"Els" wrote:

> I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for both
> but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> me. thank you

"vinc_sixx" wrote:

> Els,
>
> As far as I know it's not possible. I use a Linksys router and can share
> files, printers, and the Internet for two computers wirelesly. One is hard
> wirde and the other has a wireless NIC. For your situation if security on
> your network is not an issue then a hub will do, if however, security is an
> issue then I would get a router with a built-in firewall.
> Good luck
>
> "Els" wrote:
>
> > I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for both
> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> > me. thank you

"Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for
> both
> but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> me. thank you

"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> What device connects both computers to the Internet?
>
> --
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>
>
> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A3C1DDD-1969-46D3-8125-25DDA0711599@microsoft.com...
> >I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for
> > both
> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> > me. thank you
>
>
>

"Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:068D299B-5865-4867-9547-A0C26068DB79@microsoft.com...
> one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
> directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.
>
> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>
>> What device connects both computers to the Internet?
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]  rghar***@gmail.com
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * for the benefit of all.  Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2A3C1DDD-1969-46D3-8125-25DDA0711599@microsoft.com...
>> >I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to
>> >share
>> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for
>> > both
>> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
>> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have
>> > both
>> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so
>> > many
>> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could
>> > give
>> > me. thank you
>>
>>
>>

"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> Ah - what you are trying to set up is "Internet Connection Sharing" and is
> indeed possible, yoiu would need to check the cable between the two
> computers and make sure that it's a crossover cable and not a regular
> network cable.
>
> If (or once) they are connected with a crossover cable, running the Network
> Setup Wizard on the computer that connects to the Internet and creating the
> setup diskette to run on the second computer should sort things out.
>
> However, I have to agree with Bob - ICS is not the most desirable way to set
> this network up and generally is more trouble to maintain than it is worth.
> A small and inexpensive router connected to the internet modem and used to
> connect both computers will make the network much safer and more easily
> maintained.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]  rghar***@gmail.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all.  Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:068D299B-5865-4867-9547-A0C26068DB79@microsoft.com...
> > one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
> > directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.
> >
> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >
> >> What device connects both computers to the Internet?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]  rghar***@gmail.com
> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> >> * for the benefit of all.  Private mail is usually not replied to.
> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2A3C1DDD-1969-46D3-8125-25DDA0711599@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to
> >> >share
> >> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for
> >> > both
> >> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> >> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have
> >> > both
> >> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so
> >> > many
> >> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could
> >> > give
> >> > me. thank you
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you Richard - I will unpacked the netgear router and preceed with
> setting up the "real" network.  Thank you for responding to my problem.
>
> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>
>> Ah - what you are trying to set up is "Internet Connection Sharing" and
>> is
>> indeed possible, yoiu would need to check the cable between the two
>> computers and make sure that it's a crossover cable and not a regular
>> network cable.
>>
>> If (or once) they are connected with a crossover cable, running the
>> Network
>> Setup Wizard on the computer that connects to the Internet and creating
>> the
>> setup diskette to run on the second computer should sort things out.
>>
>> However, I have to agree with Bob - ICS is not the most desirable way to
>> set
>> this network up and generally is more trouble to maintain than it is
>> worth.
>> A small and inexpensive router connected to the internet modem and used
>> to
>> connect both computers will make the network much safer and more easily
>> maintained.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]  rghar***@gmail.com
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * for the benefit of all.  Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:068D299B-5865-4867-9547-A0C26068DB79@microsoft.com...
>> > one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
>> > directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.
>> >
>> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What device connects both computers to the Internet?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]  rghar***@gmail.com
>> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> >> * for the benefit of all.  Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Els" <E**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2A3C1DDD-1969-46D3-8125-25DDA0711599@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to
>> >> >share
>> >> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access
>> >> > for
>> >> > both
>> >> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both
>> >> > have
>> >> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have
>> >> > both
>> >> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so
>> >> > many
>> >> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you
>> >> > could
>> >> > give
>> >> > me. thank you
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

"Els" wrote:

> I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for both
> but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> me. thank you

"Bob Campbell" wrote:

> Yes, it is possible, but I wouldn't recommend it. It is a very poor man's way
> to connect to the Internet. I would worry too much about the insecurity of
> doing it. Even if (when) I have only one computer (like in a hotel), I worry
> about being on the Internet without a router.
>
> So I (strongly) recommend buying a router. Not just a hub or switch, but a
> router. A typical router (e.g. Linksys, NetGear), is also a switch. A router
> is a firewall. You can access the Internet, but it is very difficult for
> others (even your ISP) on the Internet to get to your computers. They can
> only "see" as far as your router.
>
> With a router (switch), you don't need to turn on both computers to access
> the Internet. You plug your modem into the router (into the WAN connector),
> and there are usually 4 ports to plug up to 4 computers into the router.
>
> Each computer (independently) accesses the Internet, through the router. The
> router is also a little DHCP server giving you a local area network (LAN),
> with your own local set of IP addresses, such as 192.168.1.100,
> 192.168.1.101, etc. The router from your "side" (inside), will have an
> address like 192.168.1.1, which you can put in Internet Explorer, which lets
> you set up the router.
>
> You pretty much just plug the Cat5 cables into the router and computers (but
> not directly between the computers). Now you can access the Internet, and/or
> access each other computer, at the same time.
>
> On each computer, in My Computer, Local Disk (C:), right click and select
> Sharing and Security. In the middle block, share your drive C, use share name
> C. You can also just share particular folders if you want.
>
> On the other computer, you can Map a Network Drive to the first computer,
> and vice versa. Pick any letter, and in the folder box, put \\192.168.1.101\C
> or \\192.168.1.100\C, as appropriate.
>
> HTH.
>
> --
> The Software Tailor
> Las Vegas USA
>
>
> "Els" wrote:
>
> > I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition.  I am trying to share
> > files and internet access between the two.  I have internet access for both
> > but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking.  Both have
> > unique names and the workgroup is the same.  Is it possible to have both
> > internet and file sharing without a hub or router?  I have tried so many
> > times -I don't know what else to do.  I appreciate any help you could give
> > me. thank you