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How to connect laptop to both home (workgroup) and office (domain) networks?I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a
docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so good! I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is based on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully received! -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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"Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message Create an account name / password on all your home machinesnews:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a > docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the > Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so > good! > > I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get > access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is based > on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a > common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure > can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully > received! > > -- > #################### > ## PH, London > #################### > > that agrees with the account name / password in the office. You should then be able to access all shared resources on the home network. -- latest at the bottom here...
Show quote "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.***@fly.com> wrote in message I thought the home machines have to share a common workgroup, which the news:%23dUC6wmSFHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > "Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message > news:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a >> docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the >> Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so >> good! >> >> I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and >> get >> access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is > based >> on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a >> common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure >> can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully >> received! >> >> -- >> #################### >> ## PH, London >> #################### >> >> > > Create an account name / password on all your home machines > that agrees with the account name / password in the office. You > should then be able to access all shared resources on the home > network. > > laptop can't do? -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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"Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message Workgroups only matter when it comes to visibility of sharednews:Oiz7s2vSFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > -- latest at the bottom here... > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.***@fly.com> wrote in message > news:%23dUC6wmSFHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > > > "Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message > > news:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > >> I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a > >> docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the > >> Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so > >> good! > >> > >> I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and > >> get > >> access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is > > based > >> on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a > >> common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure > >> can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully > >> received! > >> > >> -- > >> #################### > >> ## PH, London > >> #################### > >> > >> > > > > Create an account name / password on all your home machines > > that agrees with the account name / password in the office. You > > should then be able to access all shared resources on the home > > network. > > > > > > I thought the home machines have to share a common workgroup, which the > laptop can't do? network resources in "Network Neighbourhood". Workgroup names are irrelevant when it comes to access permissions - it's the account names and passwords that count. To connect to a shared folder in a different workgroup, spell out its full name, either in Explorer or at the Command Prompt: net use S: \\SomePC\SomeShare or, on a Win2000/XP PC: net use S: \\192.168.0.15\SomeShare
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"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.***@fly.com> wrote in message Is that because XP doesn't have NetBIOS?news:eqvaZDwSFHA.2256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Workgroups only matter when it comes to visibility of shared > network resources in "Network Neighbourhood". Workgroup > names are irrelevant when it comes to access permissions - it's > the account names and passwords that count. > > To connect to a shared folder in a different workgroup, spell > out its full name, either in Explorer or at the Command Prompt: > > net use S: \\SomePC\SomeShare > > or, on a Win2000/XP PC: > > net use S: \\192.168.0.15\SomeShare > > -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.***@fly.com> wrote in message By the way - I forgot to say Thanks!news:eqvaZDwSFHA.2256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Workgroups only matter when it comes to visibility of shared > network resources in "Network Neighbourhood". Workgroup > names are irrelevant when it comes to access permissions - it's > the account names and passwords that count. > > To connect to a shared folder in a different workgroup, spell > out its full name, either in Explorer or at the Command Prompt: > > net use S: \\SomePC\SomeShare > > or, on a Win2000/XP PC: > > net use S: \\192.168.0.15\SomeShare > Show quote :-) -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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"Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message I don't have the in-depth knowledge on protocols to answernews:%23xyChsZTFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.***@fly.com> wrote in message > news:eqvaZDwSFHA.2256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > Workgroups only matter when it comes to visibility of shared > > network resources in "Network Neighbourhood". Workgroup > > names are irrelevant when it comes to access permissions - it's > > the account names and passwords that count. > > > > To connect to a shared folder in a different workgroup, spell > > out its full name, either in Explorer or at the Command Prompt: > > > > net use S: \\SomePC\SomeShare > > > > or, on a Win2000/XP PC: > > > > net use S: \\192.168.0.15\SomeShare > > > > Is that because XP doesn't have NetBIOS? your question with any degree of confidence. > By the way - I forgot to say Thanks! You're welcome.> :-)
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:07:51 +0100, "Philip Herlihy" <*email_address_deleted*> Philip,wrote: >I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a >docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the >Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so >good! > >I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get >access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is based >on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a >common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure >can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully >received! What operating system is on the computer(s) at home - XP Home? XP Pro? Other? This makes a difference. The AD membership of the laptop shouldn't though. Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. If you're able to connect the laptop to your home network, and login to the laptop, you should be able to find the shared printer etc in Network Neighborhood (My Network Places) - Entire Network - Microsoft Windows Network. But you do have to make authentication on the laptop compatible with the other computer. On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to "Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run - "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without entering a new password. Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access "C:\Program Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My Documents". All of those folders require individual user, or administrator access, and Guest access gives you neither. On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment, on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the network". Make sure Guest is not in the list. Look at "Access this computer from the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list. Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows: <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en> -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net.
