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Author
15 Oct 2008 9:18 AM
Jonas_Bson
Hello,

We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines to
the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops has
novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with NW.

The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes 10 min
for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min and it
says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box comes
up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get any
replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.


If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.

I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error there.

Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....

Regards
Jonas

Author
15 Oct 2008 1:07 PM
Robert L. (MS-MVP)
I would check the DNS settings first. These search result may help too.
a.. Windows slow issues
      Slow to write file from win2k to NT 4 server Slow to logon windows
domain Slow to access the network database Slow to backup - it takes a
5MB/min to backup ...
      www.chicagotech.net/winslow.htm

a.. xp logon slow
      XP logon slow in child domain. Situation: The Company just created a
child domain for HR. XP computer logon takes over 5 minutes. They did check
these: ...
      www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy/xpslow1.htm



--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
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"Jonas_Bson" <Jonas_B***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1CB3898-E337-409B-90A1-B1B625498B6D@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines to
> the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops has
> novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with NW.
>
> The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes 10
> min
> for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min and
> it
> says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box
> comes
> up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
> login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get
> any
> replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.
>
>
> If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
> Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.
>
> I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error
> there.
>
> Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
> getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....
>
> Regards
> Jonas
Author
15 Oct 2008 5:11 PM
Jonas_Bson
Hello,

Thank you for your reply!

I've checked, double-checked and tripple checked dns settings and they are
correct, I've also tried all possible kind of DNS suffix settings.


What I find very strange is that the network does not seem to be started
until the login-prompt appears, it shouldnt take10 min to start the network.

If i start the computer without network card it still takes 10 min for
login-prompt to appear.

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"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> I would check the DNS settings first. These search result may help too.
> a.. Windows slow issues
>       Slow to write file from win2k to NT 4 server Slow to logon windows
> domain Slow to access the network database Slow to backup - it takes a
> 5MB/min to backup ...
>       www.chicagotech.net/winslow.htm
>
> a.. xp logon slow
>       XP logon slow in child domain. Situation: The Company just created a
> child domain for HR. XP computer logon takes over 5 minutes. They did check
> these: ...
>       www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy/xpslow1.htm
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Jonas_Bson" <Jonas_B***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1CB3898-E337-409B-90A1-B1B625498B6D@microsoft.com...
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines to
> > the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops has
> > novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with NW.
> >
> > The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes 10
> > min
> > for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min and
> > it
> > says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box
> > comes
> > up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
> > login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get
> > any
> > replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.
> >
> >
> > If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
> > Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.
> >
> > I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error
> > there.
> >
> > Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
> > getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....
> >
> > Regards
> > Jonas
>
>
Author
16 Oct 2008 12:11 AM
Robert L. (MS-MVP)
Have you tried safe mode?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
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"Jonas_Bson" <JonasB***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAA8A648-46CD-46AE-AA25-719AF80510D1@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your reply!
>
> I've checked, double-checked and tripple checked dns settings and they are
> correct, I've also tried all possible kind of DNS suffix settings.
>
>
> What I find very strange is that the network does not seem to be started
> until the login-prompt appears, it shouldnt take10 min to start the
> network.
>
> If i start the computer without network card it still takes 10 min for
> login-prompt to appear.
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> I would check the DNS settings first. These search result may help too.
>> a.. Windows slow issues
>>       Slow to write file from win2k to NT 4 server Slow to logon windows
>> domain Slow to access the network database Slow to backup - it takes a
>> 5MB/min to backup ...
>>       www.chicagotech.net/winslow.htm
>>
>> a.. xp logon slow
>>       XP logon slow in child domain. Situation: The Company just created
>> a
>> child domain for HR. XP computer logon takes over 5 minutes. They did
>> check
>> these: ...
>>       www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy/xpslow1.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Jonas_Bson" <Jonas_B***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C1CB3898-E337-409B-90A1-B1B625498B6D@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines
>> > to
>> > the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops
>> > has
>> > novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with
>> > NW.
>> >
>> > The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes
>> > 10
>> > min
>> > for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min
>> > and
>> > it
>> > says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box
>> > comes
>> > up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
>> > login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get
>> > any
>> > replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.
>> >
>> >
>> > If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
>> > Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.
>> >
>> > I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error
>> > there.
>> >
>> > Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
>> > getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Jonas
>>
>>
Author
16 Oct 2008 8:00 AM
Jonas_Bson
Tried safe mode with networking but still the exact same problem. 10 min time
until you get to login-prompt.

