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Author
6 Aug 2006 2:35 PM
nadeem
Hi, I've got 3 computers hooked up to my belkin router (laptop and one
computer via wi-fi and the other computer with ethernet). It says on
the box of my router that it has speeds of 54 Mb per second. Although
when i try to transfer a file from my computer to the laptop (both by
wi-fi) it takes far longer to transfer then it should. The computer and
laptop are in close range of the router and are connected at 54Mb per
second. If i look in the task manager, it says i'm only utilizing about
8% of the network. Does anyone know how to increase network utilization?

Author
6 Aug 2006 3:44 PM
Jim
"nadeem" <maroof***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1154874948.625806.177640@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, I've got 3 computers hooked up to my belkin router (laptop and one
> computer via wi-fi and the other computer with ethernet). It says on
> the box of my router that it has speeds of 54 Mb per second. Although
> when i try to transfer a file from my computer to the laptop (both by
> wi-fi) it takes far longer to transfer then it should. The computer and
> laptop are in close range of the router and are connected at 54Mb per
> second. If i look in the task manager, it says i'm only utilizing about
> 8% of the network. Does anyone know how to increase network utilization?
>
For starters, it isn't 54MB/sec, it is 54MHZ.  Secondly, that is not a
steady state value.  Lots of messages, in addition to your data flow,
transmit through that very same pipe.

Even so, 8% utilization does seem a bit slow. About all one can do is to
insure that the buffer sizes are large enough.  You will need to dig very
deep into the network internals to learn about this issue.

Jim
Author
6 Aug 2006 6:02 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <v7oBg.3416$kO3***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim"
<jim-nor***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>"nadeem" <maroof***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1154874948.625806.177640@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi, I've got 3 computers hooked up to my belkin router (laptop and one
>> computer via wi-fi and the other computer with ethernet). It says on
>> the box of my router that it has speeds of 54 Mb per second. Although
>> when i try to transfer a file from my computer to the laptop (both by
>> wi-fi) it takes far longer to transfer then it should. The computer and
>> laptop are in close range of the router and are connected at 54Mb per
>> second. If i look in the task manager, it says i'm only utilizing about
>> 8% of the network. Does anyone know how to increase network utilization?
>>
>For starters, it isn't 54MB/sec, it is 54MHZ.  Secondly, that is not a
>steady state value.  Lots of messages, in addition to your data flow,
>transmit through that very same pipe. [snip]

"nadeem" is right, Jim.  The rated speed of an 802.11g wireless
connection is 54 megabits per second.  See:

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci783003,00.html

However, like all rated speeds for networking equipment, it's a
theoretical maximum speed under ideal laboratory conditions.  Real
networking equipment never gets anywhere close to its rated speed for
actual data transfers.  As you say, it's not a steady state value, and
it doesn't account for non-data bits in the data flow.

In my tests, the actual speed of a file copy using 802.11g wireless is
generally between 10-20 megabits/second (1.25-2.50 megabytes/second)
At that speed, it takes between one and two minutes to transmit a 150
megabyte file.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Author
6 Aug 2006 6:34 PM
Jim
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <v7oBg.3416$kO3***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim"
> <jim-nor***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> "nadeem" is right, Jim.  The rated speed of an 802.11g wireless
> connection is 54 megabits per second.  See:
>
> http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci783003,00.html
>
Ok, so I learn something new every day...
> However, like all rated speeds for networking equipment, it's a
> theoretical maximum speed under ideal laboratory conditions.  Real
> networking equipment never gets anywhere close to its rated speed for
> actual data transfers.  As you say, it's not a steady state value, and
> it doesn't account for non-data bits in the data flow.
>
> In my tests, the actual speed of a file copy using 802.11g wireless is
> generally between 10-20 megabits/second (1.25-2.50 megabytes/second)
> At that speed, it takes between one and two minutes to transmit a 150
> megabyte file.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
Is the wireless protocol like Ethernet?  It is very hard on an Ethernet line
to get more than 60% throughput because of packet collisions.  Once upon a
time, I updated an Ethernet packet sniffer program to get it to work as well
as possible on Alpha VMS.  Every now and then I saw 60% or more, but I never
really believed the calculations.  One of the many problems is that a host
computer cannot see its own packets unless they are broadcast packets.
Jim
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Author
6 Aug 2006 6:44 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <_CqBg.3447$kO3.1***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim"
<jim-nor***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> "nadeem" is right, Jim.  The rated speed of an 802.11g wireless
>> connection is 54 megabits per second.  See:
>>
>> http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci783003,00.html
>
>Ok, so I learn something new every day...
>
>> However, like all rated speeds for networking equipment, it's a
>> theoretical maximum speed under ideal laboratory conditions.  Real
>> networking equipment never gets anywhere close to its rated speed for
>> actual data transfers.  As you say, it's not a steady state value, and
>> it doesn't account for non-data bits in the data flow.
>>
>> In my tests, the actual speed of a file copy using 802.11g wireless is
>> generally between 10-20 megabits/second (1.25-2.50 megabytes/second)
>> At that speed, it takes between one and two minutes to transmit a 150
>> megabyte file.
>
>Is the wireless protocol like Ethernet?  It is very hard on an Ethernet line
>to get more than 60% throughput because of packet collisions.  Once upon a
>time, I updated an Ethernet packet sniffer program to get it to work as well
>as possible on Alpha VMS.  Every now and then I saw 60% or more, but I never
>really believed the calculations.  One of the many problems is that a host
>computer cannot see its own packets unless they are broadcast packets.
>Jim

