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Author
6 Aug 2006 1:16 AM
MP81
Hi, I just got cable internet a few weeks ago (yes, very sad, I know, I used
to have dial up). I eventually learned that my integrated LAN port was "bad"
(so I thought). And I connected to the WRT54G router via wireless because an
old NIC card only got 170 kpbs, like the wireless card. So I ordered a new
NIC card, only to find it limited to 170 kbps too. On the integrated port, I
could get 1 mbps (though it corrupted files, however, the other 2 comps in
the network both get the same speeds, minus corruption). Anyways, I learned
that the nVidia NAM was responsible for the LAN port's corruption. So, I was
working with it, and the cards were still limited, and Windows was screwed up
(could not restore to previous restore points), so, I got angry, and
reinstalled Windows. Now, I get the correct speeds on the cards and the
integrated port (which doesn't corrupt files anymore), however, the
connection seems really flaky now. It was never like this on the old
installation and is not like this on any other computers. I know the cable is
not bad, nor is the router or the cable modem. What is wrong is that the
connection seems to disconnect and then reconnect often (seems to only happen
when using X-Chat 2 or an online Java chatroom, and I have noticed errors in
my browser on Filefront). I have to think that windows is causing the
connection to be flaky and other things to happen. Any ideas on what is
happening? I can't have the connection be like this, especially since I play
online games. I can't have a cable internet connection that, although faster
than dial up, is less reliable.

Thanks.

Author
7 Aug 2006 2:40 PM
Chuck
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:16:01 -0700, MP81 <M***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>Hi, I just got cable internet a few weeks ago (yes, very sad, I know, I used
>to have dial up). I eventually learned that my integrated LAN port was "bad"
>(so I thought). And I connected to the WRT54G router via wireless because an
>old NIC card only got 170 kpbs, like the wireless card. So I ordered a new
>NIC card, only to find it limited to 170 kbps too. On the integrated port, I
>could get 1 mbps (though it corrupted files, however, the other 2 comps in
>the network both get the same speeds, minus corruption). Anyways, I learned
>that the nVidia NAM was responsible for the LAN port's corruption. So, I was
>working with it, and the cards were still limited, and Windows was screwed up
>(could not restore to previous restore points), so, I got angry, and
>reinstalled Windows. Now, I get the correct speeds on the cards and the
>integrated port (which doesn't corrupt files anymore), however, the
>connection seems really flaky now. It was never like this on the old
>installation and is not like this on any other computers. I know the cable is
>not bad, nor is the router or the cable modem. What is wrong is that the
>connection seems to disconnect and then reconnect often (seems to only happen
>when using X-Chat 2 or an online Java chatroom, and I have noticed errors in
>my browser on Filefront). I have to think that windows is causing the
>connection to be flaky and other things to happen. Any ideas on what is
>happening? I can't have the connection be like this, especially since I play
>online games. I can't have a cable internet connection that, although faster
>than dial up, is less reliable.

Do you have an nVidia NIC?  That's where a few problems have started.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html

If the nVidia card is NOT the problem, then you're going to have to diagnose the
problem.  One step at a time.  Re installing Windows isn't always the best
solution.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html

And you might want to note that most of the folks here are not Microsoft
employees.  Don't rant about "I can't have (whatever)".  Be patient with us, and
Help Us To Help You.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
7 Aug 2006 6:06 PM
MP81
Actually, I have three NIC devices. One is an integrated port (the nvidia)
and one is a Linksys PCI NIC card, and a Linksys PCI Wireless NIC card. All
three have the same problems. And it only seems to happen when I use IRC
chatrooms and clients.

