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One computer connects to web all the time, other on occasionsI have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it
works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but wanted to know at least a starting point on this. Thanks Craig When the computer can't access the internet, can you ping a public IP? If yes, can you ping yahoo.com? This troubleshooting may help,
How to troubleshoot internet access issues How to troubleshoot the Internet Access issues. You just setup a network and all networking computers can see each other. However, you have one of some ... www.howtonetworking.com/Internet/internetaccess0.htm Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Craig" <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7DB601D5-420C-478F-933F-D0035DD64063@microsoft.com... I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but wanted to know at least a starting point on this. Thanks Craig I am not able to ping a public IP, only my ISP router, and my other computer
on the internal network. But, as I said in my other post to Chuck, I changed the MTU on my computer, to match the MTU on the "good" computer. That did not work. But my ASUS motherboard has 2 onboard network adapters, I changed to that one, and it worked. I do not know if this is a permanent fix or not, but for the moment it is working. Thanks for the quick response. Craig Show quoteHide quote "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote: > When the computer can't access the internet, can you ping a public IP? If yes, can you ping yahoo.com? This troubleshooting may help, > > How to troubleshoot internet access issues How to troubleshoot the Internet Access issues. You just setup a network and all networking computers can see each other. However, you have one of some ... > www.howtonetworking.com/Internet/internetaccess0.htm > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com > "Craig" <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7DB601D5-420C-478F-933F-D0035DD64063@microsoft.com... > I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it > works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running > Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. > My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get > DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket > VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT > interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, > works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not > hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can > connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is > that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can > access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but > wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > > Thanks > Craig > Thank you for the feedback. Post back if you have any issues.
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Craig" <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A6419B6-D221-4AF4-9A1E-C26A446E1C2A@microsoft.com... I am not able to ping a public IP, only my ISP router, and my other computer on the internal network. But, as I said in my other post to Chuck, I changed the MTU on my computer, to match the MTU on the "good" computer. That did not work. But my ASUS motherboard has 2 onboard network adapters, I changed to that one, and it worked. I do not know if this is a permanent fix or not, but for the moment it is working. Thanks for the quick response. Craig Show quoteHide quote "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote: > When the computer can't access the internet, can you ping a public IP? If yes, can you ping yahoo.com? This troubleshooting may help, > > How to troubleshoot internet access issues How to troubleshoot the Internet Access issues. You just setup a network and all networking computers can see each other. However, you have one of some ... > www.howtonetworking.com/Internet/internetaccess0.htm > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com > "Craig" <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7DB601D5-420C-478F-933F-D0035DD64063@microsoft.com... > I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it > works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running > Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. > My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get > DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket > VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT > interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, > works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not > hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can > connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is > that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can > access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but > wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > > Thanks > Craig > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:45:22 -0700, Craig <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote: Show quoteHide quote >I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it Craig,>works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running >Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. >My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get >DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket >VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT >interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, >works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not >hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can >connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is >that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can >access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but >wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > >Thanks >Craig From what you've described, an MTU setting is a good candidate. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html If that's not it, try and describe "sometimes I can connect to the internet, other times I cannot" in a bit more detail. How often does this problem occur? Any pattern to it? Have you tried the same website from the other computer, when you're having this problem with any website on this computer? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Well, it is working now. I changed the MTU on my computer, to match the MTU
on the "good" computer. It did not work. But my ASUS motherboard has 2 onboard network adapters, I changed to that one, and it worked. I do not know if this is a permanent fix or not, but for the moment it is working. Thanks for the quick response. Craig Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:45:22 -0700, Craig <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: > > >I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it > >works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running > >Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. > >My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get > >DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket > >VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT > >interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, > >works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not > >hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can > >connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is > >that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can > >access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but > >wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > > > >Thanks > >Craig > > Craig, > > From what you've described, an MTU setting is a good candidate. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html > > If that's not it, try and describe "sometimes I can connect to the internet, > other times I cannot" in a bit more detail. How often does this problem occur? > Any pattern to it? Have you tried the same website from the other computer, > when you're having this problem with any website on this computer? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > In article <7DB601D5-420C-478F-933F-D0035DD64***@microsoft.com>, Craig
<Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it When the problem occurs, can the unreliable computer access some web>works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running >Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. >My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get >DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket >VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT >interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, >works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not >hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can >connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is >that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can >access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but >wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > >Thanks >Craig sites but not others? If so, this could fix it: 1. Find the right MTU setting, as shown here: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107 2. Make the setting manually on the client computers, or use DrTCP to make it: http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html Otherwise, please reply with full details of the problem. We only know as much as you tell us. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Appreciate the help Steve, I changed the MTU on my computer, to match the
MTU on the "good" computer. It did not work. But my ASUS motherboard has 2 onboard network adapters, I changed to that one, and it worked. I do not know if this is a permanent fix or not, but for the moment it is working. Craig Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: > In article <7DB601D5-420C-478F-933F-D0035DD64***@microsoft.com>, Craig > <Cr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >I have 2 computers on my home network, connected in a complicated way, but it > >works reliably for one computer and not the other. Both computers running > >Windows XP Pro, SP2 and all of the latest updates. > >My setup is thus, from ISP a wireless radio router from my ISP (I can't get > >DSL, cable or other here, so have to go this way), connected to a Sunrocket > >VOIP router, connected to a Belkin Wireless router. So I have a couple of NAT > >interfaces inbetween me and the internet. However, the computer I am on now, > >works reliably and has yet to give me any problems. The other computer, not > >hardware identical, but software it is pretty much identical, sometimes I can > >connect to the internet, other times I cannot. The other strange things is > >that the other computer is always on the internal networks, which means I can > >access files from either computer. I'll gladly give more information, but > >wanted to know at least a starting point on this. > > > >Thanks > >Craig > > When the problem occurs, can the unreliable computer access some web > sites but not others? If so, this could fix it: > > 1. Find the right MTU setting, as shown here: > > http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107 > > 2. Make the setting manually on the client computers, or use > DrTCP to make it: > > http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html > > Otherwise, please reply with full details of the problem. We only > know as much as you tell us. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >
unable to connect to Internet, but getting a valid 192.168 address
Limited or no connectivity (tried everything on pchuck's, out of ideas) Laptop can't join/rejoin workgroup Cannot access or change local shared folder one way share Users work folder reset - contents deleted PLEASE HELP!!!! VPN PPTP problem, but no apparent routing issues. A virus has disabled my internet connection Alright... Network PC's for Printer Sharing Only |
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