I've also tried to recreate the SID using sysinternals newsid but still same
problem.



Also tried to reset security settings using the guide @
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313222 but still the same problem.

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"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Have you tried safe mode?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Jonas_Bson" <JonasB***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAA8A648-46CD-46AE-AA25-719AF80510D1@microsoft.com...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you for your reply!
> >
> > I've checked, double-checked and tripple checked dns settings and they are
> > correct, I've also tried all possible kind of DNS suffix settings.
> >
> >
> > What I find very strange is that the network does not seem to be started
> > until the login-prompt appears, it shouldnt take10 min to start the
> > network.
> >
> > If i start the computer without network card it still takes 10 min for
> > login-prompt to appear.
> >
> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> I would check the DNS settings first. These search result may help too.
> >> a.. Windows slow issues
> >>       Slow to write file from win2k to NT 4 server Slow to logon windows
> >> domain Slow to access the network database Slow to backup - it takes a
> >> 5MB/min to backup ...
> >>       www.chicagotech.net/winslow.htm
> >>
> >> a.. xp logon slow
> >>       XP logon slow in child domain. Situation: The Company just created
> >> a
> >> child domain for HR. XP computer logon takes over 5 minutes. They did
> >> check
> >> these: ...
> >>       www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy/xpslow1.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >> "Jonas_Bson" <Jonas_B***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C1CB3898-E337-409B-90A1-B1B625498B6D@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines
> >> > to
> >> > the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops
> >> > has
> >> > novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with
> >> > NW.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes
> >> > 10
> >> > min
> >> > for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min
> >> > and
> >> > it
> >> > says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box
> >> > comes
> >> > up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
> >> > login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get
> >> > any
> >> > replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
> >> > Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.
> >> >
> >> > I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error
> >> > there.
> >> >
> >> > Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
> >> > getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Jonas
> >>
> >>
>
>
Author
16 Oct 2008 8:09 AM
Jonas_Bson
Forgot to mention:

I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
before login prompt!

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"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> Tried safe mode with networking but still the exact same problem. 10 min time
> until you get to login-prompt.
>
> I've also tried to recreate the SID using sysinternals newsid but still same
> problem.
>
>
>
> Also tried to reset security settings using the guide @
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313222 but still the same problem.
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Have you tried safe mode?
> >
> > --
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Jonas_Bson" <JonasB***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:BAA8A648-46CD-46AE-AA25-719AF80510D1@microsoft.com...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your reply!
> > >
> > > I've checked, double-checked and tripple checked dns settings and they are
> > > correct, I've also tried all possible kind of DNS suffix settings.
> > >
> > >
> > > What I find very strange is that the network does not seem to be started
> > > until the login-prompt appears, it shouldnt take10 min to start the
> > > network.
> > >
> > > If i start the computer without network card it still takes 10 min for
> > > login-prompt to appear.
> > >
> > > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would check the DNS settings first. These search result may help too.
> > >> a.. Windows slow issues
> > >>       Slow to write file from win2k to NT 4 server Slow to logon windows
> > >> domain Slow to access the network database Slow to backup - it takes a
> > >> 5MB/min to backup ...
> > >>       www.chicagotech.net/winslow.htm
> > >>
> > >> a.. xp logon slow
> > >>       XP logon slow in child domain. Situation: The Company just created
> > >> a
> > >> child domain for HR. XP computer logon takes over 5 minutes. They did
> > >> check
> > >> these: ...
> > >>       www.howtonetworking.com/casestudy/xpslow1.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > >> "Jonas_Bson" <Jonas_B***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:C1CB3898-E337-409B-90A1-B1B625498B6D@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > We are currently setting up an AD and im on my way to join our machines
> > >> > to
> > >> > the AD. Today we have a netware e-Dir so all of our laptops/desktops
> > >> > has
> > >> > novell components installed on them so that they can authenticate with
> > >> > NW.
> > >> >
> > >> > The problem is that when I join a machine to our new AD it then takes
> > >> > 10
> > >> > min
> > >> > for the computer to start the network when booting up. I wait 2-3 min
> > >> > and
> > >> > it
> > >> > says "Windows is starting up..." then when the novell "ctr+alt+del"-box
> > >> > comes
> > >> > up and I press ctrl+alt+del it takes another 5-7 mins before the actual
> > >> > login-box is shown. Meanwhile If i try to ping the machine I do not get
> > >> > any
> > >> > replies. I start getting replies when the login box is shown.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > If i setup a fresh install of WinXP sp2 on a box and set the exact same
> > >> > Ip/dns settings I have no problem at all.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've turend on userevn-debug loggin but can't find any specific error
> > >> > there.
> > >> >
> > >> > Can someone please point me in some direction where I should look. I'm
> > >> > getting very frustated with this problem now. :(....
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards
> > >> > Jonas
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
Author
16 Oct 2008 9:07 AM
Anteaus
Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.

