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Can't view workgroup computers!I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, while the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, why? I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these computers. I have even turned off firewalls. What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize files between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Scott Egbert Computer is running Windows XP with Norton Internet Security
"Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02...Show quote >I am having some issues with my home network. > I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. > The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, while > the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. > The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, > why? > I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these > computers. > I have even turned off firewalls. > > What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize files > between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. > > When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a > long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance, > Scott Egbert > In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert"
<res05***@verizon.net> wrote: Show quote >I am having some issues with my home network. Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. >The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, while >the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. >The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, >why? >I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these >computers. >I have even turned off firewalls. > >What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize files >between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. > >When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a >long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" > >Any ideas? > >Thanks in advance, >Scott Egbert whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a firewall, is causing the problem. If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: \\computer If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft Networks" are enabled. 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Hey Steve,
Okay, they could see each other in safemode. But they also "see each other" when I turn on Notebook first and then start the desktop after notebook is finished booting. If I start desktop (Ethernet cable to router) first, and then turn on notebook (wireless to router) they do not see each other. Also, if both computers are on and "see each other" and I turn off the notebook, then network becomes "inaccessible" again. Shouldn't the desktop see itself regardless? All LAN setting were as you suggested. Scott Show quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:oe15k3128muq49cgh5h2j3b19mq6a054v3@4ax.com... > In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert" > <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: >>I am having some issues with my home network. >>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. >>The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, while >>the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. >>The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, >>why? >>I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these >>computers. >>I have even turned off firewalls. >> >>What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize files >>between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. >> >>When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a >>long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" >> >>Any ideas? >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Scott Egbert > > Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice > whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a > program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a > firewall, is causing the problem. > > If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each > computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. > Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: > > \\computer > > If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: > > 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft > Networks" are enabled. > > 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, > and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Sorry,
If I use the run command (\\computer name) , both computers see each other, but stall and eventually the "inaccessible error pops up when I try to "view workgroup computers". Scott Show quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:oe15k3128muq49cgh5h2j3b19mq6a054v3@4ax.com... > In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert" > <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: >>I am having some issues with my home network. >>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. >>The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, while >>the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. >>The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, >>why? >>I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these >>computers. >>I have even turned off firewalls. >> >>What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize files >>between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. >> >>When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a >>long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" >> >>Any ideas? >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Scott Egbert > > Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice > whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a > program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a > firewall, is causing the problem. > > If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each > computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. > Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: > > \\computer > > If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: > > 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft > Networks" are enabled. > > 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, > and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Any more ideas?
"Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:GsM0j.204$Xg.99@trnddc06...Show quote > Sorry, > > If I use the run command (\\computer name) , both computers see each > other, but stall and eventually the "inaccessible error pops up > when I try to "view workgroup computers". > > Scott > > > "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:oe15k3128muq49cgh5h2j3b19mq6a054v3@4ax.com... >> In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert" >> <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: >>>I am having some issues with my home network. >>>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. >>>The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, >>>while >>>the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. >>>The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, >>>why? >>>I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these >>>computers. >>>I have even turned off firewalls. >>> >>>What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize >>>files >>>between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. >>> >>>When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a >>>long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" >>> >>>Any ideas? >>> >>>Thanks in advance, >>>Scott Egbert >> >> Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice >> whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a >> program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a >> firewall, is causing the problem. >> >> If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each >> computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. >> Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: >> >> \\computer >> >> If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: >> >> 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft >> Networks" are enabled. >> >> 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, >> and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. >> -- >> Best Wishes, >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > >
