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View Workgroup ComputersI have a small home network connected as follows: - My Desktop (Server) wired - My Laptop (Client) wireless - One Printer - Linksys router WAG354G V.2 - OS on both computers: WXP Pro SP2 fully updated Both computers have a static IP address. I have shared the printer and a few folders in my desktop, of course the workgroup name is the same on both machines. I also configured my firewall (ZA free edition) and the result is OK, from my laptop I can share the printer and access the folders on my desktop. The question is the following: If I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon of my laptop but not my desktop. I read on some forums that this is because I don't use the NetBEUI protocol, but I also read that while it might solve the problem, it opens to security issues. In addition, being both OS WXP Pro, I should not have any problem and that using TCP/IP should be fine. This is the theory, the reality is what I described above. Can anybody help me to solve the dilemma? Thank you Alex In article <O4DFkF9wGHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Metallo"
<doria***@pandora.be> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Hi, TCP/IP is the only protocol you need. NetBEUI is an un-supported> >I have a small home network connected as follows: > >- My Desktop (Server) wired >- My Laptop (Client) wireless >- One Printer >- Linksys router WAG354G V.2 >- OS on both computers: WXP Pro SP2 fully updated > >Both computers have a static IP address. > >I have shared the printer and a few folders in my desktop, of course the >workgroup name is the same on both machines. >I also configured my firewall (ZA free edition) and the result is OK, from >my laptop I can share the printer and access the folders on my desktop. > >The question is the following: >If I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon of >my laptop but not my desktop. > >I read on some forums that this is because I don't use the NetBEUI protocol, >but I also read that while it might solve the problem, it opens to security >issues. >In addition, being both OS WXP Pro, I should not have any problem and that >using TCP/IP should be fine. >This is the theory, the reality is what I described above. > >Can anybody help me to solve the dilemma? > >Thank you >Alex protocol in Windows XP. Microsoft wouldn't have dropped support for NetBEUI if Windows XP networking required it. In fact, no version of Windows has ever required NetBEUI for networking. I've written about it on this web page: Windows XP Network Protocols http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm On each computer, make sure that: 1. In the local area connection properties, there are check marks in the boxes for "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" and "Client for Microsoft Networks". 2. Any firewall program is configured to allow access by other computers on the local network. 3. The Server service is running and is configured to start automatically. 4. NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled: a. Open the Network Connections folder. b. Right click the local area network connection. c. Click Properties. d. Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). e. Click Properties. f. Click Advanced. g. Click WINS. h. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. If those suggestions don't help, try accessing the other computer directly, without using My Network Places. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in the box in this format, and click OK: \\computer If that fails, see whether the computers can ping each other, by IP address and by name. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message Hi Steve,news:jrvee21g4um1v75iisofv35jnefdmssno1@4ax.com... > In article <O4DFkF9wGHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" > <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have a small home network connected as follows: >> >>- My Desktop (Server) wired >>- My Laptop (Client) wireless >>- One Printer >>- Linksys router WAG354G V.2 >>- OS on both computers: WXP Pro SP2 fully updated >> >>Both computers have a static IP address. >> >>I have shared the printer and a few folders in my desktop, of course the >>workgroup name is the same on both machines. >>I also configured my firewall (ZA free edition) and the result is OK, from >>my laptop I can share the printer and access the folders on my desktop. >> >>The question is the following: >>If I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >>If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon >>of >>my laptop but not my desktop. >> >>I read on some forums that this is because I don't use the NetBEUI >>protocol, >>but I also read that while it might solve the problem, it opens to >>security >>issues. >>In addition, being both OS WXP Pro, I should not have any problem and that >>using TCP/IP should be fine. >>This is the theory, the reality is what I described above. >> >>Can anybody help me to solve the dilemma? >> >>Thank you >>Alex > > TCP/IP is the only protocol you need. NetBEUI is an un-supported > protocol in Windows XP. Microsoft wouldn't have dropped support for > NetBEUI if Windows XP networking required it. In fact, no version of > Windows has ever required NetBEUI for networking. I've written about > it on this web page: > > Windows XP Network Protocols > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm > > On each computer, make sure that: > > 1. In the local area connection properties, there are check marks in > the boxes for "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" and > "Client for Microsoft Networks". > > 2. Any firewall program is configured to allow access by other > computers on the local network. > > 3. The Server service is running and is configured to start > automatically. > > 4. NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled: > > a. Open the Network Connections folder. > b. Right click the local area network connection. > c. Click Properties. > d. Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). > e. Click Properties. > f. Click Advanced. > g. Click WINS. > h. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. > > If those suggestions don't help, try accessing the other computer > directly, without using My Network Places. Click Start > Run, type > the other computer's name in the box in this format, and click OK: > > \\computer > > If that fails, see whether the computers can ping each other, by IP > address and by name. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thank you for your suggestions. The only thing that was not enabled was the NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button, all the rest was already as you mentioned. Maybe, I was not clear with my previous mail, the two PCs communicate without problems, they can ping each other and I can share the printer and see the folders. My problem is that I cannot see the icons if: I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon of my laptop but not my desktop. I believe I should see both PCs on both machines, or not? One point, if I type \\computer in Run, I get an error: "No Network provider accepted the given network path" This is very strange as well, as I said the two PCs ping each other. My router has the DHCP server enabled and I use static IP addresses in both PCs. What to do? Thanks Alex In article <#iceTAExGHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "Metallo"
