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IP Addresses On LANsa WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP machine. When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is different. Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. if the xp machine can talk to both win98 95 machine then Check for firewall
settings on the xp machine which is preventing other mahines to communicate. -- Show quoteHide quoteAll is well when u''''r mind is well "jaygreg" wrote: > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows XP HE, > a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched operating > systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network. > That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read > someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a response > when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I > may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I > gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match > the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful > because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with the > name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither of > the other two machines can see the XP machine. > > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default Gateway > info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by itself > with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off > from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default > gateway address. The XP is different. > > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I did > but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while recording > the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply > designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the > XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't > fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups > for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > > > Sorry, Kiran. I got so wrapped up in that IP Address difference I forgot to
make it clear that the XP failed the ping test; timed out. It can't ping the other two and the other two can't ping it. What's this mean? Show quoteHide quote "Kiran Kumar" <KiranKu***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:984DC134-C32F-4442-8B43-82DF6F8248CA@microsoft.com... > if the xp machine can talk to both win98 95 machine then Check for firewall > settings on the xp machine which is preventing other mahines to communicate. > -- > All is well when u''''r mind is well > > > "jaygreg" wrote: > > > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows XP HE, > > a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I switched operating > > systems to XP Professional and attempted to reconnect to my old network. > > That was about four days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read > > someone advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a response > > when the last two ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I > > may have erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I > > gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match > > the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful > > because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup with the > > name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. Likewise, neither of > > the other two machines can see the XP machine. > > > > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default Gateway > > info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be off by itself > > with an IP address that's significantly than the other two which are off > > from one another but two digits. Both of these two have the same default > > gateway address. The XP is different. > > > > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I did > > but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while recording > > the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply > > designating that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the > > XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't > > fully understand all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups > > for internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that > > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > > > > > > In news:efcrXLFuGHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl, jaygreg <jaygre***@hotmail.com> typed:> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!)> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > reconnect to my old network. > That was about four days ago and I still If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in each > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping > their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP > machine. computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up... > In a command prompt on the XP pc, type> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly > be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the > other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of > these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is different. ipconfig /all >c:\<filename>.txt - you could use myip.txt or something.... On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it. > Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call it > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what > I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted > while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were > preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by > "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet > Adapter Local Area Connection". "Fred" if you wished. > Although I didn't fully understand ?> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for > internet connection; on public and one private. > I don't know if that You might check out www.wown.com and www.practicallynetworked.com for some > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. help setting up your workgroup. You need to be able to ping each computer by IP address successfully before anything else....then it's a matter of making sure you can browse\see the computers by name. Try disabling the Windows Firewall on the XP box for the time being - or whatever firewall software you may be running. >>So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!)<< No. And if I set up the XP as the host as one set of instructions stated,I'd add XP network tools to the WIN98SE machine... but the WIN95 machine would be excluded; it apparently won't run on the 95. In anyevent, the entire network was running fine under XP HE prior to my reformat so I know it's possible... unless there's something specific in XP Professional that precludes it. >>If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in each computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up...<<Could you give me a little more instructions about checking this. Where specifically will I find it? I'm fairly sure I've check this but don't remember anything called NetBios; TCP/IP "Yes" but NetBios "No". >>On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it.<< It doesn't ... but I found the command. "winpcnfg" I believe.>>Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call it "Fred" if you wished.