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"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message Thank, Chuck - will study in detail later. At home two machines are XP Pro news:pkjs61tqes761fm2qq10etkf2cfv0o5nii@4ax.com... > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:07:51 +0100, "Philip Herlihy" > <*email_address_deleted*> > wrote: > >>I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a >>docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the >>Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so >>good! >> >>I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get >>access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is >>based >>on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a >>common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure >>can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully >>received! > > Philip, > > What operating system is on the computer(s) at home - XP Home? XP Pro? > Other? > This makes a difference. The AD membership of the laptop shouldn't > though. > > Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third > party)? If > so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations > are a > very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. > > If you're able to connect the laptop to your home network, and login to > the > laptop, you should be able to find the shared printer etc in Network > Neighborhood (My Network Places) - Entire Network - Microsoft Windows > Network. > > But you do have to make authentication on the laptop compatible with the > other > computer. > > On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control > Panel - > Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With > XP Pro, > you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer. > > On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control > Panel - > Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at > "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to > "Classic - > local users authenticate as themselves". > > On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to > "Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type > "net > user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and > use a > common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, > give it > an identical, non-blank password on all computers. > > On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that > the > Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - > Run - > "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. > Ensure > that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run - "control > userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without > entering a > new password. > > Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access > "C:\Program > Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My > Documents". All of those folders require individual user, or > administrator > access, and Guest access gives you neither. > > On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local > Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights > Assignment, > on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the > network". Make sure Guest is not in the list. Look at "Access this > computer > from the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list. > > Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third > party)? If > so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations > are a > very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. > > More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en> > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck and one is Win2K. There may be a W98 machine involved, but that's less critical. -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message Thanks - I'm really grateful for the time you've taken to spell out these news:pkjs61tqes761fm2qq10etkf2cfv0o5nii@4ax.com... > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:07:51 +0100, "Philip Herlihy" > <*email_address_deleted*> > wrote: > >>I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a >>docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the >>Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so >>good! >> >>I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get >>access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is >>based >>on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a >>common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure >>can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully >>received! > > Philip, > > What operating system is on the computer(s) at home - XP Home? XP Pro? > Other? > This makes a difference. The AD membership of the laptop shouldn't > though. > > Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third > party)? If > so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations > are a > very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. > > If you're able to connect the laptop to your home network, and login to > the > laptop, you should be able to find the shared printer etc in Network > Neighborhood (My Network Places) - Entire Network - Microsoft Windows > Network. > > But you do have to make authentication on the laptop compatible with the > other > computer. > > On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control > Panel - > Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With > XP Pro, > you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer. > > On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control > Panel - > Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at > "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to > "Classic - > local users authenticate as themselves". > > On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to > "Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type > "net > user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and > use a > common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, > give it > an identical, non-blank password on all computers. > > On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that > the > Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - > Run - > "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. > Ensure > that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run - "control > userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without > entering a > new password. > > Remember, with Simple File Sharing, you'll not be able to access > "C:\Program > Files", "C:\Windows", or any of the profile related folders such as "My > Documents". All of those folders require individual user, or > administrator > access, and Guest access gives you neither. > > On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local > Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights > Assignment, > on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the > network". Make sure Guest is not in the list. Look at "Access this > computer > from the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list. > > Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third > party)? If > so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations > are a > very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems. > > More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en> > configuration options (mostly new to me!). -- #################### ## PH, London #################### this may help. quoted from http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How can I share files between workgroup computer and domain/workgroup computer? I have a home wireless network and share files and a printer between two computers. I also use Win 2000/XP laptop at work with domain network. How can I share files between these computers at home? A: Deepening on your network setup, you may 1) Logon local laptop using the same logon id and password on both machine. 2) change workgroup name to match win2000 domain and the laptop needs to install at home first ad then join the domain . 3) without changing the workgroup name and logon ID, just enable guest account in win 2000/XP. 4) If you are running XP, enable Simple File Sharing. 5) logon domain user on the domain laptop (even the workgroup is different), use command net use \\workgroupcomputer /user:administrator, (here administrator is workgroup computer local administrator), the enter workgroup computer administrator password. You should be able to access the workgroup resources. Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. I recommend Brinkster for web hosting! "Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message news:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so good! I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is based on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully received! -- #################### ## PH, London #################### Thanks, Bob - I'll study in detail later. (Late for the office!)