If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!

Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.

http://mylogon.net/support/psave

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"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> Forgot to mention:
>
> I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> before login prompt!
>
> > >
Author
16 Oct 2008 11:32 AM
Jonas_Bson
Hello,

The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
powersave option.

/Joans

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"Anteaus" wrote:

> Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
>
> If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
>
> Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
>
> http://mylogon.net/support/psave
>
> "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
>
> > Forgot to mention:
> >
> > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > before login prompt!
> >
> > > >
Author
16 Oct 2008 3:18 PM
Jonas_Bson
If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..

If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
mins startup time.

/Jonas

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"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> powersave option.
>
> /Joans
>
> "Anteaus" wrote:
>
> > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> >
> > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> >
> > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> >
> > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> >
> > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> >
> > > Forgot to mention:
> > >
> > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > before login prompt!
> > >
> > > > >
Author
16 Oct 2008 8:20 PM
Jonas_Bson
When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log

"
10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
WinStatus = 3
10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
1717
10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
WinStatus = 3
10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
1717
10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
"

So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.

/Jonas

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"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
>
> If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> mins startup time.
>
> /Jonas
>
> "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > powersave option.
> >
> > /Joans
> >
> > "Anteaus" wrote:
> >
> > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > >
> > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > >
> > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > >
> > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > >
> > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > before login prompt!
> > > >
> > > > > >
Author
10 Dec 2008 1:31 PM
Brian
I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
>
> "
> 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> WinStatus = 3
> 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> 1717
> 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> WinStatus = 3
> 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> 1717
> 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> "
>
> So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
>
> /Jonas
>
> "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
>
> > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> >
> > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > mins startup time.
> >
> > /Jonas
> >
> > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > powersave option.
> > >
> > > /Joans
> > >
> > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > >
> > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > >
> > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > >
> > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > >
> > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > >
> > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
Author
10 Dec 2008 2:03 PM
Jonas_Bson
Hello,

MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
and
MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop

Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
"HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"



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"Brian" wrote:

> I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
> "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
>
> > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> >
> > "
> > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > WinStatus = 3
> > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > 1717
> > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > WinStatus = 3
> > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > 1717
> > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > "
> >
> > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> >
> > /Jonas
> >
> > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> >
> > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > >
> > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > mins startup time.
> > >
> > > /Jonas
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > powersave option.
> > > >
> > > > /Joans
> > > >
> > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
Author
10 Dec 2008 2:52 PM
Brian
Wow, thanks!

I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.

Thanks again,
Brian

Show quoteHide quote
"Jonas_Bson" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> and
> MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
>
> Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
>
>
>
> "Brian" wrote:
>
> > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> >
> > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> >
> > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > >
> > > "
> > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > WinStatus = 3
> > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > 1717
> > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > WinStatus = 3
> > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > 1717
> > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > "
> > >
> > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > >
> > > /Jonas
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > >
> > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > mins startup time.
> > > >
> > > > /Jonas
> > > >
> > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > powersave option.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Joans
> > > > >
> > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
Author
11 Dec 2008 6:26 AM
Grazer
Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?

