"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <e2lLoCvvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I have two computers running Windows XP SP2 with all the latest updates.
>>Both have wireless connection to a router. I'd like to connect them and
>>use
>>on my home network.
>>I know (I think I know) how to add a network place. As a matter of fact I
>>created two. Neither works... Now I'd like to remove (delete) these
>>network
>>places, but could not find any way how to do so...
>>May someone please give me step-by-step instructions or direct me to a
>>manual on the Net?
>>I'll appreciate your help.
>
> In My Network Places, right-click the undesired entry, then click
> Delete in the menu that appears.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:p7pud29i8sd323qdo0a04h18aqm82jkkuj@4ax.com...
>> In article <e2lLoCvvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
>> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>I have two computers running Windows XP SP2 with all the latest updates.
>>>Both have wireless connection to a router. I'd like to connect them and
>>>use
>>>on my home network.
>>>I know (I think I know) how to add a network place. As a matter of fact I
>>>created two. Neither works... Now I'd like to remove (delete) these
>>>network
>>>places, but could not find any way how to do so...
>>>May someone please give me step-by-step instructions or direct me to a
>>>manual on the Net?
>>>I'll appreciate your help.
>>
>> In My Network Places, right-click the undesired entry, then click
>> Delete in the menu that appears.
>
>Steve,
>thanks for your suggestion. Sure, it works fine. However, what I would like
>to do is to delete MSHOME in My Network Places > Entire Network > Microsoft
>Windows Network. When I right click on it, there is no option to Delete...
>I'd like to delete it before building a new network. May you suggest how to
>remove this MSHOME?
>Regards,
>Ilya

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <#ED4IYwvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>news:p7pud29i8sd323qdo0a04h18aqm82jkkuj@4ax.com...
>>> In article <e2lLoCvvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
>>> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>I have two computers running Windows XP SP2 with all the latest updates.
>>>>Both have wireless connection to a router. I'd like to connect them and
>>>>use
>>>>on my home network.
>>>>I know (I think I know) how to add a network place. As a matter of fact
>>>>I
>>>>created two. Neither works... Now I'd like to remove (delete) these
>>>>network
>>>>places, but could not find any way how to do so...
>>>>May someone please give me step-by-step instructions or direct me to a
>>>>manual on the Net?
>>>>I'll appreciate your help.
>>>
>>> In My Network Places, right-click the undesired entry, then click
>>> Delete in the menu that appears.
>>
>>Steve,
>>thanks for your suggestion. Sure, it works fine. However, what I would
>>like
>>to do is to delete MSHOME in My Network Places > Entire Network >
>>Microsoft
>>Windows Network. When I right click on it, there is no option to Delete...
>>I'd like to delete it before building a new network. May you suggest how
>>to
>>remove this MSHOME?
>>Regards,
>>Ilya
>
> You're welcome, Ilya.  MSHOME is a workgroup name, and there's no
> explicit way to delete a workgroup name.
>
> If you changed the workgroup name on all of the computers to something
> else, MSHOME might go away eventually.
>
> Why do you want to delete MSHOME?  It wouldn't make your network work
> any better.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>>>>>I have two computers running Windows XP SP2 with all the latest updates.
>>>>>Both have wireless connection to a router. I'd like to connect them and
>>>>>use
>>>>>on my home network.
>>>>>I know (I think I know) how to add a network place. As a matter of fact
>>>>>I
>>>>>created two. Neither works... Now I'd like to remove (delete) these
>>>>>network
>>>>>places, but could not find any way how to do so...
>>>>>May someone please give me step-by-step instructions or direct me to a
>>>>>manual on the Net?
>>>>>I'll appreciate your help.
>>>>
>>>> In My Network Places, right-click the undesired entry, then click
>>>> Delete in the menu that appears.
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>thanks for your suggestion. Sure, it works fine. However, what I would
>>>like
>>>to do is to delete MSHOME in My Network Places > Entire Network >
>>>Microsoft
>>>Windows Network. When I right click on it, there is no option to Delete...
>>>I'd like to delete it before building a new network. May you suggest how
>>>to
>>>remove this MSHOME?
