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why so slow?I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm
moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. Any ideas what the problem might be? TIA, David On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: David,>I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > >TIA, >David Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a relevant detail, which is needed immediately. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical network first. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thanks Chuck. Your notes seem to address situations of NO comunication
bw computers. As I said, I have a connection, it's just very slow. FYI, in an attempt to transfer the data faster, the two computers (one desktop and one laptop) were wired via Ethernet. I can mount my shared drives just fine bw the machines. My issue is throughput. Any thoughts? TIA, David =============================== Chuck wrote: Show quoteHide quote > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > > > >TIA, > >David > > David, > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical > network first. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. BTW, I've replicated this problem with a cable known to be good. --d
David wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Thanks Chuck. Your notes seem to address situations of NO comunication > bw computers. As I said, I have a connection, it's just very slow. FYI, > in an attempt to transfer the data faster, the two computers (one > desktop and one laptop) were wired via Ethernet. > > I can mount my shared drives just fine bw the machines. My issue is > throughput. > > Any thoughts? > > TIA, > David > =============================== > Chuck wrote: > > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm > > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s > > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've > > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > > > > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > > > > > >TIA, > > >David > > > > David, > > > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another > > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. > > > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or > > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a > > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, > > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to > > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical > > network first. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > > My email is AT DOT > > actual address pchuck mvps org. On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: David,>I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > >TIA, >David Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a relevant detail, which is needed immediately. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html And, of course, whenever WiFi is involved, there will always be limitations. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical network first. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Unbelievable...I just 're-connected' the computers (wirelessly) and
find that I'm now on track to move 12+ Gb of data in < 2hrs! What's it take to predict throughput?!?!? So, it's interesting that I was having the problems wired but not wirelessly. I'll test the wired again after this transfer is complete and report back the findings. Geez! David Chuck wrote: Show quoteHide quote > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > > > >TIA, > >David > > David, > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > And, of course, whenever WiFi is involved, there will always be limitations. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical > network first. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. New observation: The files I'm moving are music files. I notice that
the time estimate for the transfer increases considerably when I start WMP. Might this have been related to my problems? Mind you, the files that were moving slowly were NOT being played but WMP was up and running. Thanks again, David David wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Unbelievable...I just 're-connected' the computers (wirelessly) and > find that I'm now on track to move 12+ Gb of data in < 2hrs! What's it > take to predict throughput?!?!? > > So, it's interesting that I was having the problems wired but not > wirelessly. I'll test the wired again after this transfer is complete > and report back the findings. > > Geez! > > David > Chuck wrote: > > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm > > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s > > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've > > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > > > > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > > > > > >TIA, > > >David > > > > David, > > > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another > > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. > > > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or > > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a > > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > > > And, of course, whenever WiFi is involved, there will always be limitations. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html > > > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, > > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to > > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical > > network first. > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > > My email is AT DOT > > actual address pchuck mvps org. I've confirmed that the problem is when I'm connected via Ethernet.
