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Netbios over TCP/IPI read on a tutorial that Node type=Broadcast would be the correct value for
a small LAN with no DNS and WINS server and for address resolution NetBios over TCP/IP must be explicitly enabled when connecting to a router since usually it is Microsoft independent. Indeed my D-Link DI-524 broadband router asks me nothing about NetBios, so I crossed all squares for enabling Netbios over TCP/IP on all PCs in my LAN, yet by keying ipconfig /all I don't see Netbios being quoted in none of them and Node type looks Mixed or Hybrid instead of Broadcast. Anyway I see that Netbios over TCP Helper service is active on all PCs. Any suggestions? il barbi In-line...
"il barbi" <angeieri.barbo***@ngi.it> wrote in message Correct.news:OJAyEhTMIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I read on a tutorial that Node type=Broadcast would be the correct value >for > a small LAN with no DNS and WINS server > and for address resolution NetBios The 'Default' setting is usually OK.> over TCP/IP must be explicitly enabled This will enable NETbios-over TCP/IP unless something else disables it. > when connecting to a router since Yes, Routers are OS-independent.> usually it is Microsoft independent. > Indeed my D-Link DI-524 broadband Indeed.> router asks me nothing about NetBios, > so I crossed all squares for enabling OK, no harm there.> Netbios over TCP/IP on all PCs in my LAN, > yet by keying ipconfig /all I Thats OK> don't see Netbios being quoted in none of them > and Node type looks Mixed or That is not uncommon, and is not a problem.> Hybrid instead of Broadcast. Mixed = try broadcast, then WINS ( if confgured ). Hybrid = try WINS ( if configured ) then broadcast. Since no WINS is configured, either should fall back to broadcast. You can change this by editing the registry. The registry location is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System \CurrentControlSet \Services \Netbt \Parameters Delete any of the two values NodeType and DhcpNodeType if they exist, forcing Windows to fall back to its default node type, as described below. Reboot. If no entry is present in the registry, then the node type will show as 'Unknown', and will default as follows: WINS server configured: Hybrid; No WINS server configured: broadcast. You can also set the NodeType as follows to force it: The possible values are: 1: Broadcast; 2: P-node ( P-to-P, or WINS-only ) 4: Mixed ( Broadcast then WINS ) 8: Hybrid ( WINS then broadcast ) > Anyway I see that Netbios over TCP Helper That's OK.> service is active on all PCs. > Any suggestions? No, Why?What actual problem do you have that you think is related to NetBIOS node type? -- Ron "Ron Lowe" <ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS> ha scritto nel messaggio the problem is that I can't connect wirelessly to the router from an Acer news:uNLqYGUMIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >cut< > > That's OK. > >> Any suggestions? > > No, Why? > What actual problem do you have that you think is related to NetBIOS node > type? > notebook running Windows Vista - it's a month i'm playing with configurations and testing... There are too many parameters to manage and I'm not a system engineer Lastly I discovered a list of problems for the coexistence of WinXP and Vista in a wireless network and one of these was concerned with disabling the broadcast flag which is forced in Vista, see Windows Knowledge Base N.928233 il barbi Show quote
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:33:01 +0100, "il barbi" <angeieri.barbo***@ngi.it> wrote: Lots of people who aren't systems engineers can manage the parameters, you>"Ron Lowe" <ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS> ha scritto nel messaggio >news:uNLqYGUMIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>cut< >> >> That's OK. >> >>> Any suggestions? >> >> No, Why? >> What actual problem do you have that you think is related to NetBIOS node >> type? >> >the problem is that I can't connect wirelessly to the router from an Acer >notebook running Windows Vista - it's a month i'm playing with >configurations and testing... >There are too many parameters to manage and I'm not a system engineer >Lastly I discovered a list of problems for the coexistence of WinXP and >Vista in a wireless network and one of these was concerned with disabling >the broadcast flag which is forced in Vista, see Windows Knowledge Base >N.928233 >il barbi probably can too if you focus your self. NetBIOS Node Type has nothing to do with WiFi connectivity. Node Type relates to name resolution - finding out the IP address of another computers - on LANs with no DNS server. Disabling the Broadcast flag is a solution for specific problems with computers running Windows Vista. With or without computers running Windows XP also on the LAN. If you've been playing with configurations for a month, maybe you don't need a notebook computer. What specific problems are you having? -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. "Chuck [MVP]" <n***@example.net> ha scritto nel messaggio I'm glad to hear that...:-)news:if7rk3p49q4no0n2gisbuob3a9fl3j5gg6@4ax.com... > > Lots of people who aren't systems engineers can manage the parameters, you > probably can too if you focus your self. > > I only wanted to say that I can't connect wirelessly in any way... so I just > If you've been playing with configurations for a month, maybe you don't > need a > notebook computer. What specific problems are you having? > began to read your valuable suggestions, one of which is the Broadcast flag problem. Indeed I'm not so able to locate the level of my malfunction - I can't even ping the router, it gives error 1231. I was able to connect the notebook (with Broadcom board) with another notebook running XP with a D-Link wireless board by means of an adhoc connection, so I think the Broadcom board works (even if I see 21 parameters in advanced board configuration...). In the contrary both wireless board can't connect to my D-Link router, so perhaps it is the wireless side of this router that doesn't work at low level. Do you know some tool for finding it? I include ipconfig /all (translated from Italian): IP Configuration of Windows Node type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid Routing IP enabled. . . . . . . . . : No Proxy WINS enabled . . . . . . . . : No LAN wireless board: Device status. . . . . . . . . . . . : disconnected DNS Suffix for connection: Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom network board 802.11g Physical address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-19-7E-2C-C5-67 DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : yes Authomatic configuration enabled: yes Ethernet board for connection to LAN: Device status. . . . . . . . . . . . : disconnected (I disconnect the Ethernet cable when testing the wireless connection) DNS Suffix for connection: Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce network controller Physical address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D3-55-30-6C DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : yes Authomatic configuration enabled: yes Tunneling device for connection to LAN *: Device status. . . . . . . . . . . . : disconnected DNS Suffix for connection: Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{CBEA9864-B603-4718-AD65-ABBB741F9225} Physical address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : no Authomatic configuration enabled: yes Tunneling device for connection to LAN *2: Device status. . . . . . . . . . . . : disconnected DNS Suffix for connection: Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{ED5973AF-F337-492D-9BDD-9273F4F194FE} Physical address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : no Authomatic configuration enabled: yes Predefined Gateway . . . . . . . . . : NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . . . . . : Deactivated Tunneling device for connection to LAN *6: Device status. . . . . . . . . . . . : disconnected DNS Suffix for connection: Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical address. . . . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : no Authomatic configuration enabled: yes Thanks for any suggestions il barbi Show quote
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:10:38 +0100, "il barbi" <angeieri.barbo***@ngi.it> wrote: I'd start with the Vista pre-SP update. WiFi is one item in the update.>"Chuck [MVP]" <n***@example.net> ha scritto nel messaggio >news:if7rk3p49q4no0n2gisbuob3a9fl3j5gg6@4ax.com... >> >> Lots of people who aren't systems engineers can manage the parameters, you >> probably can too if you focus your self. >> >I'm glad to hear that...:-) > >> >> If you've been playing with configurations for a month, maybe you don't >> need a >> notebook computer. What specific problems are you having? >> >I only wanted to say that I can't connect wirelessly in any way... so I just >began to read your valuable suggestions, one of which is the Broadcast flag >problem. Indeed I'm not so able to locate the level of my malfunction - I >can't even ping the router, it gives error 1231. I was able to connect the >notebook (with Broadcom board) with another notebook running XP with a >D-Link wireless board by means of an adhoc connection, so I think the >Broadcom board works (even if I see 21 parameters in advanced board >configuration...). In the contrary both wireless board can't connect to my >D-Link router, so perhaps it is the wireless side of this router that >doesn't work at low level. Do you know some tool for finding it? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html And maybe we should review the WiFi connectivity process. 1) The WiFi client connects to the radio on the WiFi access point (router). 2) The WiFi client authenticates to the access point. 3) The DHCP client requests settings from the DHCP server on the router. 4) The IP stack on the laptop establishes connectivity with the router, and with the LAN and WAN. Next, what WiFi client are you using? If not Microsoft client, make sure that it's certified for Vista, and that you have the most current release. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/driver-updates-from-microsoft-please.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/driver-updates-from-microsoft-please.html And make sure that you're running only 1 WiFi client. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html Did you check the access logs on the router, to see if there's any diagnostics about failure by the laptop? Or does the log maybe imply that the laptop is connecting (step 2)? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html Check the other known Vista connectivity issues. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html#Connectivity> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html#Connectivity Then, check for LSP / Winsock corruption, which will cause DHCP client problems, and the "Disconnected" notation in the ipconfig log. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. "Chuck [MVP]" <n***@example.net> ha scritto nel messaggio unfortunately when trying to install KB938979 and KB941649 it says they are news:fbpsk3tfjh9o5npqjp9u7egj1svnbvlrj5@4ax.com... > > I'd start with the Vista pre-SP update. WiFi is one item in the update. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/10/windows-vista-is-maturing.html > not applicable to my system... > And maybe we should review the WiFi connectivity process. how can I determine at what point the process breaks?> 1) The WiFi client connects to the radio on the WiFi access point > (router). > 2) The WiFi client authenticates to the access point. > 3) The DHCP client requests settings from the DHCP server on the router. > 4) The IP stack on the laptop establishes connectivity with the router, > and with > the LAN and WAN. > > Next, what WiFi client are you using? If not Microsoft client, make sure I'm using Microsoft Wifi client (Wlansvc) and it is the only one> that > it's certified for Vista, and that you have the most current release. > > Did you check the access logs on the router, to see if there's any The log on the router says 0 packets received, some thousand transmitted... > diagnostics > about failure by the laptop? Or does the log maybe imply that the laptop > is > connecting (step 2)? > ping error is 1231 > Check the other known Vista connectivity issues. this is the Broadcast flag problem, but I've checked with PStools Broadstat > command and leaved only one Master browser > Then, check for LSP / Winsock corruption, which will cause DHCP client from the text it seems they are only Internet problems> problems, > and the "Disconnected" notation in the ipconfig log. > Perhaps some trace utility showing data exchange at lowest level possible between router and Vista would be useful? il barbi |
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