Regards,
Graham

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"Brian" wrote:

> Wow, thanks!
>
> I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
>
> Thanks again,
> Brian
>
> "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > and
> > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> >
> > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian" wrote:
> >
> > > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > 1717
> > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > 1717
> > > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > > >
> > > > /Jonas
> > > >
> > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > > >
> > > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > > mins startup time.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Jonas
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > > powersave option.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Joans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
Author
11 Dec 2008 7:47 AM
Brian
Yes, it worked on the test box. I'm still gettting error 5703 in the netlogon
log but it's no longer timing out for 10 minutes. We can at least start
adding the old ibm workstations to the domain.

/Brian

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"Grazer" wrote:

> Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?
>
> Regards,
> Graham
>
> "Brian" wrote:
>
> > Wow, thanks!
> >
> > I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> > working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Brian
> >
> > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > and
> > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > >
> > > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > > > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > > > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > > > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > > > >
> > > > > "
> > > > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > 1717
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > 1717
> > > > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > > > "
> > > > >
> > > > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Jonas
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > > > mins startup time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > > > powersave option.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /Joans
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
Author
11 Dec 2008 12:16 PM
grazer
OK - have looked for those values in the registry and do not have them on our
machines. Are these the only values suggested by Microsoft which need fixed?

Many thanks,

Graham

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"Brian" wrote:

> Yes, it worked on the test box. I'm still gettting error 5703 in the netlogon
> log but it's no longer timing out for 10 minutes. We can at least start
> adding the old ibm workstations to the domain.
>
> /Brian
>
> "Grazer" wrote:
>
> > Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Graham
> >
> > "Brian" wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, thanks!
> > >
> > > I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> > > working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > > > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > > > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > and
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > >
> > > > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > > > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > > > > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > > > > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > > > > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > > > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > > > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > > > > mins startup time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > > > > powersave option.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /Joans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
Author
18 Dec 2008 6:46 PM
Wes Kroesbergen
We had a similar problem on our network. We also have the same error messages
in our netlogon debug file, so I'm not sure that's the cause. We found that
our problem was related to the Roxio services installed with BlackBerry
Desktop Manager 4.6 (possibly earlier versions, but 4.6 is what we were
using). After disabling the services below, clients were back to a
respectable login period again.
Services installed by BDM affecting usage:
LiveShare P2P Service
Roxio Hard Drive Watcher 9
Roxio UPnP Renderer 9
Roxio UPnP Server 9
RoxMediaDB9

Do you have BDM installed? Are these services running? If so, try disabling
them and see what happens.
Wes Kroesbergen
http://www.kroesbergens.com

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"Brian" wrote:

> Yes, it worked on the test box. I'm still gettting error 5703 in the netlogon
> log but it's no longer timing out for 10 minutes. We can at least start
> adding the old ibm workstations to the domain.
>
> /Brian
>
> "Grazer" wrote:
>
> > Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Graham
> >
> > "Brian" wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, thanks!
> > >
> > > I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> > > working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > > > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > > > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > and
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > >
> > > > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > > > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > > > > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > > > > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > > > > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > > > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > > > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > > > > mins startup time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > > > > powersave option.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /Joans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
Author
18 Dec 2008 6:48 PM
Wes Kroesbergen
We had a similar problem on our network. We also have the same error messages
in our netlogon debug file, so I'm not sure that's the cause. We found that
our problem was related to the Roxio services installed with BlackBerry
Desktop Manager 4.6 (possibly earlier versions, but 4.6 is what we were
using). After disabling the services below, clients were back to a
respectable login period again.
Services installed by BDM affecting usage:
LiveShare P2P Service
Roxio Hard Drive Watcher 9
Roxio UPnP Renderer 9
Roxio UPnP Server 9
RoxMediaDB9

Do you have BDM installed? Are these services running? If so, try disabling
them and see what happens.
Wes Kroesbergen
http://www.kroesbergens.com

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"Brian" wrote:

> Yes, it worked on the test box. I'm still gettting error 5703 in the netlogon
> log but it's no longer timing out for 10 minutes. We can at least start
> adding the old ibm workstations to the domain.
>
> /Brian
>
> "Grazer" wrote:
>
> > Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Graham
> >
> > "Brian" wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, thanks!
> > >
> > > I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> > > working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > > > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > > > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > and
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > >
> > > > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > > > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I came across your post after searching around for a solution to Event ID
> > > > > 5703. We too are having the exact same problem. Did you manage to find a
> > > > > solution? I notice that this only seems to affect our IBM workstations that
> > > > > had their OS preinstalled. Our other workstations are working smoothly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i turned on netlogon logging i found this in netlogon.log
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > 10/16 21:14:46 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 330290)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MAILSLOT] Received PNP opcode 0x2 on transport:
> > > > > > \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E4F60F52-CA75-4563-8E2B-8262D62F92CD}
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:16 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error in reading mailslot message from browser.
> > > > > > WinStatus = 3
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [MISC] Eventlog: 5703 (2) 3 00000003   ....
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:18 [CRITICAL] Error writing this event in the eventlog, Status =
> > > > > > 1717
> > > > > > 10/16 21:15:19 [MAILSLOT] Going to wait on mailslot. (Timeout: 298284)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Group Policy is not defined for Netlogon
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT] Following are the effective values after parsing
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Sysvol = C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\SYSVOL
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    Scripts = (null)
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    SiteName (0) = Default-First-Site-Name
> > > > > > 10/16 21:25:24 [INIT]    RpcDacl = (null)
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that seems to be the problem but I have no idea how to solve it. googling
> > > > > > on thoose error messages does not bring up any good results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I disable netlogn the machine boots fast..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If i uninstall "client for microsoft network" it also boots fast.. anyone
> > > > > > > has any good tips/ideas on how to troubleshoot netlogon... I've tried
> > > > > > > uninstalling and reinstalling it but when It's reinstalled it still is 10
> > > > > > > mins startup time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /Jonas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The PC's im currently labbing with are desktop so they dont have the
> > > > > > > > powersave option.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /Joans
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Anteaus" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Firstly, it is unusual to join an AD domain with Netware components installed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If this is the Microsoft Netwarel Client then it shoudl be Ok, if it's the
> > > > > > > > > Novell proprietary Client then I would expect there to be problems!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Second, check for faulty powersave options on the LAN card. These are
> > > > > > > > > responsible for a whole gamut of network issues.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://mylogon.net/support/psave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Forgot to mention:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also tried Safe Mode without networking and still 10min waiting time
> > > > > > > > > > before login prompt!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
Author
18 Dec 2008 6:50 PM
Wes Kroesbergen
We had a similar problem on our network. We also have the same error messages
in our netlogon debug file, so I'm not sure that's the cause. We found that
our problem was related to the Roxio services installed with BlackBerry
Desktop Manager 4.6 (possibly earlier versions, but 4.6 is what we were
using). After disabling the services below, clients were back to a
respectable login period again.
Services installed by BDM affecting usage:
LiveShare P2P Service
Roxio Hard Drive Watcher 9
Roxio UPnP Renderer 9
Roxio UPnP Server 9
RoxMediaDB9

Do you have BDM installed? Are these services running? If so, try disabling
them and see what happens.
Wes Kroesbergen
http://www.kroesbergens.com

Show quoteHide quote
"Brian" wrote:

> Yes, it worked on the test box. I'm still gettting error 5703 in the netlogon
> log but it's no longer timing out for 10 minutes. We can at least start
> adding the old ibm workstations to the domain.
>
> /Brian
>
> "Grazer" wrote:
>
> > Brian - was your fix the same as described by Jonas_Bson?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Graham
> >
> > "Brian" wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, thanks!
> > >
> > > I just happened to open a case with Microsoft too. Everything seems to be
> > > working now. No more waiting 10minutes to log into the domain.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jonas_Bson" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > MS-support did help us with our problem after a while. The problem we had
> > > > was that we where missing 4 reg-values for the local system account hive and
> > > > one other hive. The keys that was missing was:
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MUILanguagePending under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > and
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > > MultiUILanguageID under HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Desktop
> > > >
> > > > Theese String-keys has to be the same as the corresponding keys under
> > > > "HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Desktop\"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >