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Author
7 Aug 2006 11:37 PM
Ricardo
I presume that the icf to be configured requires that the network computers
are connected to the internet, but if I use a router ( a residential gateway
) I choose that each computer connects  to the internet through the router.
In that case the Windows firewall that is configured on each computer
protects the computer?
Thank you.

Author
8 Aug 2006 12:54 AM
Malke
Ricardo wrote:

> I presume that the icf to be configured requires that the network
> computers are connected to the internet, but if I use a router ( a
> residential gateway
> ) I choose that each computer connects  to the internet through the
> router. In that case the Windows firewall that is configured on each
> computer protects the computer?
>  Thank you.

I'm a little confused by your post. You don't want to use Internet
Connection Sharing or the pre-SP2 Internet Connection Firewall with a
router. Here's what you should have:

1. You have the router, so all computers get the Internet and the local area
network through the router. You can have the router act as the DHCP server
and assign private IP addresses (ex. 192.168.1.xxx) or you can manually
assign static IP's. For a small home network, automatic IP/DNS is usually
the way to go.

2. Each computer needs to have a firewall installed. If you have XP, you
should do all necessary preparation and then install Service Pack 2. You
would then use the SP2 firewall with File & Printer sharing enabled if so
desired. Do not attempt to install SP2 without proper preparation. Post
back if you want help with that.

3. On each computer that is not running XP SP2, you need a third-party
firewall installed.

Post back with a better description of your network and your problems if you
want more help.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"
Author
8 Aug 2006 10:02 PM
Ricardo
I have configured a small home network with the network set up wizard. All
the computers run Windows XP pro , all of them are updated with the service
pack2. When running the network set up wizard he looks for a shared
connection on my network. Detecting one the set up wizard recommends to use
that shared connection. I prefer to use the "My computer connects to the
internet through a residential gateway or through another computer" option ,
because when the computers are not connected to the internet I can still use
the shared resources of my network. Choosing the recommended shared
connection when the computers aren't on the internet I cannot use the shared
resources. Having choosed "this computer connects though a residential
gateway" I continuously receive the message if I want to turn on the ICSF. IS
there something wrong with my computers ? The recommended shared connection
doesn't allow shared resources when the internet connection is down? Two days
ago one of my computers was completely controlled by someone and it had a
terrible crash that I'm trying to recover with the recovery console

                Thank you for your time



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"Malke" wrote:

> Ricardo wrote:
>
> > I presume that the icf to be configured requires that the network
> > computers are connected to the internet, but if I use a router ( a
> > residential gateway
> > ) I choose that each computer connects  to the internet through the
> > router. In that case the Windows firewall that is configured on each
> > computer protects the computer?
> >  Thank you.
>
> I'm a little confused by your post. You don't want to use Internet
> Connection Sharing or the pre-SP2 Internet Connection Firewall with a
> router. Here's what you should have:
>
> 1. You have the router, so all computers get the Internet and the local area
> network through the router. You can have the router act as the DHCP server
> and assign private IP addresses (ex. 192.168.1.xxx) or you can manually
> assign static IP's. For a small home network, automatic IP/DNS is usually
> the way to go.
>
> 2. Each computer needs to have a firewall installed. If you have XP, you
> should do all necessary preparation and then install Service Pack 2. You
> would then use the SP2 firewall with File & Printer sharing enabled if so
> desired. Do not attempt to install SP2 without proper preparation. Post
> back if you want help with that.
>
> 3. On each computer that is not running XP SP2, you need a third-party
> firewall installed.
>
> Post back with a better description of your network and your problems if you
> want more help.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"
>
Author
8 Aug 2006 11:50 PM
Malke
Ricardo wrote:

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> I have configured a small home network with the network set up wizard. All
> the computers run Windows XP pro , all of them are updated with the
> service pack2. When running the network set up wizard he looks for a
> shared connection on my network. Detecting one the set up wizard
> recommends to use that shared connection. I prefer to use the "My computer
> connects to the internet through a residential gateway or through another
> computer" option , because when the computers are not connected to the
> internet I can still use the shared resources of my network. Choosing the
> recommended shared connection when the computers aren't on the internet I
> cannot use the shared resources. Having choosed "this computer connects
> though a residential gateway" I continuously receive the message if I want
> to turn on the ICSF. IS there something wrong with my computers ? The
> recommended shared connection doesn't allow shared resources when the
> internet connection is down? Two days ago one of my computers was
> completely controlled by someone and it had a terrible crash that I'm
> trying to recover with the recovery console

Normally you would choose the residential gateway when you have a router. I
don't know why you are receiving that message because you shouldn't be.
What is the make/model of the router?