>>>Regards,
>>>Ilya
>>
>> You're welcome, Ilya.  MSHOME is a workgroup name, and there's no
>> explicit way to delete a workgroup name.
>>
>> If you changed the workgroup name on all of the computers to something
>> else, MSHOME might go away eventually.
>>
>> Why do you want to delete MSHOME?  It wouldn't make your network work
>> any better.
>
>Actually, I don't care about MSHOME per se. What I want is to set up a new,
>working home network and would like to take MSHOME out of the way. The
>MSHOME and new network are for the same computers using the same router etc.
>My concern is they will interfere with each other... Is my concern valid?
>Furthermore, if the second network is not working, then I'd like to set up
>the third etc. How many bad (not working) networks could I have without
>burdening my system?
>Ilya

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:sgavd2p112njsvvdegv8spqgaqah0f61op@4ax.com...
> In article <#TFQ9yxvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You only have one network: the physical connection (router, cables,
> network cards, etc) between the computers.
>
> MSHOME is a workgroup name.  A workgroup is just a logical grouping of
> computers that you can define for organizational purposes.  Workgroups
> have no effect on network access using My Network Places.  A single
> network can have any number of workgroups, and a computer in any
> workgroup can access a computer in any workgroup.
>
> Creating a new workgroup wouldn't create a new network.  There would
> be no advantage to creating a new workgroup, and there would be no
> disadvantage to keeping MSHOME as the workgroup name.
>
> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network
> browsing through My Network Places is inherently unreliable.  You can
> spend a lot of time troubleshooting and trying to fix it, but I don't
> think it's worthwhile.
>
> So, I recommend not using My Network Places at all.  To access a
> shared folder, type its computer name and share name in the Start >
> Run box in this format:
>
>   \\computer\share
>
> To see all of the shared folders on a computer, type:
>
>   \\computer
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>
>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:sgavd2p112njsvvdegv8spqgaqah0f61op@4ax.com...
>> In article <#TFQ9yxvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
>> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> You only have one network: the physical connection (router, cables,
>> network cards, etc) between the computers.
>>
>> MSHOME is a workgroup name.  A workgroup is just a logical grouping of
>> computers that you can define for organizational purposes.  Workgroups
>> have no effect on network access using My Network Places.  A single
>> network can have any number of workgroups, and a computer in any
>> workgroup can access a computer in any workgroup.
>>
>> Creating a new workgroup wouldn't create a new network.  There would
>> be no advantage to creating a new workgroup, and there would be no
>> disadvantage to keeping MSHOME as the workgroup name.
>>
>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network
>> browsing through My Network Places is inherently unreliable.  You can
>> spend a lot of time troubleshooting and trying to fix it, but I don't
>> think it's worthwhile.
>>
>> So, I recommend not using My Network Places at all.  To access a
>> shared folder, type its computer name and share name in the Start >
>> Run box in this format:
>>
>>   \\computer\share
>>
>> To see all of the shared folders on a computer, type:
>>
>>   \\computer
>
>Steve,
>thanks a lot for your explanation. However, I'm afraid, you've overestimated
>my computerability... I understood everything you wrote up to the
>recommendation not to use My Network Places... After that, I was lost. Since
>I have two computers named OLD and NEW, on which one or on both should I run
>this command? Should I create a new network or it is possible to use this
>command on the old network?
>I will appreciate a step-by-step instructions, if it's possible.
>Thanks again for your assistance.
>Ilya

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:klhvd2defkmfeefdnl7q1dhi207gjuesrk@4ax.com...
> In article <#OscjhzvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>news:sgavd2p112njsvvdegv8spqgaqah0f61op@4ax.com...
>>> In article <#TFQ9yxvGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "ilyaz"
>>> <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You only have one network: the physical connection (router, cables,
>>> network cards, etc) between the computers.
>>>
>>> MSHOME is a workgroup name.  A workgroup is just a logical grouping of
>>> computers that you can define for organizational purposes.  Workgroups
>>> have no effect on network access using My Network Places.  A single
>>> network can have any number of workgroups, and a computer in any
>>> workgroup can access a computer in any workgroup.