<<Good!. Another thing to eliminate. I'll checkthe other references as well. "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message Show quoteHide quote news:uydAvLKuGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > In news:efcrXLFuGHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl, > jaygreg <jaygre***@hotmail.com> typed: > > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows > > XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > > reconnect to my old network. > > So are they all running XP now? (I'd recommend it!) > > > That was about four days ago and I still > > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping > > their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one > > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I > > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through > > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to > > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was > > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the > > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two > > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP > > machine. > > If they're in the same workgroup, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled in each > computer's TCP/IP properties, they should show up... > > > > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly > > be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the > > other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of > > these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is different. > > In a command prompt on the XP pc, type > > ipconfig /all >c:\<filename>.txt - you could use myip.txt or something.... > > On Win9x PCs, I'm not sure if that works. But you could try it. > > > > > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what > > I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted > > while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were > > preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by > > "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet > > Adapter Local Area Connection". > > Not relevant; XP does this differently. It's just a name. You could call it > "Fred" if you wished. > > > Although I didn't fully understand > > all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for > > internet connection; on public and one private. > > ? > > > I don't know if that > > enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > > You might check out www.wown.com and www.practicallynetworked.com for some > help setting up your workgroup. > > You need to be able to ping each computer by IP address successfully before > anything else....then it's a matter of making sure you can browse\see the > computers by name. Try disabling the Windows Firewall on the XP box for the > time being - or whatever firewall software you may be running. > > Aloha jaygreg,
What are the IP addresses of each machine? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr - MVP Roland Schorr & Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm Show quoteHide quote > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows > XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I still > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping their > machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP > machine. > > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be > off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the other > two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of these two > have the same default gateway address. The XP is different. > > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I > did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while > recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded > with a line simply designating that which followed by "Ethernet > Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter > Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand all the > implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for internet > connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that enters > into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP Pro
192.15.100 The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor be seen nor ping the other two. I really appreciate your help, Ben. Show quoteHide quote "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com... > Aloha jaygreg, > > What are the IP addresses of each machine? > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > Roland Schorr & Tower > http://www.rolandschorr.com > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > > The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows > > XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > > switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > > reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I still > > not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to ping their > > machines as a test. I get a response when the last two ping one > > another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have erred if I > > used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I gone through > > so many checks they're all running together). I do remember a > > workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to > > match the one linking the other two machines. I don't think I was > > successful because - though the XP machine does show up under the > > workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other two > > machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP > > machine. > > > > When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > > Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly be > > off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the other > > two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of these two > > have the same default gateway address. The XP is different. > > > > Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > > observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > > guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what I > > did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted while > > recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded > > with a line simply designating that which followed by "Ethernet > > Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter > > Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand all the > > implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for internet > > connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that enters > > into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > > > Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > > > > Aloha jaygreg,
There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro machine. I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15. In any case that's most likely your problem. I'm guessing your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet from the third. If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to get it's address automatically too. If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically assign the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for example 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr - MVP Roland Schorr & Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm Show quoteHide quote > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP > Pro 192.15.100 > > The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP > stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor > be seen nor ping the other two. > > I really appreciate your help, Ben. > > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message > news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com... > >> Aloha jaygreg, >> >> What are the IP addresses of each machine? >> >> -Ben- >> Ben M. Schorr - MVP >> Roland Schorr & Tower >> http://www.rolandschorr.com >> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm >>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows >>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I >>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to >>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I >>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to >>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two >>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have >>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I >>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do >>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I >>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't >>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up >>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other >>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see >>> the XP machine. >>> >>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default >>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly >>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the >>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of >>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is >>> different. >>> >>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this >>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some >>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what >>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted >>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were >>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by >>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet >>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand >>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for >>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that >>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. >>> >>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. >>> Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you
suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting my head against a wall for three days on this. >>If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to get it'saddress automatically too. << I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where do I go to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same? Show quoteHide quote "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com... > Aloha jaygreg, > > There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro machine. > I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15. In any case that's > most likely your problem. I'm guessing your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 > in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet from > the third. If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically > (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to > get it's address automatically too. > > If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically assign > the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for example > 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme. > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > Roland Schorr & Tower > http://www.rolandschorr.com > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP > > Pro 192.15.100 > > > > The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP > > stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor > > be seen nor ping the other two. > > > > I really appreciate your help, Ben. > > > > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message > > news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com... > > > >> Aloha jaygreg, > >> > >> What are the IP addresses of each machine? > >> > >> -Ben- > >> Ben M. Schorr - MVP > >> Roland Schorr & Tower > >> http://www.rolandschorr.com > >> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > >>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows > >>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > >>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > >>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I > >>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to > >>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two > >>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have > >>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I > >>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do > >>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I > >>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't > >>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up > >>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other > >>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see > >>> the XP machine. > >>> > >>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > >>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly > >>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the > >>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of > >>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is > >>> different. > >>> > >>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > >>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > >>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what > >>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted > >>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were > >>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by > >>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet > >>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand > >>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for > >>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that > >>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > >>> > >>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > >>> > > Update! The XP address is assigned by DHCP. I used the Support tab of the
Local Area Connection Status window and found: Address Type: Assigned by DHCP IP Address: 192.168.15.100 But... I don't know where to go to reset this so it joins the subnet of the other two. Show quoteHide quote "jaygreg" <jaygre***@hotmail.com> wrote in message 255.255.255.0news:ebkXCnRuGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you > suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting my head > against a wall for three days on this. > > >>If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically (DHCP) > from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to get it's > address automatically too. << > > I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where do I go > to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same? > > > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message > news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com... > > Aloha jaygreg, > > > > There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro > machine. > > I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15. In any case that's > > most likely your problem. I'm guessing your subnet mask is Show quoteHide quote > > in which case the first two machines are on a different logical subnet > from > > the third. If the first two machines are getting their addresses > automatically > > (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to > > get it's address automatically too. > > > > If their addresses are statically assigned then you should statically > assign > > the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for example > > 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme. > > > > -Ben- > > Ben M. Schorr - MVP > > Roland Schorr & Tower > > http://www.rolandschorr.com > > Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > > > > Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the XP > > > Pro 192.15.100 > > > > > > The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the XP > > > stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't see nor > > > be seen nor ping the other two. > > > > > > I really appreciate your help, Ben. > > > > > > "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message > > > news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com... > > > > > >> Aloha jaygreg, > > >> > > >> What are the IP addresses of each machine? > > >> > > >> -Ben- > > >> Ben M. Schorr - MVP > > >> Roland Schorr & Tower > > >> http://www.rolandschorr.com > > >> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm > > >>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a Windows > > >>> XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP HE so I > > >>> switched operating systems to XP Professional and attempted to > > >>> reconnect to my old network. That was about four days ago and I > > >>> still not online with the LAN. I read someone advising another to > > >>> ping their machines as a test. I get a response when the last two > > >>> ping one another but neither can ping the XP machine. I may have > > >>> erred if I used the network wizard on the XP after the reformat (I > > >>> gone through so many checks they're all running together). I do > > >>> remember a workgroup being created simply called "Workgroup" which I > > >>> changed to match the one linking the other two machines. I don't > > >>> think I was successful because - though the XP machine does show up > > >>> under the workgroup with the name change - it doesn't show the other > > >>> two machines. Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see > > >>> the XP machine. > > >>> > > >>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and Default > > >>> Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems to clearly > > >>> be off by itself with an IP address that's significantly than the > > >>> other two which are off from one another but two digits. Both of > > >>> these two have the same default gateway address. The XP is > > >>> different. > > >>> > > >>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by this > > >>> observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would apprecate some > > >>> guidance please. At this point it looks like I may have to undo what > > >>> I did but I don't know how to remove the connection. I also noted > > >>> while recording the addresses that the WIN95 and 98SE info were > > >>> preceded with a line simply designating that which followed by > > >>> "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the XP machine read "Ethernet > > >>> Adapter Local Area Connection". Although I didn't fully understand > > >>> all the implications, I recall seeing two types of setups for > > >>> internet connection; on public and one private. I don't know if that > > >>> enters into this issue as a factor or not at this point. > > >>> > > >>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. > > >>> > > > > > > Aloha jaygreg,
In the Local Area Connections Status Window do you see a Properties button? If you click it hopefully you'll get a window that includes, towards the bottom, the protocols that are enabled for that network adapter. Select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" (or something like that) and click Properties. On the very first screen it should let you manually assign an IP address, subnet mask and default gateway. Make sure the IP address is unique (192.168.0.6 would probably be good), and make sure the default gateway and subnet mask is the same as the other two machines. You should probably read this article: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question549.htm for a quick primer on IP addressing. For a more detailed instruction on IP Addressing this is a good read: http://www.bergen.org/ATC/Course/InfoTech/Coolip/ -Ben- Ben M. Schorr - MVP Roland Schorr & Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm Show quoteHide quote > Update! The XP address is assigned by DHCP. I used the Support tab of > the Local Area Connection Status window and found: > > Address Type: Assigned by DHCP > IP Address: 192.168.15.100 > But... I don't know where to go to reset this so it joins the subnet > of the other two. > > "jaygreg" <jaygre***@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ebkXCnRuGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> Sorry Ben. You guessed right.; I did leave out a 168 right where you >> suspected it should be. I really appreciate this. I've been hitting >> my >> > head > >> against a wall for three days on this. >> >>>> If the first two machines are getting their addresses automatically >>>> > (DHCP) > >> from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro machine to >> get >> > it's > >> address automatically too. << >> >> I'm almost certain this is DHCP but I need some instructions. Where >> do I >> > go > >> to verify that then how do I set the XP to be the same? >> >> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message >> news:d3b09586917218c886d53aac7e36@msnews.microsoft.com... >> >>> Aloha jaygreg, >>> >>> There seems to be a number missing from the IP address of the XP Pro >>> >> machine. >> >>> I'm guessing it's a 168 between the 192. and the .15. In any case >>> > that's > >>> most likely your problem. I'm guessing your subnet mask is >>> > 255.255.255.0 > >>> in which case the first two machines are on a different logical >>> subnet >>> >> from >> >>> the third. If the first two machines are getting their addresses >>> >> automatically >> >>> (DHCP) from your router perhaps, then you should set the XP Pro >>> machine >>> > to > >>> get it's address automatically too. >>> >>> If their addresses are statically assigned then you should >>> statically >>> >> assign >> >>> the XP Pro machine with an address on the 192.168.0.x subnet, for >>> > example > >>> 192.168.0.6 would make sense in your scheme. >>> >>> -Ben- >>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP >>> Roland Schorr & Tower >>> http://www.rolandschorr.com >>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm >>>> Hi Ben! The WIN95 is 192.168.0.5, the WIN98SE 192.168.0.4, and the >>>> XP Pro 192.15.100 >>>> >>>> The first two can see each other under the Workgroup Greg but the >>>> XP stands alone - also under a workgroup called Greg - but can't >>>> see nor be seen nor ping the other two. >>>> >>>> I really appreciate your help, Ben. >>>> >>>> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <b***@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message >>>> news:d3b09586911e68c886825b908ca8@msnews.microsoft.com... >>>> >>>>> Aloha jaygreg, >>>>> >>>>> What are the IP addresses of each machine? >>>>> >>>>> -Ben- >>>>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP >>>>> Roland Schorr & Tower >>>>> http://www.rolandschorr.com >>>>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm >>>>>> The LAN I set up a few years ago had 3 machines connected; a >>>>>> Windows XP HE, a WIN98SE, and a WIN95. I had to reformat the XP >>>>>> HE so I switched operating systems to XP Professional and >>>>>> attempted to reconnect to my old network. That was about four >>>>>> days ago and I still not online with the LAN. I read someone >>>>>> advising another to ping their machines as a test. I get a >>>>>> response when the last two ping one another but neither can ping >>>>>> the XP machine. I may have erred if I used the network wizard on >>>>>> the XP after the reformat (I gone through so many checks they're >>>>>> all running together). I do remember a workgroup being created >>>>>> simply called "Workgroup" which I changed to match the one >>>>>> linking the other two machines. I don't think I was successful >>>>>> because - though the XP machine does show up under the workgroup >>>>>> with the name change - it doesn't show the other two machines. >>>>>> Likewise, neither of the other two machines can see the XP >>>>>> machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I ran the ping tests, I recorded the IP Addresses and >>>>>> Default Gateway info of all three machines. The XP machine seems >>>>>> to clearly be off by itself with an IP address that's >>>>>> significantly than the other two which are off from one another >>>>>> but two digits. Both of these two have the same default gateway >>>>>> address. The XP is different. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I finally on to discovering the root cause of my problem by >>>>>> this observation or am I barking up the wrong tree? Would >>>>>> apprecate some guidance please. At this point it looks like I >>>>>> may have to undo what I did but I don't know how to remove the >>>>>> connection. I also noted while recording the addresses that the >>>>>> WIN95 and 98SE info were preceded with a line simply designating >>>>>> that which followed by "Ethernet Adapter" while the line for the >>>>>> XP machine read "Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection". >>>>>> Although I didn't fully understand all the implications, I recall >>>>>> seeing two types of setups for internet connection; on public and >>>>>> one private. I don't know if that enters into this issue as a >>>>>> factor or not at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help anyone gives will be appreciated. >>>>>>
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