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5 Aug 2006 5:47 AM
jaygreg
The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows XP HE,
a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched operating
systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network.
That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read
someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a response
when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I
may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I
gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match
the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful
because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with the
name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither of
the other two machines can see the XP machine.

When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default Gateway
info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by itself
with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off
from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default
gateway address. The XP is different.

Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I did
but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while recording
the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply
designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the
XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't
fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups
for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.

Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.

Author
5 Aug 2006 7:37 AM
Kiran Kumar
if the xp machine can talk to both win98 95 machine then Check for firewall
settings on the xp machine which is preventing other mahines to communicate.
--
All is well when u''''r mind is well


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"jaygreg" wrote:

> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows XP HE,
> a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched operating
> systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network.
> That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read
> someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a response
> when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I
> may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I
> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
> workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match
> the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful
> because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with the
> name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither of
> the other two machines can see the XP machine.
>
> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default Gateway
> info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by itself
> with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off
> from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default
> gateway address. The XP is different.
>
> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I did
> but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while recording
> the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply
> designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the
> XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't
> fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups
> for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
>
> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
>
>
>
Author
5 Aug 2006 1:33 PM
jaygreg
Sorry, Kiran. I got so wrapped up in that IP Address difference I forgot to
make it clear that the XP failed the ping test; timed out. It can't ping the
other two and the other two can't ping it. What's this mean?

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"Kiran Kumar" <KiranKu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> if the xp machine can talk to both win98 95 machine then Check for
firewall
> settings on the xp machine which is preventing other mahines to
communicate.
> --
> All is well when u''''r mind is well
>
>
> "jaygreg" wrote:
>
> > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows XP
HE,
> > a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched
operating
> > systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network.
> > That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read
> > someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a
response
> > when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine.
I
> > may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat
(I
> > gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember
a
> > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to
match
> > the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful
> > because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with
the
> > name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither
of
> > the other two machines can see the XP machine.
> >
> > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
Gateway
> > info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by
itself
> > with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off
> > from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default
> > gateway address. The XP is different.
> >
> > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I
did
> > but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while
recording
> > the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line
simply
> > designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for
the
> > XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I
didn't
> > fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of
setups
> > for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
> > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
> >
> > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
Author
5 Aug 2006 3:21 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
In news:efcrXLFuGHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
jaygreg <jaygre***@hotmail.com> typed:
> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> reconnect to my old network.

So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!)

> That was about four days ago and I still
> not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping
> their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one
> another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I
> used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through
> so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
> workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to
> match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was
> successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the
> workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two
> machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP
> machine.

If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in each
computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up...
>
> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly
> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the
> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of
> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is different.

In a command prompt on the XP pc, type

ipconfig /all >c:\<filename>.txt - you could use myip.txt or something....

On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it.

>
> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what
> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted
> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were
> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by
> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet
> Adapter Local Area Connection".

Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call it
"Fred" if you wished.

>  Although I didn't fully understand
> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for
> internet connection; on public and one private.

?

> I don't know if that
> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
>
> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.

You might check out www.wown.com and www.practicallynetworked.com for some
help setting up your workgroup.

You need to be able to ping each computer by IP address successfully before
anything else....then it's a matter of making sure you can browse\see the
computers by name. Try disabling the Windows Firewall on the XP box for the
time being - or whatever firewall software you may be running.
Author
5 Aug 2006 3:41 PM
jaygreg
>>So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!)<<

No. And if I set up the XP as the host as one set of instructions stated,
I'd add XP network tools to the WIN98SE machine... but the WIN95 machine
would be excluded; it apparently won't run on the 95. In anyevent, the
entire network was running fine under XP HE prior to my reformat so I know
it's possible... unless there's something specific in XP Professional that
precludes it.

>>If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in
each computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up...<<

Could you give me a little more instructions about checking this. Where
specifically will I find it? I'm fairly sure I've check this but don't
remember anything called NetBios; TCP/IP "Yes" but NetBios "No".