I don't know the details of the wireless protocol (or the wired
protocol, for that matter).  On a Fast Ethernet (100 megabit rated)
connection, I've seen file copy speeds of up to 70 megabits/second.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
6 Aug 2006 7:07 PM
Jim
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <_CqBg.3447$kO3.1***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim"
> <jim-nor***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> "nadeem" is right, Jim.  The rated speed of an 802.11g wireless
>>> connection is 54 megabits per second.  See:
>>>
>>> http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci783003,00.html
>>
>>Ok, so I learn something new every day...
>>
>>> However, like all rated speeds for networking equipment, it's a
>>> theoretical maximum speed under ideal laboratory conditions.  Real
>>> networking equipment never gets anywhere close to its rated speed for
>>> actual data transfers.  As you say, it's not a steady state value, and
>>> it doesn't account for non-data bits in the data flow.
>>>
>>> In my tests, the actual speed of a file copy using 802.11g wireless is
>>> generally between 10-20 megabits/second (1.25-2.50 megabytes/second)
>>> At that speed, it takes between one and two minutes to transmit a 150
>>> megabyte file.
>>
>>Is the wireless protocol like Ethernet?  It is very hard on an Ethernet
>>line
>>to get more than 60% throughput because of packet collisions.  Once upon a
>>time, I updated an Ethernet packet sniffer program to get it to work as
>>well
>>as possible on Alpha VMS.  Every now and then I saw 60% or more, but I
>>never
>>really believed the calculations.  One of the many problems is that a host
>>computer cannot see its own packets unless they are broadcast packets.
>>Jim
>
> I don't know the details of the wireless protocol (or the wired
> protocol, for that matter).  On a Fast Ethernet (100 megabit rated)
> connection, I've seen file copy speeds of up to 70 megabits/second.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
The wired one is supposed to be Ethernet, but most likely is the 10
megabit/second version.  If they were using Fast Ethernet, the whole world
would know..
Jim
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Author
6 Aug 2006 7:35 PM
V Green
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <_CqBg.3447$kO3.1***@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim"
> <jim-nor***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> "nadeem" is right, Jim.  The rated speed of an 802.11g wireless
> >> connection is 54 megabits per second.  See:
> >>
> >> http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci783003,00.html
> >
> >Ok, so I learn something new every day...
> >
> >> However, like all rated speeds for networking equipment, it's a
> >> theoretical maximum speed under ideal laboratory conditions.  Real
> >> networking equipment never gets anywhere close to its rated speed for
> >> actual data transfers.  As you say, it's not a steady state value, and
> >> it doesn't account for non-data bits in the data flow.
> >>
> >> In my tests, the actual speed of a file copy using 802.11g wireless is
> >> generally between 10-20 megabits/second (1.25-2.50 megabytes/second)
> >> At that speed, it takes between one and two minutes to transmit a 150
> >> megabyte file.
> >
> >Is the wireless protocol like Ethernet?  It is very hard on an Ethernet
line
> >to get more than 60% throughput because of packet collisions.  Once upon
a
> >time, I updated an Ethernet packet sniffer program to get it to work as
well
> >as possible on Alpha VMS.  Every now and then I saw 60% or more, but I
never
> >really believed the calculations.  One of the many problems is that a
host
> >computer cannot see its own packets unless they are broadcast packets.
> >Jim
>
> I don't know the details of the wireless protocol (or the wired
> protocol, for that matter).  On a Fast Ethernet (100 megabit rated)
> connection, I've seen file copy speeds of up to 70 megabits/second.

Wireless has much more overhead than 10/100 wired due to
the less reliable transmission medium (RF vs. copper).

Manufacturers have done a great job marketing wireless products
based on the design throughput of the silicon inside, which NEVER
comes even close to actual throughput.  In other words, they lie,
just like most marketing types, in order to sell stuff.


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> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
6 Aug 2006 6:03 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Optimize your computers TCP/IP Stack according to the type of your Internet
connection, ii would provide better Internet and in most cases would improve
Network traffic.
http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"nadeem" <maroof***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1154874948.625806.177640@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, I've got 3 computers hooked up to my belkin router (laptop and one
> computer via wi-fi and the other computer with ethernet). It says on
> the box of my router that it has speeds of 54 Mb per second. Although
> when i try to transfer a file from my computer to the laptop (both by
> wi-fi) it takes far longer to transfer then it should. The computer and
> laptop are in close range of the router and are connected at 54Mb per
> second. If i look in the task manager, it says i'm only utilizing about
> 8% of the network. Does anyone know how to increase network utilization?
>