
firewall is blocking ICMP.
As Chuck has mentioned numerous times, this blocking can be caused by
improper setup of a firewall or overlooking of multiple firewalls. I had
this last problem once.

A simple test is to use the ping command. It sends and receives ICMP
packets (of the appropriate type). So, if you can't ping, you won't be able
to share files and printers either.

Jim
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"ilyaz" <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim,
> I'm having the same problem with one exception: both machine are Win XP
> Home SP2 with all patches... Here's my ipconfig:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : T2862
>        Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-B PCI Adapter
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-95-D3-E4
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 71.3.0.116
>                                            209.26.88.31
>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 02, 2007
> 7:52:51 PM
>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 03, 2007
> 7:52:51PM
>
> I'll appreciate your assistance.
>
> --
> Ilya Zeldes
> Fort Myers, Florida
>
> "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:8zFmh.57211$wP1.15653@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> <matt_kimb***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167793568.714462.288270@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>i have time warner's road runner and a linksys wrt54g router. I have
>>> no trouble accessing the internet with my original computer, but i have
>>> added a second computer in an effort to create a network. I can't see
>>> one computer from the other, or access the internet from the new
>>> computer. Also, i can't ping the gateway from the new computer, but
>>> can ping the network adapter and the new computer's ip address. please
>>> help. i've tried just about everyhting. i can't even connect the two
>>> computers using a patch cable. the original computer is running xp pro
>>> and the new computer is running xp home. feel free to email me.
>>>
>> Your problems all point to some firewall blocking ICMP packets. You need
>> to be sure that there is only one firewall the problem computer and that
>> the firewall is properly configured to permit file and printer sharing.
>>
>> It would help to know what the results from ipconfig/all are.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>

3 Jan 2007 9:27 PM

Chuck

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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:42:06 GMT, "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote:

>"ilyaz" <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:8zFmh.57211$wP1.15653@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>> <matt_kimb***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1167793568.714462.288270@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>i have time warner's road runner and a linksys wrt54g router. I have
>>>> no trouble accessing the internet with my original computer, but i have
>>>> added a second computer in an effort to create a network. I can't see
>>>> one computer from the other, or access the internet from the new
>>>> computer. Also, i can't ping the gateway from the new computer, but
>>>> can ping the network adapter and the new computer's ip address. please
>>>> help. i've tried just about everyhting. i can't even connect the two
>>>> computers using a patch cable. the original computer is running xp pro
>>>> and the new computer is running xp home. feel free to email me.
>>>>
>>> Your problems all point to some firewall blocking ICMP packets. You need
>>> to be sure that there is only one firewall the problem computer and that
>>> the firewall is properly configured to permit file and printer sharing.
>>>
>>> It would help to know what the results from ipconfig/all are.

>news:%23nT9VEvLHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Jim,
>> I'm having the same problem with one exception: both machine are Win XP
>> Home SP2 with all patches... Here's my ipconfig:
>>
>> Windows IP Configuration
>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : T2862
>>        Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-B PCI Adapter
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-95-D3-E4
>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 71.3.0.116
>>                                            209.26.88.31
>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 02, 2007
>> 7:52:51 PM
>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 03, 2007
>> 7:52:51PM
>>
>> I'll appreciate your assistance.

>Hi:
>
>Both of my computers report the node type as "Hybrid". I don't know that
>the node type makes a difference, but you should check that out.
>
>The next item is whether your firewall is passing ICMP packets or not. I
>use ZA, and I had to hunt to find where to enable file and printer sharing.
>
>Nearly all the time, the reason for not being able to share files and
>printers (assuming that you have set up the shares correctly) is that some
>firewall is blocking ICMP.
>As Chuck has mentioned numerous times, this blocking can be caused by
>improper setup of a firewall or overlooking of multiple firewalls. I had
>this last problem once.
>
>A simple test is to use the ping command. It sends and receives ICMP
>packets (of the appropriate type). So, if you can't ping, you won't be able
>to share files and printers either.
>
>Jim

Hi Jim,

The ping command is valid, when the network stack is otherwise clean. If
alternate protocols are present, the ping command isn't as accurate.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html

A cluttered network stack can be diagnosed with a combination of "ipconfig /all"
and "browstat status". It won't affect ping results, but it will screw up file
sharing, in various ways.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

But you're right, the number one problem discussed in this forum is
misconfigured and overlooked firewalls and other security components.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

5 Jan 2007 4:36 AM

matt_kimball

Jim,

ipconfig/all on my problem computer returned the following:

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : stattik2
        Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel (R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connection
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-F2-66-EF
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.136
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.93.41.125
                                            24.93.41.126

the results from my working computer are as follows:

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : stattik
        Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI
Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-82-A8-4B
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.93.41.125
                                            24.93.41.126

both have firewalls turned off and still nothing. I think at this
point i've tried just about everything, i just don't know enough about
networking. again, feel free to email matt_kimb***@hotmail.com

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> Your problems all point to some firewall blocking ICMP packets. You need to
> be sure that there is only one firewall the problem computer and that the
> firewall is properly configured to permit file and printer sharing.
>
> It would help to know what the results from ipconfig/all are.
>
> Jim