Wirelessly, I'm fine. Any thoughts what it might be then? Thanks again, David David wrote: Show quoteHide quote > New observation: The files I'm moving are music files. I notice that > the time estimate for the transfer increases considerably when I start > WMP. Might this have been related to my problems? Mind you, the files > that were moving slowly were NOT being played but WMP was up and > running. > > Thanks again, > David > > David wrote: > > Unbelievable...I just 're-connected' the computers (wirelessly) and > > find that I'm now on track to move 12+ Gb of data in < 2hrs! What's it > > take to predict throughput?!?!? > > > > So, it's interesting that I was having the problems wired but not > > wirelessly. I'll test the wired again after this transfer is complete > > and report back the findings. > > > > Geez! > > > > David > > Chuck wrote: > > > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm > > > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s > > > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've > > > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. > > > > > > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? > > > > > > > >TIA, > > > >David > > > > > > David, > > > > > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another > > > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. > > > > > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. > > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > > > > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or > > > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a > > > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. > > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > > > > > And, of course, whenever WiFi is involved, there will always be limitations. > > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html> > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html > > > > > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, > > > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to > > > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical > > > network first. > > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > > > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > > > My email is AT DOT > > > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On 9 Aug 2006 16:38:17 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: David,>David wrote: >> David wrote: >> > Chuck wrote: >> > > On 9 Aug 2006 09:22:37 -0700, "David" <david***@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > >I've got two XP machines on my home network (linksys wrk54g) that I'm >> > > >moving ~14Gb of data between. Now, I don't expect the full 100Mb/s >> > > >throughput but it seems to be exceedingly slow. In about 12 hours, I've >> > > >moved around 1.9Gb which comes to about .337Mb/s. >> > > > >> > > >Any ideas what the problem might be? >> > > > >> > > >TIA, >> > > >David >> > > >> > > David, >> > > >> > > Your question comes up occasionally. Copying files form one computer to another >> > > is a complex procedure, though it may not look that way to you. >> > > >> > > Please start with my article on diagnosing network problems. >> > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >> > > >> > > Now if you have a WiFi network, are the computers connected by Ethernet, or >> > > WiFi? If both are using WiFi, then you have a duplexing problem. This is a >> > > relevant detail, which is needed immediately. >> > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> >> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html >> > > >> > > And, of course, whenever WiFi is involved, there will always be limitations. >> > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html> >> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html >> > > >> > > Besides the physical connectivity possibilities, there are protocol problems, >> > > and possible performance problems on the computers themselves. But as I like to >> > > diagnose problems in a layered sequence, let's concentrate on the physical >> > > network first. >> > > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One> >> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#One >> > Unbelievable...I just 're-connected' the computers (wirelessly) and >> > find that I'm now on track to move 12+ Gb of data in < 2hrs! What's it >> > take to predict throughput?!?!? >> > >> > So, it's interesting that I was having the problems wired but not >> > wirelessly. I'll test the wired again after this transfer is complete >> > and report back the findings. >> > >> > Geez! >> > >> > David >> New observation: The files I'm moving are music files. I notice that >> the time estimate for the transfer increases considerably when I start >> WMP. Might this have been related to my problems? Mind you, the files >> that were moving slowly were NOT being played but WMP was up and >> running. >> >> Thanks again, >> David >> > I've confirmed that the problem is when I'm connected via Ethernet. >Wirelessly, I'm fine. > >Any thoughts what it might be then? > >Thanks again, >David Differences between Ethernet and WiFi: # Network device drivers. # Network devices. # Cables. # Router ports. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/layered-testing-in-windows-networking.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/layered-testing-in-windows-networking.html When you connect Ethernet, do you do both computers by Ethernet? WiFi? Do you have current drivers / firmware on network devices? Router? Inventory network equipment (make / model), and how everything connects. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html And please, for both our sakes, type your answers after mine. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. When you connect Ethernet, do you do both computers by Ethernet?
WiFi? Please see my network topology at http://www.drschwartz.net/personal/network-topology.jpg As you can hopefully see, T42p connects wirelessy as well as through Ethernet. There's also another Dell laptop that occasionally connects wirelessly that's not shown. Everything else is Ethernet. Please note that the problems I've been describing are between Office and T42p. > Please see the diagram above. As I said before, your content appears to> Do you have current drivers / firmware on network devices? Router? > My router has the latest firmware available as of a month or so ago. > Inventory network equipment (make / model), and how everything connects. focus on lack of connectivity rather than limited throughput. Is this correct? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> Thanks so much for your help on this Chuck!> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > And please, for both our sakes, type your answers after mine. Will do. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting > David >When you connect Ethernet, do you do both computers by Ethernet? David: Please see my network topology atWiFi? http://www.drschwartz.net/personal/network-topology.jpg As you can hopefully see, T42p connects wirelessy as well as through Ethernet. There's also another Dell laptop that occasionally connects wirelessly that's not shown. Everything else is Ethernet. Please note that the problems I've been describing are between Office and T42p. > Do you have current drivers / firmware on network devices? Router? David: My router has the latest firmware available.> Inventory network equipment (make / model), and how everything connects. David: Please see the diagram above. Your content appears tofocus on lack of connectivity rather than limited throughput. Is this correct? > And please, for both our sakes, type your answers after mine. David: Will do.Thanks so much for your help on this Chuck! David
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