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Wireless network duplicating a wired networkFollowing my previous 2 posts, can anyone help with the following questions: 1. I have two computers, a desktop and a laptop, that I normally connect with a wired network connection for the purpose of file and printer sharing. The printer is is connected to the desktop. Both computers now have wireless interfaces installed. When the computers are not connected by wire I would like to use a secured wireless network connection to link them together so as to get the same functionality as I get when they are connected by the wired connection. To this end, I set up a wireless network connection in each of the two computers using the wizard, and transferred the parameters from the desktop to the laptop using a memory key. However I cannot get the newly set-up wireless network to appear when I issue the "View Available Wireless Connection" command in the laptop. Is this because a wireless Access Point is also needed to enable the computers to communicate with each other? I was hoping that the wireless network card installed in the desktop could be configured as the access point of the 2-computer network, thereby making a separate Access Point unnecessary. 2. Both computers can automatically connect to a wireless broadband router that my neighbour lets me share. This wireless connection is unsecured. How secure is my local network resources in this set-up? Thanks for any guidance. Enquiring Mind Hi
WIFI Wireless communication have two basic modes. Infrastructure, Wireless Client connected to Wireless Cable/DSL Router/Access Point. Ad-Hoc, Wireless Client connected to Wireless Client. To be able to connected the two computer Wirelessly you have to configure them both to Ad-Hoc. When you need to connect to a Wireless Router you would have to change the configuration back to Infrastructure. Type the term Ad-Hoc to Windows native help, and it would explain how to configure. Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Enquiring Mind" <Enquiring.Mind@nospam.btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:OpNgfEAMHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > Following my previous 2 posts, can anyone help with the following > questions: > > 1. I have two computers, a desktop and a laptop, that I normally connect > with a wired network connection for the purpose of file and printer > sharing. The printer is is connected to the desktop. > > Both computers now have wireless interfaces installed. When the computers > are not connected by wire I would like to use a secured wireless network > connection to link them together so as to get the same functionality as I > get when they are connected by the wired connection. To this end, I set up > a wireless network connection in each of the two computers using the > wizard, and transferred the parameters from the desktop to the laptop > using a memory key. However I cannot get the newly set-up wireless network > to appear when I issue the "View Available Wireless Connection" command in > the laptop. Is this because a wireless Access Point is also needed to > enable the computers to communicate with each other? I was hoping that the > wireless network card installed in the desktop could be configured as the > access point of the 2-computer network, thereby making a separate Access > Point unnecessary. > > 2. Both computers can automatically connect to a wireless broadband router > that my neighbour lets me share. This wireless connection is unsecured. > How secure is my local network resources in this set-up? > > Thanks for any guidance. > > Enquiring Mind > > Hi
Thanks for response. To investigate the access mode settings (Infrastructure, Ad hoc, etc.) I called up the properties form for Wireless Network I have just tried to set up, and noted the following: 1) The network name (SSID) field shows the correct name, but is greyed 2) The check box labelled "This is a computer-to-computer (ad hoc) netwrok is disabled, and therefore unchecked. The following parameters are set: - Network authentication: Shared; - Data encryption: WEP; - EnableIEEE802.1x authentication: Checked; - EAP type: Smart card or other certificate; - Authentiacte as computer when computer information is available: Checked; - Connect when this network is in range: Checked In the "Advanced" form that appears when the "Advanced" button on the "Wireless Networks" tab of the "Wireless Network Connection Properties" form is clicked, the "Any available network (access point preferred)" radio button is selected. I then ensured that the same properties are set on the second computer, disconnected both computers from the Wireless Network exposed by my neighbour's broadband wireless router, and then issued the "View Available Networks" command. The available networks that appear in the list only include those of the broadband routers in the building, plus a mystery computer-to-computer wireless network of which more later, but not the local wireless network that I have attempted to set up. There are a couple of odd points about the Available networks lists: 1. Although the two computers are placed only a few feet apart, each computer produces a different list of available networks when "View Available Wireless Networks" command is issued. 2. Computer #1 is not currently connected to a Wireless network. The available wireless network list includes, in addition to my neighbour's network, which is described as an "Unsecured wireless network", another network, called "ShowCenter", which is described as "Unsecured computer-to-computer network". When I inspected the properties of this network it appears to be an ad-hoc open unsecured network between computers. What could be the source of this network? 