>>>
>>> Creating a new workgroup wouldn't create a new network.  There would
>>> be no advantage to creating a new workgroup, and there would be no
>>> disadvantage to keeping MSHOME as the workgroup name.
>>>
>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network
>>> browsing through My Network Places is inherently unreliable.  You can
>>> spend a lot of time troubleshooting and trying to fix it, but I don't
>>> think it's worthwhile.
>>>
>>> So, I recommend not using My Network Places at all.  To access a
>>> shared folder, type its computer name and share name in the Start >
>>> Run box in this format:
>>>
>>>   \\computer\share
>>>
>>> To see all of the shared folders on a computer, type:
>>>
>>>   \\computer
>>
>>Steve,
>>thanks a lot for your explanation. However, I'm afraid, you've
>>overestimated
>>my computerability... I understood everything you wrote up to the
>>recommendation not to use My Network Places... After that, I was lost.
>>Since
>>I have two computers named OLD and NEW, on which one or on both should I
>>run
>>this command? Should I create a new network or it is possible to use this
>>command on the old network?
>>I will appreciate a step-by-step instructions, if it's possible.
>>Thanks again for your assistance.
>>Ilya
>
> You're welcome, Ilya.  Changing the workgroup name wouldn't create a
> new network.  Workgroups and network are completely different things.
> You can't create a new network, and you don't need to.  The workgroup
> name(s) that you assign to your computers are completely irrelevant.
>
> When you're sitting at the computer named OLD and you want to view the
> shared disks and folders that belong to the computer named NEW:
>
> 1. Click the Start button.
>
> 2. Click "Run" in the Start menu.
>
> 3. Type this in the "Open" box, then click the OK button:
>
>   \\NEW
>
> When you're sitting at the computer named NEW and you want to view the
> shared disks and folders that belong to the computer named OLD:
>
> 1. Click the Start button.
>
> 2. Click "Run" in the Start menu.
>
> 3. Type this in the "Open" box, then click the OK button:
>
>   \\OLD
>
> If "Run" doesn't appear in the Start menu, add it:
>
> 1. Right-click the Start button.
>
> 2. Click Properties.
>
> 3. Click Customize.
>
> 4. Click Advanced.
>
> 5. Scroll down the list of start menu items and put a check mark in
> the box "Run command".
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>>>>> You only have one network: the physical connection (router, cables,
>>>> network cards, etc) between the computers.
>>>>
>>>> MSHOME is a workgroup name.  A workgroup is just a logical grouping of
>>>> computers that you can define for organizational purposes.  Workgroups
>>>> have no effect on network access using My Network Places.  A single
>>>> network can have any number of workgroups, and a computer in any
>>>> workgroup can access a computer in any workgroup.
>>>>
>>>> Creating a new workgroup wouldn't create a new network.  There would
>>>> be no advantage to creating a new workgroup, and there would be no
>>>> disadvantage to keeping MSHOME as the workgroup name.
>>>>
>>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network
>>>> browsing through My Network Places is inherently unreliable.  You can
>>>> spend a lot of time troubleshooting and trying to fix it, but I don't
>>>> think it's worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> So, I recommend not using My Network Places at all.  To access a
>>>> shared folder, type its computer name and share name in the Start >
>>>> Run box in this format:
>>>>
>>>>   \\computer\share
>>>>
>>>> To see all of the shared folders on a computer, type:
>>>>
>>>>   \\computer
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>thanks a lot for your explanation. However, I'm afraid, you've
>>>overestimated
>>>my computerability... I understood everything you wrote up to the
>>>recommendation not to use My Network Places... After that, I was lost.
>>>Since
>>>I have two computers named OLD and NEW, on which one or on both should I
>>>run
>>>this command? Should I create a new network or it is possible to use this
>>>command on the old network?
>>>I will appreciate a step-by-step instructions, if it's possible.
>>>Thanks again for your assistance.
>>>Ilya
>>
>> You're welcome, Ilya.  Changing the workgroup name wouldn't create a
>> new network.  Workgroups and network are completely different things.