If one of the computers on the network was "completely controlled" by
someone, then there is a high probability that the other computers were
also infected. It would be wise to delay setting up the network until you
know for sure that all computers are completely clean. Doing this on
multiple computers can be complicated. It may be more sensible for you to
have a professional come on-site and sort you out.

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Some network links that may help:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html\
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by Hans-Georg
Michna

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"
Author
9 Aug 2006 12:40 AM
Ricardo
the router is a BEF11SW4 Linksys cable router. The modem is a Motorola SB
4200 cable modem. On the computer from where I'm contacting you I identified
and deleted on the shared folders , on the computer management shares a non
microsofot file. Maybe you are right and I will contact the microsoft support
and my computer manufacter support.

Thank you once again.

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"Malke" wrote:

> Ricardo wrote:
>
> > I have configured a small home network with the network set up wizard. All
> > the computers run Windows XP pro , all of them are updated with the
> > service pack2. When running the network set up wizard he looks for a
> > shared connection on my network. Detecting one the set up wizard
> > recommends to use that shared connection. I prefer to use the "My computer
> > connects to the internet through a residential gateway or through another
> > computer" option , because when the computers are not connected to the
> > internet I can still use the shared resources of my network. Choosing the
> > recommended shared connection when the computers aren't on the internet I
> > cannot use the shared resources. Having choosed "this computer connects
> > though a residential gateway" I continuously receive the message if I want
> > to turn on the ICSF. IS there something wrong with my computers ? The
> > recommended shared connection doesn't allow shared resources when the
> > internet connection is down? Two days ago one of my computers was
> > completely controlled by someone and it had a terrible crash that I'm
> > trying to recover with the recovery console
>
> Normally you would choose the residential gateway when you have a router. I
> don't know why you are receiving that message because you shouldn't be.
> What is the make/model of the router?
>
> If one of the computers on the network was "completely controlled" by
> someone, then there is a high probability that the other computers were
> also infected. It would be wise to delay setting up the network until you
> know for sure that all computers are completely clean. Doing this on
> multiple computers can be complicated. It may be more sensible for you to
> have a professional come on-site and sort you out.
>
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
>
> Some network links that may help:
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html\
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by Hans-Georg
> Michna
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"
>
Author
9 Aug 2006 2:45 AM
Malke
Ricardo wrote:

> the router is a BEF11SW4 Linksys cable router. The modem is a Motorola SB
> 4200 cable modem. On the computer from where I'm contacting you I
> identified and deleted on the shared folders , on the computer management
> shares a non microsofot file. Maybe you are right and I will contact the
> microsoft support and my computer manufacter support.

Maybe I'm right about what? I didn't mention anything about Microsoft or
your OEM's support. You need to hire a professional computer repair person
to come on-site and straighten out the mess. There isn't going to be
anything Microsoft or OEM telephone support is going to be able to do about
your possibly infected machines.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"
Author
9 Aug 2006 2:46 PM
Ricardo
Ok thank you , but do you know where I live ?

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"Malke" wrote:

> Ricardo wrote:
>
> > the router is a BEF11SW4 Linksys cable router. The modem is a Motorola SB
> > 4200 cable modem. On the computer from where I'm contacting you I
> > identified and deleted on the shared folders , on the computer management
> > shares a non microsofot file. Maybe you are right and I will contact the
> > microsoft support and my computer manufacter support.
>
> Maybe I'm right about what? I didn't mention anything about Microsoft or
> your OEM's support. You need to hire a professional computer repair person
> to come on-site and straighten out the mess. There isn't going to be
> anything Microsoft or OEM telephone support is going to be able to do about
> your possibly infected machines.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"
>
Author
10 Aug 2006 12:59 AM
Ricardo
Malke I need your help. If I reinstall Windows my saved documents will infect
the new instalation?

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"Malke" wrote:

> Ricardo wrote:
>
> > the router is a BEF11SW4 Linksys cable router. The modem is a Motorola SB
> > 4200 cable modem. On the computer from where I'm contacting you I
> > identified and deleted on the shared folders , on the computer management
> > shares a non microsofot file. Maybe you are right and I will contact the
> > microsoft support and my computer manufacter support.
>
> Maybe I'm right about what? I didn't mention anything about Microsoft or
> your OEM's support. You need to hire a professional computer repair person
> to come on-site and straighten out the mess. There isn't going to be
> anything Microsoft or OEM telephone support is going to be able to do about
> your possibly infected machines.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"
>