>>On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it.<<

It doesn't ... but I found the command. "winpcnfg" I believe.

>>Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call
it  "Fred" if you wished.<<

Good!. Another thing to eliminate. I'll checkthe other references as well.


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> In news:efcrXLFuGHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> jaygreg <jaygre***@hotmail.com> typed:
> > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> > XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> > reconnect to my old network.
>
> So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!)
>
> > That was about four days ago and I still
> > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping
> > their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one
> > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I
> > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through
> > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
> > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to
> > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was
> > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the
> > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two
> > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP
> > machine.
>
> If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in
each
> computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up...
> >
> > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly
> > be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the
> > other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of
> > these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is different.
>
> In a command prompt on the XP pc, type
>
> ipconfig /all >c:\<filename>.txt - you could use myip.txt or something....
>
> On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it.
>
> >
> > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what
> > I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted
> > while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were
> > preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by
> > "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet
> > Adapter Local Area Connection".
>
> Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call
it
> "Fred" if you wished.
>
> >  Although I didn't fully understand
> > all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for
> > internet connection; on public and one private.
>
> ?
>
> > I don't know if that
> > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
> >
> > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
>
> You might check out www.wown.com and www.practicallynetworked.com for some
> help setting up your workgroup.
>
> You need to be able to ping each computer by IP address successfully
before
> anything else....then it's a matter of making sure you can browse\see the
> computers by name. Try disabling the Windows Firewall on the XP box for
the
> time being - or whatever firewall software you may be running.
>
>
Author
5 Aug 2006 6:43 PM
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Aloha jaygreg,

What are the IP addresses of each machine?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

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> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I still
> not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping their
> machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one
> another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I
> used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through
> so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
> workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to
> match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was
> successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the
> workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two
> machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP
> machine.
>
> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be
> off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the other
> two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of these two
> have the same default gateway address. The XP is different.
>
> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I
> did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while
> recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded
> with a line simply designating that which followed by "Ethernet
> Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter
> Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand all the
> implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for internet
> connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that enters
> into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
>
> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
>
Author
6 Aug 2006 3:04 AM
jaygreg
Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP Pro
192.15.100

The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP stands
alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor be seen nor
ping the other two.

I really appreciate your help, Ben.


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"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Aloha jaygreg,
>
> What are the IP addresses of each machine?
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> http://www.rolandschorr.com
> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>
> > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> > XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> > reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I still
> > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping their
> > machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one
> > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I
> > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through
> > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a
> > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to
> > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was
> > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the
> > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two
> > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP
> > machine.
> >
> > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be
> > off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the other
> > two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of these two
> > have the same default gateway address. The XP is different.
> >
> > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I
> > did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while
> > recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded
> > with a line simply designating that which followed by "Ethernet
> > Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter
> > Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand all the
> > implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for internet
> > connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that enters
> > into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
> >
> > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
> >
>
>
Author
6 Aug 2006 4:36 AM
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Aloha jaygreg,

There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro machine.
I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15.  In any case that's
most likely your problem.  I'm guessing your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet from
the third.  If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically
(DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to
get it's address automatically too.

If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically assign
the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for example
192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

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> Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP
> Pro 192.15.100
>
> The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP
> stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor
> be seen nor ping the other two.
>
> I really appreciate your help, Ben.
>
> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Aloha jaygreg,
>>
>> What are the IP addresses of each machine?
>>
>> -Ben-
>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
>> Roland Schorr & Tower
>> http://www.rolandschorr.com
>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
>>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
>>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
>>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I
>>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to
>>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two
>>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have
>>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I
>>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do
>>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I
>>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't
>>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up
>>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other
>>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see
>>> the XP machine.
>>>
>>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
>>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly
>>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the
>>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of
>>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is
>>> different.
>>>
>>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
>>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
>>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what
>>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted
>>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were
>>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by
>>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet
>>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand
>>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for
>>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
>>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
>>>
>>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
>>>
Author
6 Aug 2006 5:31 AM
jaygreg
Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you
suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting my head
against a wall for three days on this.