<doria***@pandora.be> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >>>Hi, You're welcome, Metallo.>>> >>>I have a small home network connected as follows: >>> >>>- My Desktop (Server) wired >>>- My Laptop (Client) wireless >>>- One Printer >>>- Linksys router WAG354G V.2 >>>- OS on both computers: WXP Pro SP2 fully updated >>> >>>Both computers have a static IP address. >>> >>>I have shared the printer and a few folders in my desktop, of course the >>>workgroup name is the same on both machines. >>>I also configured my firewall (ZA free edition) and the result is OK, from >>>my laptop I can share the printer and access the folders on my desktop. >>> >>>The question is the following: >>>If I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >>>If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon >>>of my laptop but not my desktop. >>> >>>I read on some forums that this is because I don't use the NetBEUI >>>protocol, >>>but I also read that while it might solve the problem, it opens to >>>security >>>issues. >>>In addition, being both OS WXP Pro, I should not have any problem and that >>>using TCP/IP should be fine. >>>This is the theory, the reality is what I described above. >>> >>>Can anybody help me to solve the dilemma? >>> >>>Thank you >>>Alex >> >> TCP/IP is the only protocol you need. NetBEUI is an un-supported >> protocol in Windows XP. Microsoft wouldn't have dropped support for >> NetBEUI if Windows XP networking required it. In fact, no version of >> Windows has ever required NetBEUI for networking. I've written about >> it on this web page: >> >> Windows XP Network Protocols >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm >> >> On each computer, make sure that: >> >> 1. In the local area connection properties, there are check marks in >> the boxes for "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" and >> "Client for Microsoft Networks". >> >> 2. Any firewall program is configured to allow access by other >> computers on the local network. >> >> 3. The Server service is running and is configured to start >> automatically. >> >> 4. NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled: >> >> a. Open the Network Connections folder. >> b. Right click the local area network connection. >> c. Click Properties. >> d. Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). >> e. Click Properties. >> f. Click Advanced. >> g. Click WINS. >> h. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. >> >> If those suggestions don't help, try accessing the other computer >> directly, without using My Network Places. Click Start > Run, type >> the other computer's name in the box in this format, and click OK: >> >> \\computer >> >> If that fails, see whether the computers can ping each other, by IP >> address and by name. > >Hi Steve, > >Thank you for your suggestions. > >The only thing that was not enabled was the NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button, all >the rest was already as you mentioned. >Maybe, I was not clear with my previous mail, the two PCs communicate >without problems, they can ping each other and I can share the printer and >see the folders. > >My problem is that I cannot see the icons if: > >I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon of >my laptop but not my desktop. > >I believe I should see both PCs on both machines, or not? > >One point, if I type \\computer in Run, I get an error: "No Network provider >accepted the given network path" >This is very strange as well, as I said the two PCs ping each other. > >My router has the DHCP server enabled and I use static IP addresses in both >PCs. > >What to do? > >Thanks >Alex As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network Places if you want to. Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? For example: ping 192.168.1.101 ping desktop If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall components. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Hi Steve,
Here's the answer to your questions below: > Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name.> For example: > > ping 192.168.1.101 > ping desktop The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, the name of my desktop is WXP) NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless connections. > Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name , > them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a > misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably > causing the problem. on both PCs. Does either computer have a recent version of > Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both machines. Mistery or WXP? Thanks Alex Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:mgahe2h34p98n4p2bpko4ppav0qh23lhps@4ax.com... > In article <#iceTAExGHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" > <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>I have a small home network connected as follows: >>>> >>>>- My Desktop (Server) wired >>>>- My Laptop (Client) wireless >>>>- One Printer >>>>- Linksys router WAG354G V.2 >>>>- OS on both computers: WXP Pro SP2 fully updated >>>> >>>>Both computers have a static IP address. >>>> >>>>I have shared the printer and a few folders in my desktop, of course the >>>>workgroup name is the same on both machines. >>>>I also configured my firewall (ZA free edition) and the result is OK, >>>>from >>>>my laptop I can share the printer and access the folders on my desktop. >>>> >>>>The question is the following: >>>>If I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >>>>If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon >>>>of my laptop but not my desktop. >>>> >>>>I read on some forums that this is because I don't use the NetBEUI >>>>protocol, >>>>but I also read that while it might solve the problem, it opens to >>>>security >>>>issues. >>>>In addition, being both OS WXP Pro, I should not have any problem and >>>>that >>>>using TCP/IP should be fine. >>>>This is the theory, the reality is what I described above. >>>> >>>>Can anybody help me to solve the dilemma? >>>> >>>>Thank you >>>>Alex >>> >>> TCP/IP is the only protocol you need. NetBEUI is an un-supported >>> protocol in Windows XP. Microsoft wouldn't have dropped support for >>> NetBEUI if Windows XP networking required it. In fact, no version of >>> Windows has ever required NetBEUI for networking. I've written about >>> it on this web page: >>> >>> Windows XP Network Protocols >>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm >>> >>> On each computer, make sure that: >>> >>> 1. In the local area connection properties, there are check marks in >>> the boxes for "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" and >>> "Client for Microsoft Networks". >>> >>> 2. Any firewall program is configured to allow access by other >>> computers on the local network. >>> >>> 3. The Server service is running and is configured to start >>> automatically. >>> >>> 4. NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled: >>> >>> a. Open the Network Connections folder. >>> b. Right click the local area network connection. >>> c. Click Properties. >>> d. Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). >>> e. Click Properties. >>> f. Click Advanced. >>> g. Click WINS. >>> h. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. >>> >>> If those suggestions don't help, try accessing the other computer >>> directly, without using My Network Places. Click Start > Run, type >>> the other computer's name in the box in this format, and click OK: >>> >>> \\computer >>> >>> If that fails, see whether the computers can ping each other, by IP >>> address and by name. >> >>Hi Steve, >> >>Thank you for your suggestions. >> >>The only thing that was not enabled was the NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button, >>all >>the rest was already as you mentioned. >>Maybe, I was not clear with my previous mail, the two PCs communicate >>without problems, they can ping each other and I can share the printer and >>see the folders. >> >>My problem is that I cannot see the icons if: >> >>I click "View Workgroup Computers" on my desktop, I see nothing >>If I click ""View Workgroup Computers" on my laptop, I see only the icon >>of >>my laptop but not my desktop. >> >>I believe I should see both PCs on both machines, or not? >> >>One point, if I type \\computer in Run, I get an error: "No Network >>provider >>accepted the given network path" >>This is very strange as well, as I said the two PCs ping each other. >> >>My router has the DHCP server enabled and I use static IP addresses in >>both >>PCs. >> >>What to do? >> >>Thanks >>Alex > > You're welcome, Metallo. > > As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network > browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that > I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by > typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After > access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network > Places if you want to. > > Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? > For example: > > ping 192.168.1.101 > ping desktop > > If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with > name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set > NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". > > Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing > them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a > misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably > causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of > Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall > components. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo"
<doria***@pandora.be> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >> [snip] I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >> Places if you want to. >> >> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >> For example: >> >> ping 192.168.1.101 >> ping desktop >> >> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >> >> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >> components. > >Hi Steve, > >Here's the answer to your questions below: > >> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >> For example: >> >> ping 192.168.1.101 >> ping desktop > >The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, the >name of my desktop is WXP) > >NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >connections. > >> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >> causing the problem. > >Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name , >on both PCs. > >>Does either computer have a recent version of >>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? > >Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >machines. > >Mistery or WXP? > >Thanks >Alex one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to ping the desktop. Is that right? Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the network. I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the problem. Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Hi Steve,
I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to ping the desktop. Is that right? Yes, the laptop fails to ping the desktop if I use the name, but it pings if I use the IP address. > Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with 100% sure.> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If > you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the > network. > I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while I can try, but the firewall of my router is disabled, as well as the one in > troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as > a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the > problem. windows xp, does it make sense to try? > Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To No relevant messages.> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | > Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. I repeat, everything works perfectly in the network, how could ZA be the problem if the network works? It's just the icons in My Network Places and the ping by name laptop -> desktop that do not work. I'll give a try anyway without ZA and come back. Alex Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... > In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" > <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>> [snip] >>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>> Places if you want to. >>> >>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>> For example: >>> >>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>> ping desktop >>> >>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>> >>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>> components. >> >>Hi Steve, >> >>Here's the answer to your questions below: >> >>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>> For example: >>> >>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>> ping desktop >> >>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>the >>name of my desktop is WXP) >> >>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>connections. >> >>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>> causing the problem. >> >>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name , >>on both PCs. >> >>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >> >>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>machines. >> >>Mistery or WXP? >> >>Thanks >>Alex > > I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other > one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to > ping the desktop. Is that right? > > Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with > Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If > you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the > network. > > I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while > troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as > a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the > problem. > > Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To > run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | > Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: > > HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve,