-- #################### ## PH, London #################### "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <nore***@hotmail.com> wrote in message this may help. quoted from http://www.ChicagoTech.netnews:OJdB2zmSFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... How can I share files between workgroup computer and domain/workgroup computer? I have a home wireless network and share files and a printer between two computers. I also use Win 2000/XP laptop at work with domain network. How can I share files between these computers at home? A: Deepening on your network setup, you may 1) Logon local laptop using the same logon id and password on both machine. 2) change workgroup name to match win2000 domain and the laptop needs to install at home first ad then join the domain . 3) without changing the workgroup name and logon ID, just enable guest account in win 2000/XP. 4) If you are running XP, enable Simple File Sharing. 5) logon domain user on the domain laptop (even the workgroup is different), use command net use \\workgroupcomputer /user:administrator, (here administrator is workgroup computer local administrator), the enter workgroup computer administrator password. You should be able to access the workgroup resources. Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. I recommend Brinkster for web hosting! "Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via anews:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so good! I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is based on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use a common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully received! -- #################### ## PH, London #################### Thanks Pegasus, Chuck & Bob, I'm grateful for your time and advice.
I've been playing around with all these issues and I'm at least understanding them - I think! Unfortunately the laptop isn't currently here (!) so there's still some guesswork to live with. One question: I'll also need this to work when I'm not around, and I'm concerned that a changed DHCP license on the wireless net at home may mean the shares (folders, printer) won't be valid anymore. How can I make it all reliable? If I change the workgroup name to match the domain will the home shares be visible in "My Network Places"? -- Show quote#################### ## PH, London #################### "Philip Herlihy" <foof8***@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message news:OoNBWlmSFHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >I have a laptop running XP Pro. I connect to the office network (via a >docking station with Ethernet connection). At home I can connect to the >Internet via a wireless PCMCIA card linking to an ADSL modem. So far so >good! > > I want to be able to share files at home as well as at the office, and get > access to a printer on a machine at home. As the office connection is > based on an Active Directory domain login (Win2K server), I can't just use > a common workgroup name. I bet there's a neat solution to this but I sure > can't figure out what it would be. Any advice, references, gratefully > received! > > -- > #################### > ## PH, London > #################### >
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:50:34 +0100, "Philip Herlihy" <*email_address_deleted*> Philip,wrote: >Thanks Pegasus, Chuck & Bob, I'm grateful for your time and advice. > >I've been playing around with all these issues and I'm at least >understanding them - I think! Unfortunately the laptop isn't currently here >(!) so there's still some guesswork to live with. > >One question: I'll also need this to work when I'm not around, and I'm >concerned that a changed DHCP license on the wireless net at home may mean >the shares (folders, printer) won't be valid anymore. How can I make it all >reliable? If I change the workgroup name to match the domain will the home >shares be visible in "My Network Places"? With a peer-peer relationship between client and server, you authenticate by local userid on the server. Assuming that the client (computer you login to locally) can access the server (computer you're accessing remotely), and that you have the right authentication (Guest or non-Guest, with passwords properly synched - as outlined above), a changed DHCP License (ie ip settings) won't matter. -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net.
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"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message Thanks again for your patient help!news:cao771ddgje9msk09grp5ssic547nbp01h@4ax.com... > With a peer-peer relationship between client and server, you authenticate > by > local userid on the server. Assuming that the client (computer you login > to > locally) can access the server (computer you're accessing remotely), and > that > you have the right authentication (Guest or non-Guest, with passwords > properly > synched - as outlined above), a changed DHCP License (ie ip settings) > won't > matter. > -- #################### ## PH, London ####################
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On Mon, 2 May 2005 15:30:47 +0100, "Philip Herlihy" <*email_address_deleted*> YW, Philip. Thanks for the feedback!wrote: >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:cao771ddgje9msk09grp5ssic547nbp01h@4ax.com... >> With a peer-peer relationship between client and server, you authenticate >> by >> local userid on the server. Assuming that the client (computer you login >> to >> locally) can access the server (computer you're accessing remotely), and >> that >> you have the right authentication (Guest or non-Guest, with passwords >> properly >> synched - as outlined above), a changed DHCP License (ie ip settings) >> won't >> matter. >> > >Thanks again for your patient help! -- Cheers, Chuck http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net.  |
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