>>If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically (DHCP)
from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to get it's
address automatically too. <<

I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where do I go
to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same?


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"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Aloha jaygreg,
>
> There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro
machine.
>  I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15.  In any case that's
> most likely your problem.  I'm guessing your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
> in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet
from
> the third.  If the first two machines are getting their addresses
automatically
> (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to
> get it's address automatically too.
>
> If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically
assign
> the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for example
> 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme.
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> Roland Schorr & Tower
> http://www.rolandschorr.com
> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>
> > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP
> > Pro 192.15.100
> >
> > The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP
> > stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor
> > be seen nor ping the other two.
> >
> > I really appreciate your help, Ben.
> >
> > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> > news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >
> >> Aloha jaygreg,
> >>
> >> What are the IP addresses of each machine?
> >>
> >> -Ben-
> >> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> >> Roland Schorr & Tower
> >> http://www.rolandschorr.com
> >> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
> >>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> >>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> >>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> >>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I
> >>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to
> >>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two
> >>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have
> >>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I
> >>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do
> >>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I
> >>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't
> >>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up
> >>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other
> >>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see
> >>> the XP machine.
> >>>
> >>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> >>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly
> >>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the
> >>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of
> >>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is
> >>> different.
> >>>
> >>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> >>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> >>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what
> >>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted
> >>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were
> >>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by
> >>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet
> >>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand
> >>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for
> >>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
> >>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
> >>>
> >>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
> >>>
>
>
Author
6 Aug 2006 3:49 PM
jaygreg
Update! The XP address is assigned by DHCP. I used the Support tab of the
Local Area Connection Status window and found:

Address Type: Assigned by DHCP
IP Address: 192.168.15.100

But... I don't know where to go to reset this so it joins the subnet of the
other two.


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"jaygreg" <jaygre***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you
> suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting my
head
> against a wall for three days on this.
>
> >>If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically
(DHCP)
> from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to get
it's
> address automatically too. <<
>
> I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where do I
go
> to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same?
>
>
> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Aloha jaygreg,
> >
> > There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro
> machine.
> >  I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15.  In any case
that's
> > most likely your problem.  I'm guessing your subnet mask is
255.255.255.0
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> > in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet
> from
> > the third.  If the first two machines are getting their addresses
> automatically
> > (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine
to
> > get it's address automatically too.
> >
> > If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically
> assign
> > the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for
example
> > 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme.
> >
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> > Roland Schorr & Tower
> > http://www.rolandschorr.com
> > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
> >
> > > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP
> > > Pro 192.15.100
> > >
> > > The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP
> > > stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor
> > > be seen nor ping the other two.
> > >
> > > I really appreciate your help, Ben.
> > >
> > > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> > > news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > >
> > >> Aloha jaygreg,
> > >>
> > >> What are the IP addresses of each machine?
> > >>
> > >> -Ben-
> > >> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> > >> Roland Schorr & Tower
> > >> http://www.rolandschorr.com
> > >> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
> > >>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows
> > >>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I
> > >>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to
> > >>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I
> > >>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to
> > >>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two
> > >>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have
> > >>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I
> > >>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do
> > >>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I
> > >>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't
> > >>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up
> > >>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other
> > >>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see
> > >>> the XP machine.
> > >>>
> > >>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default
> > >>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly
> > >>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the
> > >>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of
> > >>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is
> > >>> different.
> > >>>
> > >>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this
> > >>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate  some
> > >>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what
> > >>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted
> > >>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were
> > >>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by
> > >>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet
> > >>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand
> > >>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for
> > >>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that
> > >>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
> > >>>
> >
> >
>
>
Author
6 Aug 2006 6:12 PM
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Aloha jaygreg,

In the Local Area Connections Status Window do you see a Properties button?
If you click it hopefully you'll get a window that includes, towards the
bottom, the protocols that are enabled for that network adapter.  Select
"Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" (or something like that) and click Properties.
On the very first screen it should let you manually assign an IP address,
subnet mask and default gateway.

