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Home networking with a wired and wireless networkOkay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless network
through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then a gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the linksys router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired network and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I look on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function just fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share the printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. Hopefully someone can help me.
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"Roelant" <Roel***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message What are the IP addresses of all of these items?news:4BD22BBB-C245-4C89-8BDE-6F72258AB05E@microsoft.com... > Okay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless > network > through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired > network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. > > Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then a > gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the > linksys > router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired > network > and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I > look > on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function just > fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share the > printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. > > Hopefully someone can help me. I have a setup somewhat like yours, but my connection goes from the DSL modem to a Linksys router. All of the systems connect to the router. The router furnishes all IP addresses hence they are part of the same subnet. Jim Roelant wrote:
> Okay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless network The description of your physical layout is missing some information, but > through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired > network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. > > Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then a > gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the linksys > router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired network > and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I look > on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function just > fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share the > printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. > > Hopefully someone can help me. it sounds to me as if you may have multiple routers and this multiple subnets. One thing you might do is, on each computer, open a command prompt window by going to Start > Run and typing "cmd.exe" (without quotes) and clicking OK. In the window that opens, type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes) and press Enter. The IP address for each computer (at least for the network interface that's being used - wireless for the laptops) should have the first 3 octets the same. For example, 192.168.1.x, where the x can be any number from 2 to 255. If the first 3 octets are not the same, the computers won't see each other. Going back to your physical setup: - what is the "gateway" to the bedrooms and how is it connected to the modem? - what is connected to the router in the office, and which jack on the router is it connected to? -- Lem MS MVP -- Networking To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer Lem, thanks for responding. I thought it is called a gateway, I just looked
on the Linksys site and it is called "EtherFast® Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port Switch." This is what is connected to the modem and then connects to 4 of the rooms in my house (wired). In one of these rooms I have a connection to a laptop and in another room a connection to a Linksys wireless router, "Wireless-G Broadband Router." This router connects through a cable to my desktop and I have 2 other laptops that connect to the internet wirelessly. Every one of these 4 devices connect to the internet perfectly. However, I am trying to set all of them up to use the printer that is connected to the desktop and have no clue how to do this. Any help is greatly appreciated. Show quoteHide quote "Lem" wrote: > Roelant wrote: > > Okay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless network > > through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired > > network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. > > > > Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then a > > gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the linksys > > router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired network > > and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I look > > on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function just > > fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share the > > printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. > > > > Hopefully someone can help me. > > The description of your physical layout is missing some information, but > it sounds to me as if you may have multiple routers and this multiple > subnets. One thing you might do is, on each computer, open a command > prompt window by going to Start > Run and typing "cmd.exe" (without > quotes) and clicking OK. In the window that opens, type "ipconfig /all" > (without quotes) and press Enter. > > The IP address for each computer (at least for the network interface > that's being used - wireless for the laptops) should have the first 3 > octets the same. For example, 192.168.1.x, where the x can be any > number from 2 to 255. If the first 3 octets are not the same, the > computers won't see each other. > > Going back to your physical setup: > - what is the "gateway" to the bedrooms and how is it connected to the > modem? > - what is connected to the router in the office, and which jack on the > router is it connected to? > > > > -- > Lem MS MVP -- Networking > > To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > Hi
If the second Router is connected to the first one through its WAN (Internet) port you created double Routing and two independent Networks, and thus you can not share resources. The second Router has to be connected as a Switch with an Access Point. like this. Wireless Router as an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Roelant" <Roel***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D39A46B6-4A26-47C8-A400-C19E5E65621F@microsoft.com... > Lem, thanks for responding. I thought it is called a gateway, I just > looked > on the Linksys site and it is called "EtherFast® Cable/DSL Router with > 4-Port > Switch." This is what is connected to the modem and then connects to 4 of > the rooms in my house (wired). In one of these rooms I have a connection > to > a laptop and in another room a connection to a Linksys wireless router, > "Wireless-G Broadband Router." This router connects through a cable to my > desktop and I have 2 other laptops that connect to the internet > wirelessly. > Every one of these 4 devices connect to the internet perfectly. However, > I > am trying to set all of them up to use the printer that is connected to > the > desktop and have no clue how to do this. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > "Lem" wrote: > >> Roelant wrote: >> > Okay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless >> > network >> > through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired >> > network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. >> > >> > Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then >> > a >> > gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the >> > linksys >> > router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired >> > network >> > and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I >> > look >> > on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function >> > just >> > fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share >> > the >> > printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. >> > >> > Hopefully someone can help me. >> >> The description of your physical layout is missing some information, but >> it sounds to me as if you may have multiple routers and this multiple >> subnets. One thing you might do is, on each computer, open a command >> prompt window by going to Start > Run and typing "cmd.exe" (without >> quotes) and clicking OK. In the window that opens, type "ipconfig /all" >> (without quotes) and press Enter. >> >> The IP address for each computer (at least for the network interface >> that's being used - wireless for the laptops) should have the first 3 >> octets the same. For example, 192.168.1.x, where the x can be any >> number from 2 to 255. If the first 3 octets are not the same, the >> computers won't see each other. >> >> Going back to your physical setup: >> - what is the "gateway" to the bedrooms and how is it connected to the >> modem? >> - what is connected to the router in the office, and which jack on the >> router is it connected to? >> >> >> >> -- >> Lem MS MVP -- Networking >> >> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >> Roelant wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Lem, thanks for responding. I thought it is called a gateway, I just looked Home routers, such as the 2 you have, combine a switch and a router. In > on the Linksys site and it is called "EtherFast® Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port > Switch." This is what is connected to the modem and then connects to 4 of > the rooms in my house (wired). In one of these rooms I have a connection to > a laptop and in another room a connection to a Linksys wireless router, > "Wireless-G Broadband Router." This router connects through a cable to my > desktop and I have 2 other laptops that connect to the internet wirelessly. > Every one of these 4 devices connect to the internet perfectly. However, I > am trying to set all of them up to use the printer that is connected to the > desktop and have no clue how to do this. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > "Lem" wrote: > >> Roelant wrote: >>> Okay, here we go. I have a wired network in my house and a wireless network >>> through a linksys router. I can't see the other computers on my wired >>> network and thus can't seem to share printers and such. >>> >>> Where the cable comes into the house it goes into the modem first, then a >>> gateway to the bedrooms. In the office the connection goes into the linksys >>> router and from there into the desktop. One bedroom uses the wired network >>> and can access the internet, but I can't see the other wired one when I look >>> on either of them. I use 2 laptops wirelessly and they both function just >>> fine accessing the internet, but I would also like to be able to share the >>> printer that is in the office connected to the desktop. >>> >>> Hopefully someone can help me. >> The description of your physical layout is missing some information, but >> it sounds to me as if you may have multiple routers and this multiple >> subnets. One thing you might do is, on each computer, open a command >> prompt window by going to Start > Run and typing "cmd.exe" (without >> quotes) and clicking OK. In the window that opens, type "ipconfig /all" >> (without quotes) and press Enter. >> >> The IP address for each computer (at least for the network interface >> that's being used - wireless for the laptops) should have the first 3 >> octets the same. For example, 192.168.1.x, where the x can be any >> number from 2 to 255. If the first 3 octets are not the same, the >> computers won't see each other. >> >> Going back to your physical setup: >> - what is the "gateway" to the bedrooms and how is it connected to the >> modem? >> - what is connected to the router in the office, and which jack on the >> router is it connected to? >> >> >> >> -- >> Lem MS MVP -- Networking >> >> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >> addition, the 2nd one adds a wireless access point. What you want to do is to disable the router portion of the WirelessG unit, and use only its switch and wireless access point. I suggest that you print out the following and read it through before you start changing things. The following assumes that the routers are at their default settings. First, to avoid confusion, disconnect from the WirelessG unit the cable that comes from the EtherFast router. You need to know what range of IP addresses is used by the Etherfast router. If it is a Linksys, it probably is 192.168.1.x, but just to be sure, go to the laptop that is directly wired to the Etherfast router and run the ipconfig /all command as described in my first post. You should see the IP address of the laptop (which I am guessing will be 192.168.1.100) and you should also see entries for "Default Gateway" and "DHCP Server." These probably will be the same, and probably will be 192.168.1.1 Assuming that the Etherfast router is at 192.168.1.1, do the following: Using your desktop, which connects to the WirelessG unit with a cable, access its configuration utility. You should be able to do this by entering 192.168.1.1 in a browser. On the Setup | Basic Setup screen, change the router's "Local IP address" from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2. Then disable the router's DHCP server. Then click "save settings." Note that once you do this, you will have to reconnect to the WirelessG unit's configuration utility by entering 192.168.1.2 in your browser. You might want to put that on a label and tape it to the router so you don't forget. Now connect the Ethernet cable from the 1st router to one of the 4 LAN jacks on the WirelessG unit, not to its WAN or "Internet" jack. Re-boot your desktop. Run ipconfig /all. You should see the DHCP server and Gateway as 192.168.1.1 and the desktop's IP address as 192.168.1.x, where x is different than the IP address of the first laptop. You can now fire up the wireless units and they should connect as well. All computers should show the same DHCP server (192.168.1.1) and Default Gateway (also 192.168.1.1). Each of the computers should have an IP address of the form 192.168.1.x, where x is probably 100, 101, 102, 103, and so on (unless you changed the default). Now all you have to do is to setup file and printer sharing. Here's a cut-n-paste from MS-MVP Malke that explains how to do it: Run the Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File & Printer Sharing, and reboot (also be sure to select the option that each computer connects to the Internet "through a residential gateway"). The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro: a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) - http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm If you still have problems, post back with the ipconfig /all information for each of the computers. -- Lem MS MVP -- Networking To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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