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Author
18 Aug 2006 3:49 AM
Paul Heymont
While on vacation, I tried to add my laptop (XP, SP2) to a friend's network
(workgroup) via WiFi. The internet connection was fine, but no matter how
many times we ran the Network Setup Wizard, rebooted, tore out hair, we never
succeeded. Also tried using wired ethernet.

I figured it was something with his setup, but now I'm home, and can't
connect to my own workgroup! Repeated all the steps, tried everything I could
think of, but Entire Network/Windows Network/JP only shows the laptop. When I
go to any of the other three groups in the JP workgroup, they show the
laptop, but get message that they do not have permission to access it
(although all drives are shared).

Tried (from the laptop) mapping a network drive; got the message that no
network could be found.

I feel like I'm one step away from the solution...but I can't see where it
is. I'd appreciate any help I can get!

Thanks!
Paul Heymont

Author
18 Aug 2006 5:35 AM
Chuck
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:49:01 -0700, Paul Heymont <p***@heymoux.net.(donotspam)>
wrote:

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>While on vacation, I tried to add my laptop (XP, SP2) to a friend's network
>(workgroup) via WiFi. The internet connection was fine, but no matter how
>many times we ran the Network Setup Wizard, rebooted, tore out hair, we never
>succeeded. Also tried using wired ethernet.
>
>I figured it was something with his setup, but now I'm home, and can't
>connect to my own workgroup! Repeated all the steps, tried everything I could
>think of, but Entire Network/Windows Network/JP only shows the laptop. When I
>go to any of the other three groups in the JP workgroup, they show the
>laptop, but get message that they do not have permission to access it
>(although all drives are shared).
>
>Tried (from the laptop) mapping a network drive; got the message that no
>network could be found.
>
>I feel like I'm one step away from the solution...but I can't see where it
>is. I'd appreciate any help I can get!
>
>Thanks!
>Paul Heymont

Paul,

One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several
other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this
article with an open mind.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Or you could look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server",
and "net config workstation", from the laptop, and from 2 other computers, and
diagnose the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
19 Aug 2006 2:16 AM
Paul Heymont
Chuck....

Thanks for the reply. I've been checking out the various suggestions and
trying them, but I haven't gotten lucky yet.

Attached are the ipconfig /all results from a desktop and from the laptop.
The only real difference I can see is that the node type on the laptop is
unknown, and on the desktop hybrid (true of other desktop as well)

I added the Node Type key in regedit, as suggested; no matter whether I set
the value as 1 for broadcast, or 8 for hybrid, it still comes up after reboot
as unknown.

I added an enable proxy key (since removed) as suggested in one of the
articles, but that didn't change anything, so I removed it.

What steps do you suggest next?

Thanks!



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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:49:01 -0700, Paul Heymont <p***@heymoux.net.(donotspam)>
> wrote:
>
> >While on vacation, I tried to add my laptop (XP, SP2) to a friend's network
> >(workgroup) via WiFi. The internet connection was fine, but no matter how
> >many times we ran the Network Setup Wizard, rebooted, tore out hair, we never
> >succeeded. Also tried using wired ethernet.
> >
> >I figured it was something with his setup, but now I'm home, and can't
> >connect to my own workgroup! Repeated all the steps, tried everything I could
> >think of, but Entire Network/Windows Network/JP only shows the laptop. When I
> >go to any of the other three groups in the JP workgroup, they show the
> >laptop, but get message that they do not have permission to access it
> >(although all drives are shared).
> >
> >Tried (from the laptop) mapping a network drive; got the message that no
> >network could be found.
> >
> >I feel like I'm one step away from the solution...but I can't see where it
> >is. I'd appreciate any help I can get!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Paul Heymont
>
> Paul,
>
> One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
> overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several
> other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this
> article with an open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> Or you could look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server",
> and "net config workstation", from the laptop, and from 2 other computers, and
> diagnose the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
> instructions precisely (download browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
Author
19 Aug 2006 2:33 AM
Paul Heymont
Another piece of the puzzle...I just pulled the WiFi card, plugged in a
cable, and can see desktop...node type is still "unknown"

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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:49:01 -0700, Paul Heymont <p***@heymoux.net.(donotspam)>
> wrote:
>
> >While on vacation, I tried to add my laptop (XP, SP2) to a friend's network
> >(workgroup) via WiFi. The internet connection was fine, but no matter how
> >many times we ran the Network Setup Wizard, rebooted, tore out hair, we never
> >succeeded. Also tried using wired ethernet.
> >
> >I figured it was something with his setup, but now I'm home, and can't
> >connect to my own workgroup! Repeated all the steps, tried everything I could
> >think of, but Entire Network/Windows Network/JP only shows the laptop. When I
> >go to any of the other three groups in the JP workgroup, they show the
> >laptop, but get message that they do not have permission to access it
> >(although all drives are shared).
> >
> >Tried (from the laptop) mapping a network drive; got the message that no
> >network could be found.
> >
> >I feel like I'm one step away from the solution...but I can't see where it
> >is. I'd appreciate any help I can get!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Paul Heymont
>
> Paul,
>
> One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
> overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several
> other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this
> article with an open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> Or you could look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server",
> and "net config workstation", from the laptop, and from 2 other computers, and
> diagnose the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
> instructions precisely (download browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
Author
19 Aug 2006 2:37 AM
Paul Heymont
And I forgot to include the configs. First laptop, then desktop.

Laptop
Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DELLTWO

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-36-5C-DC



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : myhome.westell.com

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630
Wireless Cardbus Adapter #5

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-95-4A-0D-B3

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.103

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 18, 2006 10:02:36
PM

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, August 19, 2006
10:02:36 PM



And the desktop


Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PHm

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : myhome.westell.com

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-D4-CE-E2-F6

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.101

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 18, 2006 10:35:27
AM

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, August 19, 2006
10:35:27 AM

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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:49:01 -0700, Paul Heymont <p***@heymoux.net.(donotspam)>
> wrote:
>
> >While on vacation, I tried to add my laptop (XP, SP2) to a friend's network
> >(workgroup) via WiFi. The internet connection was fine, but no matter how
> >many times we ran the Network Setup Wizard, rebooted, tore out hair, we never
> >succeeded. Also tried using wired ethernet.
> >
> >I figured it was something with his setup, but now I'm home, and can't
> >connect to my own workgroup! Repeated all the steps, tried everything I could
> >think of, but Entire Network/Windows Network/JP only shows the laptop. When I
> >go to any of the other three groups in the JP workgroup, they show the
> >laptop, but get message that they do not have permission to access it
> >(although all drives are shared).
> >
> >Tried (from the laptop) mapping a network drive; got the message that no
> >network could be found.
> >
> >I feel like I'm one step away from the solution...but I can't see where it
> >is. I'd appreciate any help I can get!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Paul Heymont
>
> Paul,
>
> One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
> overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several
> other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this
> article with an open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> Or you could look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server",
> and "net config workstation", from the laptop, and from 2 other computers, and
> diagnose the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
> instructions precisely (download browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>