Make sure the IP address is unique (192.168.0.6 would probably be good),
and make sure the default gateway and subnet mask is the same as the other
two machines.

You should probably read this article: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question549.htm
for a quick primer on IP addressing.

For a more detailed instruction on IP Addressing this is a good read: http://www.bergen.org/ATC/Course/InfoTech/Coolip/

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

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> Update! The XP address is assigned by DHCP. I used the Support tab of
> the Local Area Connection Status window and found:
>
> Address Type: Assigned by DHCP
> IP Address: 192.168.15.100
> But... I don't know where to go to reset this so it joins the subnet
> of the other two.
>
> "jaygreg" <jaygre***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ebkXCnRuGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you
>> suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting
>> my
>>
> head
>
>> against a wall for three days on this.
>>
>>>> If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically
>>>>
> (DHCP)
>
>> from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to
>> get
>>
> it's
>
>> address automatically too. <<
>>
>> I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where
>> do I
>>
> go
>
>> to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same?
>>
>> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
>> news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Aloha jaygreg,
>>>
>>> There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro
>>>
>> machine.
>>
>>> I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15.  In any case
>>>
> that's
>
>>> most likely your problem.  I'm guessing your subnet mask is
>>>
> 255.255.255.0
>
>>> in which case the first two machines are on a different logical
>>> subnet
>>>
>> from
>>
>>> the third.  If the first two machines are getting their addresses
>>>
>> automatically
>>
>>> (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro
>>> machine
>>>
> to
>
>>> get it's address automatically too.
>>>
>>> If their addresses are statically assigned then you should
>>> statically
>>>
>> assign
>>
>>> the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for
>>>
> example
>
>>> 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme.
>>>
>>> -Ben-
>>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
>>> Roland Schorr & Tower
>>> http://www.rolandschorr.com
>>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>>>> Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the
>>>> XP Pro 192.15.100
>>>>
>>>> The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the
>>>> XP stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't
>>>> see nor be seen nor ping the other two.
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate your help, Ben.
>>>>
>>>> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
>>>> news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Aloha jaygreg,
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the IP addresses of each machine?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ben-
>>>>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
>>>>> Roland Schorr & Tower
>>>>> http://www.rolandschorr.com
>>>>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>>>>>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a
>>>>>> Windows XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP
>>>>>> HE so I switched operating systems to XP Professional and
>>>>>> attempted to reconnect to my old network. That was about four
>>>>>> days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read someone
>>>>>> advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a
>>>>>> response when the last two ping one another but neither can ping
>>>>>> the XP machine. I may have erred if I used the network wizard on
>>>>>> the XP after the reformat (I gone through so many checks they're
>>>>>> all running together). I do remember a workgroup being created
>>>>>> simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match the one
>>>>>> linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful
>>>>>> because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup
>>>>>> with the name change - it doesn't show the other two machines.
>>>>>> Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and
>>>>>> Default Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems
>>>>>> to clearly be off by itself with an IP address that's
>>>>>> significantly than the other two which are off from one another
>>>>>> but two digits. Both of these two have the same default gateway
>>>>>> address. The XP is different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by
>>>>>> this observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would
>>>>>> apprecate  some guidance please. At this point it looks like I
>>>>>> may have to undo what I did but I don't know how to remove the
>>>>>> connection. I also noted while recording the addresses that the
>>>>>> WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply designating
>>>>>> that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the
>>>>>> XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection".
>>>>>> Although I didn't fully understand all the implications, I recall
>>>>>> seeing two types of setups for internet connection; on public and
>>>>>> one private. I don't know if that enters into this issue as a
>>>>>> factor or not at this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated.
>>>>>>