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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:16:01 -0700, MP81 <M***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi, I just got cable internet a few weeks ago (yes, very sad, I know, I used
> >to have dial up). I eventually learned that my integrated LAN port was "bad"
> >(so I thought). And I connected to the WRT54G router via wireless because an
> >old NIC card only got 170 kpbs, like the wireless card. So I ordered a new
> >NIC card, only to find it limited to 170 kbps too. On the integrated port, I
> >could get 1 mbps (though it corrupted files, however, the other 2 comps in
> >the network both get the same speeds, minus corruption). Anyways, I learned
> >that the nVidia NAM was responsible for the LAN port's corruption. So, I was
> >working with it, and the cards were still limited, and Windows was screwed up
> >(could not restore to previous restore points), so, I got angry, and
> >reinstalled Windows. Now, I get the correct speeds on the cards and the
> >integrated port (which doesn't corrupt files anymore), however, the
> >connection seems really flaky now. It was never like this on the old
> >installation and is not like this on any other computers. I know the cable is
> >not bad, nor is the router or the cable modem. What is wrong is that the
> >connection seems to disconnect and then reconnect often (seems to only happen
> >when using X-Chat 2 or an online Java chatroom, and I have noticed errors in
> >my browser on Filefront). I have to think that windows is causing the
> >connection to be flaky and other things to happen. Any ideas on what is
> >happening? I can't have the connection be like this, especially since I play
> >online games. I can't have a cable internet connection that, although faster
> >than dial up, is less reliable.
>
> Do you have an nVidia NIC?  That's where a few problems have started.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html
>
> If the nVidia card is NOT the problem, then you're going to have to diagnose the
> problem.  One step at a time.  Re installing Windows isn't always the best
> solution.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>
> And you might want to note that most of the folks here are not Microsoft
> employees.  Don't rant about "I can't have (whatever)".  Be patient with us, and
> Help Us To Help You.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
Author
21 Aug 2006 9:48 PM
MP81
And sorry for being bratty about it not being acceptable. Anyways, some
problems I forgot to list that seem to be related to this whole thing is that
Steam updates at about 100 kbps. My brother's computer updates on steam
around 300-500 kbps. Also, on certain maps on Counter Strike Source the ping
went from 40 on the old windows install to about 80. Same settings and
everything. Do you think that installing windows after reformatting may fix
these problems? Because when I reinstalled windows here, I didn't reformat, I
just installed over the old install.

Thanks.

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"MP81" wrote:

> Actually, I have three NIC devices. One is an integrated port (the nvidia)
> and one is a Linksys PCI NIC card, and a Linksys PCI Wireless NIC card. All
> three have the same problems. And it only seems to happen when I use IRC
> chatrooms and clients.
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:16:01 -0700, MP81 <M***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi, I just got cable internet a few weeks ago (yes, very sad, I know, I used
> > >to have dial up). I eventually learned that my integrated LAN port was "bad"
> > >(so I thought). And I connected to the WRT54G router via wireless because an
> > >old NIC card only got 170 kpbs, like the wireless card. So I ordered a new
> > >NIC card, only to find it limited to 170 kbps too. On the integrated port, I
> > >could get 1 mbps (though it corrupted files, however, the other 2 comps in
> > >the network both get the same speeds, minus corruption). Anyways, I learned
> > >that the nVidia NAM was responsible for the LAN port's corruption. So, I was
> > >working with it, and the cards were still limited, and Windows was screwed up
> > >(could not restore to previous restore points), so, I got angry, and
> > >reinstalled Windows. Now, I get the correct speeds on the cards and the
> > >integrated port (which doesn't corrupt files anymore), however, the
> > >connection seems really flaky now. It was never like this on the old
> > >installation and is not like this on any other computers. I know the cable is
> > >not bad, nor is the router or the cable modem. What is wrong is that the
> > >connection seems to disconnect and then reconnect often (seems to only happen
> > >when using X-Chat 2 or an online Java chatroom, and I have noticed errors in
> > >my browser on Filefront). I have to think that windows is causing the
> > >connection to be flaky and other things to happen. Any ideas on what is
> > >happening? I can't have the connection be like this, especially since I play
> > >online games. I can't have a cable internet connection that, although faster
> > >than dial up, is less reliable.
> >
> > Do you have an nVidia NIC?  That's where a few problems have started.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html
> >
> > If the nVidia card is NOT the problem, then you're going to have to diagnose the
> > problem.  One step at a time.  Re installing Windows isn't always the best
> > solution.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
> >
> > And you might want to note that most of the folks here are not Microsoft
> > employees.  Don't rant about "I can't have (whatever)".  Be patient with us, and
> > Help Us To Help You.
> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >
Author
22 Aug 2006 12:24 AM
Chuck
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:48:12 -0700, MP81 <M***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>"MP81" wrote:

