Shared folders not accesible over LAN by specific users.

3 Mar 2007 3:46 PM

pafos

XP Pro in use. Simple file sharing turned off.
Two pcs, wired LAN connected, also both sets of users have identical names
and passwords.The permissions settings for EVERYONE allow the remote computer
to connect to shared folders without problems but if I want a specific user
to have permission I get the access denied message.
I have checked all the settings and read a lot of "fix it articles" on the
net but still cannot find out why this is happening. The fact that the
EVERYONE permisions works ok in both directions must mean that the LAN
settings are correct TCP/IP ok and etc.etc. so it is down to password or user
name related matters. If I turn on simple file sharing then all is ok.
So anyone out there got any bright ideas as to what may be happening.
regards to all

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thanks in advance for any help
Peter

3 Mar 2007 7:01 PM

Chuck

On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:46:03 -0800, pafos <pa***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>XP Pro in use. Simple file sharing turned off.
>Two pcs, wired LAN connected, also both sets of users have identical names
>and passwords.The permissions settings for EVERYONE allow the remote computer
>to connect to shared folders without problems but if I want a specific user
>to have permission I get the access denied message.
>I have checked all the settings and read a lot of "fix it articles" on the
>net but still cannot find out why this is happening. The fact that the
>EVERYONE permisions works ok in both directions must mean that the LAN
>settings are correct TCP/IP ok and etc.etc. so it is down to password or user
>name related matters. If I turn on simple file sharing then all is ok.
>So anyone out there got any bright ideas as to what may be happening.
>regards to all

Having "Everyone" with the right permissions is where you start, but you need
specific permission too. Are the individual users activated for Network access?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate

Do you understand the differences between Security and Sharing permissions?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html

If you're turning Simple File Sharing on, then you're using Guest
authentication. What happens when you turn SFS off again?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

4 Mar 2007 1:19 PM

pafos

Hi Chuck---Thanks for the reply.
I had read all your valued info previously prior to my post and I fully
understand your comments. The specific user has both share permissions set
and NTFS security permissions set. Turning off SFS and then back on again
makes no difference. Another point is that if I also set up USERS with all
the permissions I still cannot get access across the LAN. On the local
computer everthing is fine and responds to the permission settings as one
would expect so I am ay a loss to know what is going on. I am convinced that
I have not overlooked anything. Should I be doing anything on the client
computer inside the user account?

regards

Peter

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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:46:03 -0800, pafos <pa***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >XP Pro in use. Simple file sharing turned off.
> >Two pcs, wired LAN connected, also both sets of users have identical names
> >and passwords.The permissions settings for EVERYONE allow the remote computer
> >to connect to shared folders without problems but if I want a specific user
> >to have permission I get the access denied message.
> >I have checked all the settings and read a lot of "fix it articles" on the
> >net but still cannot find out why this is happening. The fact that the
> >EVERYONE permisions works ok in both directions must mean that the LAN
> >settings are correct TCP/IP ok and etc.etc. so it is down to password or user
> >name related matters. If I turn on simple file sharing then all is ok.
> >So anyone out there got any bright ideas as to what may be happening.
> >regards to all
>
> Having "Everyone" with the right permissions is where you start, but you need
> specific permission too. Are the individual users activated for Network access?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate
>
> Do you understand the differences between Security and Sharing permissions?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html
>
> If you're turning Simple File Sharing on, then you're using Guest
> authentication. What happens when you turn SFS off again?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

5 Mar 2007 10:04 AM

pafos

Problem solved.

Having read very many pages and done many tests I decided that there was no
error in settings therefore it had to be user name and or password related.
Both computers had the same password and both computers showed the same name
at the login screen BUT when I looked at the user information within computer
management i noticed that the USER name on the client PC was a shortened
version of that on the host PC i.e Stephanie had become Steph. Correcting
that fixed it all. I then recalled having read that the displayed name was
not always the user name. So there we have it Chuck. Many thanks for your
input and I can say that I now know a lot more about netwroking in XP Pro
thanks to your written articles.
regards to all

--

Peter

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"pafos" wrote:

> Hi Chuck---Thanks for the reply.
> I had read all your valued info previously prior to my post and I fully
> understand your comments. The specific user has both    share permissions set
> and NTFS security permissions set. Turning off SFS and then back on again
> makes no difference. Another point is that if I also set up USERS with all
> the permissions I still cannot get access across the LAN. On the local
> computer everthing is fine and responds to the permission settings as one
> would expect so I am ay a loss to know what is going on. I am convinced that
> I have not overlooked anything. Should I be doing anything on the client
> computer inside the user account?
>
> regards
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:46:03 -0800, pafos <pa***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >XP Pro in use. Simple file sharing turned off.
> > >Two pcs, wired LAN connected, also both sets of users have identical names
> > >and passwords.The permissions settings for EVERYONE allow the remote computer
> > >to connect to shared folders without problems but if I want a specific user
> > >to have permission I get the access denied message.
> > >I have checked all the settings and read a lot of "fix it articles" on the
> > >net but still cannot find out why this is happening. The fact that the
> > >EVERYONE permisions works ok in both directions must mean that the LAN
> > >settings are correct TCP/IP ok and etc.etc. so it is down to password or user
> > >name related matters. If I turn on simple file sharing then all is ok.
> > >So anyone out there got any bright ideas as to what may be happening.
> > >regards to all
> >
> > Having "Everyone" with the right permissions is where you start, but you need
> > specific permission too. Are the individual users activated for Network access?
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate
> >
> > Do you understand the differences between Security and Sharing permissions?
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html
> >
> > If you're turning Simple File Sharing on, then you're using Guest
> > authentication. What happens when you turn SFS off again?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >

5 Mar 2007 7:19 PM

Chuck

On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 02:04:07 -0800, pafos <pa***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Problem solved.
>
>Having read very many pages and done many tests I decided that there was no
>error in settings therefore it had to be user name and or password related.
>Both computers had the same password and both computers showed the same name
>at the login screen BUT when I looked at the user information within computer
>management i noticed that the USER name on the client PC was a shortened
>version of that on the host PC i.e Stephanie had become Steph. Correcting
>that fixed it all. I then recalled having read that the displayed name was
>not always the user name. So there we have it Chuck. Many thanks for your
>input and I can say that I now know a lot more about netwroking in XP Pro
>thanks to your written articles.
>regards to all

DOHH.

Always check the details. Thanks for the update.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.