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Question about sharing on network with two users same machine....HELP

Author
10 Jun 2005 1:04 PM
Jess <>
Hello

I have a question about sharing on a network.

I am using XP Pro

One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
"always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
on, in order to share on this machine.

P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
dang people that write MS software can use half of it.

Thanks

Jess

Author
10 Jun 2005 4:38 PM
Doug Sherman [MVP]
Well, the user name and password (or lack of one) of the person logged onto
a machine has nothing to do with the user name and password of the person
attempting to access the machine over the network.  Assuming you are using
classic file sharing on your XP Pro machine, create a new user account with
the same user name and password as the person logged onto the remote
machine.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

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<Jess> wrote in message news:ni3ja1p4qreoj02kbqoomr6ptia1v9g837@4ax.com...
> Hello
>
> I have a question about sharing on a network.
>
> I am using XP Pro
>
> One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
> P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
> "always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
> on, in order to share on this machine.
>
> P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
> password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
> network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
> others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
> password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
> make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
> input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
> do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
> dang people that write MS software can use half of it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jess
Author
10 Jun 2005 7:43 PM
Jess <>
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:38:10 -0400, "Doug Sherman [MVP]"
<dsherman@nospamtampabay.rr.com> wrote:

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>Well, the user name and password (or lack of one) of the person logged onto
>a machine has nothing to do with the user name and password of the person
>attempting to access the machine over the network.  Assuming you are using
>classic file sharing on your XP Pro machine, create a new user account with
>the same user name and password as the person logged onto the remote
>machine.
>
>Doug Sherman
>MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>
><Jess> wrote in message news:ni3ja1p4qreoj02kbqoomr6ptia1v9g837@4ax.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I have a question about sharing on a network.
>>
>> I am using XP Pro
>>
>> One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
>> P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
>> "always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
>> on, in order to share on this machine.
>>
>> P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
>> password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
>> network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
>> others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
>> password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
>> make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
>> input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
>> do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
>> dang people that write MS software can use half of it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jess
>

I don't guess I'm explaining myself very well, which can be hard to do
via typing.

This is an office network.  Everyone is using XP sp2.  When the remote
pc tries to login to my shared folders, I do NOT want them to have to
input a user name or password.  That is why I sent up P-2 on my pc
without a password.  I want the other pc's on the network to be able
to access whatever folders I shared without having to input a ID or
password, yet I want to keep my logon (P-1)pass worded so when my pc
is turned on and I'm not here, people can't logon to P-1 but can logon
with the P-2 logon.

This pc was setup as P-1 and now the only way to get to shared folders
through the network, whether they are P-1 shared or P-2 shared,
whether P-1 is logged on or P-2 is logged on, the other pc on the
network requires the user ID and password for P-1. 

HELP if you can!
Author
10 Jun 2005 5:03 PM
Chuck
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:04:44 -0500, Jess <> wrote:

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>Hello
>
>I have a question about sharing on a network.
>
>I am using XP Pro
>
>One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
>P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
>"always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
>on, in order to share on this machine.
>
>P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
>password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
>network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
>others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
>password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
>make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
>input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
>do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
>dang people that write MS software can use half of it.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jess

Jess,

Networking, and protecting what's networked, is complicated.  Microsoft or other
vendor.

Depending upon your operating system on each computer, how your file sharing is
setup, and specifically what resources you need to share, you may be able to use
Guest authentication (password or no password) between your two computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/windows-xp-file-sharing-not-so-simple.html>

For more details, see the Microsoft white paper:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

Want more help?  Provide details about your two computers - operating system
name, version, and Service Pack level.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       sonic      net.
Author
10 Jun 2005 7:44 PM
Jess <>
On 10 Jun 2005 12:03:03 -0500, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote:

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>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:04:44 -0500, Jess <> wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>I have a question about sharing on a network.
>>
>>I am using XP Pro
>>
>>One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
>>P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
>>"always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
>>on, in order to share on this machine.
>>
>>P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
>>password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
>>network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
>>others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
>>password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
>>make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
>>input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
>>do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
>>dang people that write MS software can use half of it.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Jess
>
>Jess,
>
>Networking, and protecting what's networked, is complicated.  Microsoft or other
>vendor.
>
>Depending upon your operating system on each computer, how your file sharing is
>setup, and specifically what resources you need to share, you may be able to use
>Guest authentication (password or no password) between your two computers.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/windows-xp-file-sharing-not-so-simple.html>
>
>For more details, see the Microsoft white paper:
><http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>
>
>Want more help?  Provide details about your two computers - operating system
>name, version, and Service Pack level.


Chuck would you read my response to Dough?

Jess
Author
10 Jun 2005 8:13 PM
Chuck
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:44:35 -0500, Jess <> wrote:

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>On 10 Jun 2005 12:03:03 -0500, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:04:44 -0500, Jess <> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>I have a question about sharing on a network.
>>>
>>>I am using XP Pro
>>>
>>>One machine two users.  P-1 is administrator and set up the machine,
>>>P-2 is a user only.  When going on the network, other machines
>>>"always" have to input a password regardless of which user is logged
>>>on, in order to share on this machine.
>>>
>>>P-1 uses a password to logon to the machine.  P-2 does not require a
>>>password.  I understand that when P-1 is logged on a password on the
>>>network would be required.  I want to be able to logon as P-2 and
>>>others on the network to be able to share without have to input a
>>>password.  What am I doing wrong?  It is a damn shame that MS has to
>>>make networking so damn complicated.  To me it would be so easy to
>>>input a user and have a menu to check off what that user can or can't
>>>do on the machine and network and be done with it.  I doubt that the
>>>dang people that write MS software can use half of it.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Jess
>>
>>Jess,
>>
>>Networking, and protecting what's networked, is complicated.  Microsoft or other
>>vendor.
>>
>>Depending upon your operating system on each computer, how your file sharing is
>>setup, and specifically what resources you need to share, you may be able to use
>>Guest authentication (password or no password) between your two computers.
>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/windows-xp-file-sharing-not-so-simple.html>
>>
>>For more details, see the Microsoft white paper:
>><http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>
>>
>>Want more help?  Provide details about your two computers - operating system
>>name, version, and Service Pack level.
>
>
>Chuck would you read my response to Dough?
>
>Jess

Jess,

You could explain yourself a bit better.  How many computers total on your
network?  If just two, use Guest authentication on your computer.

If you want to give network access to your computer, without requiring a userid
or password, enable Guest for network access on your computer, and set it with
no password.  Then make sure that Guest on the other computer has no password
too.  Don't worry about P-2.

If more than two computers, and you only want to give access to your computer
from that ONE other computer, you'll have to setup an identical account (P-2?)
with NON-blank password on both computers.  If you do that, by logging on to the
second computer with (P-2) non-blank password, the users will only be able to
use their computer, and access your computer remotely, and they'll only have to
enter P-2 userid and password once, when logging in to P-2.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       sonic      net.