>> "Chuck" wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:16:01 -0700, MP81 <M***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hi, I just got cable internet a few weeks ago (yes, very sad, I know, I used
>> > >to have dial up). I eventually learned that my integrated LAN port was "bad"
>> > >(so I thought). And I connected to the WRT54G router via wireless because an
>> > >old NIC card only got 170 kpbs, like the wireless card. So I ordered a new
>> > >NIC card, only to find it limited to 170 kbps too. On the integrated port, I
>> > >could get 1 mbps (though it corrupted files, however, the other 2 comps in
>> > >the network both get the same speeds, minus corruption). Anyways, I learned
>> > >that the nVidia NAM was responsible for the LAN port's corruption. So, I was
>> > >working with it, and the cards were still limited, and Windows was screwed up
>> > >(could not restore to previous restore points), so, I got angry, and
>> > >reinstalled Windows. Now, I get the correct speeds on the cards and the
>> > >integrated port (which doesn't corrupt files anymore), however, the
>> > >connection seems really flaky now. It was never like this on the old
>> > >installation and is not like this on any other computers. I know the cable is
>> > >not bad, nor is the router or the cable modem. What is wrong is that the
>> > >connection seems to disconnect and then reconnect often (seems to only happen
>> > >when using X-Chat 2 or an online Java chatroom, and I have noticed errors in
>> > >my browser on Filefront). I have to think that windows is causing the
>> > >connection to be flaky and other things to happen. Any ideas on what is
>> > >happening? I can't have the connection be like this, especially since I play
>> > >online games. I can't have a cable internet connection that, although faster
>> > >than dial up, is less reliable.
>> >
>> > Do you have an nVidia NIC?  That's where a few problems have started.
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html
>> >
>> > If the nVidia card is NOT the problem, then you're going to have to diagnose the
>> > problem.  One step at a time.  Re installing Windows isn't always the best
>> > solution.
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>> >
>> > And you might want to note that most of the folks here are not Microsoft
>> > employees.  Don't rant about "I can't have (whatever)".  Be patient with us, and
>> > Help Us To Help You.
>> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

>
>> Actually, I have three NIC devices. One is an integrated port (the nvidia)
>> and one is a Linksys PCI NIC card, and a Linksys PCI Wireless NIC card. All
>> three have the same problems. And it only seems to happen when I use IRC
>> chatrooms and clients.
>>

>And sorry for being bratty about it not being acceptable. Anyways, some
>problems I forgot to list that seem to be related to this whole thing is that
>Steam updates at about 100 kbps. My brother's computer updates on steam
>around 300-500 kbps. Also, on certain maps on Counter Strike Source the ping
>went from 40 on the old windows install to about 80. Same settings and
>everything. Do you think that installing windows after reformatting may fix
>these problems? Because when I reinstalled windows here, I didn't reformat, I
>just installed over the old install.

It's vaguely possible that a reinstall of Windows over the old contributed to
the problem.

Since you mention Counter Strike, IRC, and Steam, all of which have their own
network idiosyncrasies (different from plain old web browsing), I have to
suspect something in the LSP / Winsock.  That could involve nVidia drivers, or
it could be something else.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

Look at other discussions in this forum over the past 6 months or so, for
discussions about the nVidia nForce.  My gut feel is that the nVidia is
involved.  It's your computer, but we'll advise you the best we can.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.