3. Computer #2. Pausing the mouse over the wireless network icon in the notification area brings up the message "Wireless network connection (peer-to-peer) .Speed 11.0 Mbps. Status connected". When I select "Status" in the context menu for the Wireless Network Connection icon that appears in the Network Connections window, I discover that the computer is connected to "ShowCenter" and is sending data packets, but not receiving any. But when I issue the command "View Available Wireless Networks", "ShowCenter" does not appear in the list, thus not offering the opportunity to disconnect from it. "ShowCenter" does appear however, in the list of preferred wireless networks that is displayed in the "Wireless Network Connection Properties" form. As I cannot figure out what exactly is going on, I am naturally a little concerned. An obvious question that springs to mind is: how can I remove from the computers the wireless network that I set up using the "Set up wireless network" wizard? Also why have my computers got a computer-to-computer wireless network called "ShowCenter" that I never set up? Thanks for any guidance. Enquiring Mind Show quoteHide quote "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message news:OpYesbCMHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi > WIFI Wireless communication have two basic modes. > Infrastructure, Wireless Client connected to Wireless Cable/DSL > Router/Access Point. > Ad-Hoc, Wireless Client connected to Wireless Client. > To be able to connected the two computer Wirelessly you have to configure > them both to Ad-Hoc. > When you need to connect to a Wireless Router you would have to change the > configuration back to Infrastructure. > Type the term Ad-Hoc to Windows native help, and it would explain how to > configure. > Jack (MVP-Networking). > Hi,
Further to my previous post, I have concluded that the Wireless Network called "ShowCenter" must be a wireless media player in the building that I wasn't aware of. The only question is: why does computer #2 automatically connect to it, and why does it not show up in the list given by "View Available Wireless Networks"? In order to try to set up the wireless network as an ad hoc network, I deleted the network I previously set up using the wireless network set-up wizard by removing it from the list of preferred networks. I then ran the wizard again, with a view to setting the network up as an ad-hoc network, but discovered that the wizard assumes that you are setting up a network that includes an Access point. Nowhere in the process can the user indicate a preference for an ad-hoc network. So the conclusion sems to be: "Don't use the Wireless Network Setup wizard is you want to set up an ad-hoc network! The wizard is not capable enough to be able to handle all the types of network supported by the operating system!" I therefore set up a new wireless network manually by clicking the Add button below the list of Preferred Networks in the Wireless Network Connection Properties form, and checking the Ad-hoc check box. I repeated this for the other computer so as to get the same parameters recorded in both computers. (Whilst the Wireless Network setup wizard enables you to copy the settings from one computer onto a flash draive so that they can be transferred to another computer without the risk of transcription errors, no such luck with the form you get from clicking the the Add button. The user interface for wireless network management can be fairly characterised as poor.) After a little more fiddling, I eventually succeeded is getting this peer-to-peer wireless network to show up in the list produced by "View Available Wireless Connections". However the process wasn't finished yet, because to be able to use printer and file sharing on the newly created wireless peer-to-peer network I understand you have to run the Network Setup wizard. But when I tried this I did not see the newly created wireless network appear as an option for the networks to apply the sharing to. At that point I was tempted to give up and defect to the Mac OS ! Let's hope that Windows Vista does something to improve this inadequate user interface functionality, or that someone can explain to me in clear terms where I was going wrong! Regards, Enquiring Mind Enquiring Mind wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi, Not secure at all of others nearby have laptops or wireless cards installed. > > Following my previous 2 posts, can anyone help with the following > questions: > 1. I have two computers, a desktop and a laptop, that I normally > connect with a wired network connection for the purpose of file and > printer sharing. The printer is is connected to the desktop. > > Both computers now have wireless interfaces installed. When the > computers are not connected by wire I would like to use a secured > wireless network connection to link them together so as to get the > same functionality as I get when they are connected by the wired > connection. To this end, I set up a wireless network connection in > each of the two computers using the wizard, and transferred the > parameters from the desktop to the laptop using a memory key. However > I cannot get the newly set-up wireless network to appear when I issue > the "View Available Wireless Connection" command in the laptop. Is > this because a wireless Access Point is also needed to enable the > computers to communicate with each other? I was hoping that the > wireless network card installed in the desktop could be configured as > the access point of the 2-computer network, thereby making a separate > Access Point unnecessary. > 2. Both computers can automatically connect to a wireless broadband > router that my neighbour lets me share. This wireless connection is > unsecured. How secure is my local network resources in this set-up? Anyone can use it; that's what you're doing in fact. Show quoteHide quote > > Thanks for any guidance. > > Enquiring Mind
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