>> You can't create a new network, and you don't need to.  The workgroup
>> name(s) that you assign to your computers are completely irrelevant.
>>
>> When you're sitting at the computer named OLD and you want to view the
>> shared disks and folders that belong to the computer named NEW:
>>
>> 1. Click the Start button.
>>
>> 2. Click "Run" in the Start menu.
>>
>> 3. Type this in the "Open" box, then click the OK button:
>>
>>   \\NEW
>>
>> When you're sitting at the computer named NEW and you want to view the
>> shared disks and folders that belong to the computer named OLD:
>>
>> 1. Click the Start button.
>>
>> 2. Click "Run" in the Start menu.
>>
>> 3. Type this in the "Open" box, then click the OK button:
>>
>>   \\OLD
>>
>> If "Run" doesn't appear in the Start menu, add it:
>>
>> 1. Right-click the Start button.
>>
>> 2. Click Properties.
>>
>> 3. Click Customize.
>>
>> 4. Click Advanced.
>>
>> 5. Scroll down the list of start menu items and put a check mark in
>> the box "Run command".
>
>Steve,
>this was my level! Thanks! Sure, it worked after some tweaking... First,
>when I entered just OLD, I got an error "Old not found". But then I browsed
>to MSHOME and from there was able to open the C:\ drive (I set sharing C:\
>drives on both machines). Although I can open some folders on C:\, the
>access denied to the files. For instance, I can open Documents and Settings,
>but when I tried Owner - access was denied... Do I need to change
>permissions for every folder on my HD?
>Regards,
>Ilya

> To access the computer named OLD directly, without using My Network
> Places, type the line in the Start > Run box exactly as I showed it,
> including the two backslash characters:
>
>   \\OLD
>
> By design, Windows XP blocks networked access to these folders:
>
> 1. Program Files.
> 2. Windows.
> 3. Individual users' folders (such as Owner) within Documents and
> Settings.
>
> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, the best solution is to put
> documents that you want to share in the Shared Documents folder.  To
> create the Shared Documents folder, run the Network Setup Wizard.
>
> If you have Windows XP Professional, you can disable simple file
> sharing, which removes those sharing restrictions:
>
> 1. Open My Computer and click Tools | Folder Options | View.
> 2. Scroll to the end of the advanced settings.
> 3. Un-check "Use simple file sharing (recommended)".
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"ilyaz" <ilya***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Steve,
> it seems that I'm deeper in the woods than ever... Yesterday, I told you
> that I was able to reach the C:\ drive on both computers. But this was
> yesterday. Today, it's a different story.
> I'm unable to reach another computer from both machines. No matter what I
> do, I go nowhere. Typing \\OLD causes an error "The network path was not
> found". Using "my way" - typing \\OLD and then browse to My Network Places
> and drilling to MSHOME, causes the error "Access denied..."
> For some reason, something went wrong...
> What would you suggest: to clean this mess somehow and start from the
> scratch, or disregard this and start a new network, or forgetaboutit and
> use two separate comps...
> Your advice is appreciated.
> Ilya
> P.S. I have Win XP Home Edition. Typed \\OLD in the Run as you directed...
> Could not get through... Will try again...
>
>> To access the computer named OLD directly, without using My Network
>> Places, type the line in the Start > Run box exactly as I showed it,
>> including the two backslash characters:
>>
>>   \\OLD
>>
>> By design, Windows XP blocks networked access to these folders:
>>
>> 1. Program Files.
>> 2. Windows.
>> 3. Individual users' folders (such as Owner) within Documents and
>> Settings.
>>
>> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, the best solution is to put
>> documents that you want to share in the Shared Documents folder.  To
>> create the Shared Documents folder, run the Network Setup Wizard.
>>
>> If you have Windows XP Professional, you can disable simple file
>> sharing, which removes those sharing restrictions:
>>
>> 1. Open My Computer and click Tools | Folder Options | View.
>> 2. Scroll to the end of the advanced settings.
>> 3. Un-check "Use simple file sharing (recommended)".
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>