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:41:51 GMT, "Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: Scott,>"Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote in message >news:GsM0j.204$Xg.99@trnddc06... >> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:oe15k3128muq49cgh5h2j3b19mq6a054v3@4ax.com... >>> In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert" >>> <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>I am having some issues with my home network. >>>>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. >>>>The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, >>>>while >>>>the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. >>>>The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, >>>>why? >>>>I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these >>>>computers. >>>>I have even turned off firewalls. >>>> >>>>What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize >>>>files >>>>between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. >>>> >>>>When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a >>>>long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" >>>> >>>>Any ideas? >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance, >>>>Scott Egbert >>> >>> Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice >>> whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a >>> program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a >>> firewall, is causing the problem. >>> >>> If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each >>> computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. >>> Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: >>> >>> \\computer >>> >>> If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: >>> >>> 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft >>> Networks" are enabled. >>> >>> 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, >>> and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. >>> -- >>> Best Wishes, >>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >>> >>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >>> >>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >> Sorry, >> >> If I use the run command (\\computer name) , both computers see each >> other, but stall and eventually the "inaccessible error pops up >> when I try to "view workgroup computers". >> >> Scott >> >> >Any more ideas? I have ideas, Scott. You have a lot of reading to do though. What you're describing sounds like a master browser conflict, possibly involving a NetBT setting mismatch. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html The browser subsystem (which is what lets you "see" other computers) is a lot of fun to work with. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html If your browsing changes depending upon which computer starts first, you have a conflict there. Compare logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Look at "browstat status" logs from each computer, and compare when you start the computers in different orders too - you should see differences. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp And what antivirus program do you have? Many antivirus programs include an antiworm component that will block SMBs, and cause browser problems. Turning off a firewall won't solve such a problem. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html It's also possible that one computer has a corrupt LSP / Winsock stack. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Nov 27, 2:40 am, "Chuck [MVP]" <n***@example.net> wrote: Sccot, if you are running Norton Internet Security, you need to> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:41:51 GMT, "Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: > >"Scott Egbert" <res05***@verizon.net> wrote in message > >news:GsM0j.204$Xg.99@trnddc06... > >> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>news:oe15k3128muq49cgh5h2j3b19mq6a054v3@4ax.com... > >>> In article <XKn0j.17073$V74.16361@trnddc02>, "Scott Egbert" > >>> <res05***@verizon.net> wrote: > >>>>I am having some issues with my home network. > >>>>I have a network setup using my desktop as the server. > >>>>The desktop is connected to a wireless router via an Ethernet cable, > >>>>while > >>>>the other two notebook computers are connected wirelessly. > >>>>The two notebooks can always see each other, but rarely see the desktop, > >>>>why? > >>>>I have configured Norton firewall to allow all communications to these > >>>>computers. > >>>>I have even turned off firewalls. > > >>>>What's really strange is that I use windows briefcase to synchronize > >>>>files > >>>>between desktop and one of the notebooks , and it always connects. > > >>>>When I go to view "workbook computers" from the desktop it searches for a > >>>>long tome and then a error message pops up "workgroup is not accessible" > > >>>>Any ideas? > > >>>>Thanks in advance, > >>>>Scott Egbert > > >>> Start the desktop computer in "Safe mode with networking" and notice > >>> whether it can see and be seen by other computers. If it can, a > >>> program that only runs in normal mode on that computer, like a > >>> firewall, is causing the problem. > > >>> If that doesn't help, start in normal mode and try accessing each > >>> computer from the other directly, without using My Network Places. > >>> Type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: > > >>> \\computer > > >>> If that doesn't work either, open the LAN connection's properties and: > > >>> 1. Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing" and "Client for Microsoft > >>> Networks" are enabled. > > >>> 2. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" > Properties > Advanced > WINS, > >>> and make sure that "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected. > >>> -- > >>> Best Wishes, > >>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > >>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > >>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > >>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > >>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > >>>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > >> Sorry, > > >> If I use the run command (\\computer name) , both computers see each > >> other, but stall and eventually the "inaccessible error pops up > >> when I try to "view workgroup computers". > > >> Scott > > >Any more ideas? > > Scott, > > I have ideas, Scott. You have a lot of reading to do though. > > What you're describing sounds like a master browser conflict, possibly involving > a NetBT setting mismatch. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi... > > The browser subsystem (which is what lets you "see" other computers) is a lot of > fun to work with. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always...>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always... > > If your browsing changes depending upon which computer starts first, you have a > conflict there. Compare logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net > config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Look at > "browstat status" logs from each computer, and compare when you start the > computers in different orders too - you should see differences. Read this > article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download > browstat!): > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo... > > And what antivirus program do you have? Many antivirus programs include an > antiworm component that will block SMBs, and cause browser problems. Turning > off a firewall won't solve such a problem. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-eith...>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-eith... > > It's also possible that one computer has a corrupt LSP / Winsock stack. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer...>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer... > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - check / change the anti-virus setting "Internet Worm." This module is also a firewall like module.  |
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