I uninstalled ZA from both PCs, tried to ping each other, same result, maybe even worse given that the desktop can only ping using the IP address, it failed when tried the laptop name. As far as the view on My Network Places, the same as before, nothing on my desktop, only the laptop icon on the laptop. Now I go back and reinstall/configure ZA, waiting for new instructions if you have more... Thanks Alex Show quoteHide quote "Metallo" <doria***@pandora.be> wrote in message news:exdXwJSxGHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi Steve, > > I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other > one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to > ping the desktop. Is that right? > > Yes, the laptop fails to ping the desktop if I use the name, but it pings > if I use the IP address. > >> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >> network. > > 100% sure. > >> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >> problem. > > I can try, but the firewall of my router is disabled, as well as the one > in windows xp, does it make sense to try? > >> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. > > No relevant messages. > > I repeat, everything works perfectly in the network, how could ZA be the > problem if the network works? > It's just the icons in My Network Places and the ping by name laptop -> > desktop that do not work. > > I'll give a try anyway without ZA and come back. > > Alex > > > "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... >> In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" >> <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>> [snip] >>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>>> Places if you want to. >>>> >>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>> ping desktop >>>> >>>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>>> >>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>>> components. >>> >>>Hi Steve, >>> >>>Here's the answer to your questions below: >>> >>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>> ping desktop >>> >>>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>>the >>>name of my desktop is WXP) >>> >>>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>>connections. >>> >>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>> causing the problem. >>> >>>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name >>>, >>>on both PCs. >>> >>>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >>> >>>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>>machines. >>> >>>Mistery or WXP? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Alex >> >> I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other >> one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to >> ping the desktop. Is that right? >> >> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >> network. >> >> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >> problem. >> >> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: >> >> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 >> -- >> Best Wishes, >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > > I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Metallo"
<doria***@pandora.be> opened his gob and said: >I uninstalled ZA from both PCs PMFJI, but I have heard that ZA services/processes can still bepresent even after a supposedly successful uninstall. Is there anything in task manager, under 'image name' that starts with 'vs'? -- Cheers, Guy ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights ** out of someone who richly deserves it. Well, right now I see vsmon.exe, but to my knowledge, this is an essential
component of ZA... and now I have installed ZA again, therefore it should be there. I do not understand why you seem so worried about ZA creating the issue I have, as I see it, everything works fine, except the fact that the icons do not appear in My Network Places and pinging by name, so how can ZA influence this? My feeling is more something else doesn't work in WXP, but that is only my feeling and I have no way to prove it, that's why I'm trying to discover the reason with the help of this forum. Thanks man Alex Show quoteHide quote "Dr Teeth" <no.email.here.ple***@tardis.com> wrote in message news:9goje2lo7uaectuuf4n7v8hd8ircnvsndh@4ax.com... >I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Metallo" > <doria***@pandora.be> opened his gob and said: > >>I uninstalled ZA from both PCs > > PMFJI, but I have heard that ZA services/processes can still be > present even after a supposedly successful uninstall. > > Is there anything in task manager, under 'image name' that starts with > 'vs'? > > -- > Cheers, > > Guy > > ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to > ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights > ** out of someone who richly deserves it. Steve,
Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? How could I check this? Alex Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... > In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" > <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>> [snip] >>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>> Places if you want to. >>> >>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>> For example: >>> >>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>> ping desktop >>> >>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>> >>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>> components. >> >>Hi Steve, >> >>Here's the answer to your questions below: >> >>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>> For example: >>> >>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>> ping desktop >> >>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>the >>name of my desktop is WXP) >> >>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>connections. >> >>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>> causing the problem. >> >>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name , >>on both PCs. >> >>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >> >>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>machines. >> >>Mistery or WXP? >> >>Thanks >>Alex > > I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other > one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to > ping the desktop. Is that right? > > Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with > Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If > you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the > network. > > I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while > troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as > a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the > problem. > > Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To > run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | > Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: > > HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Metallo"
<doria***@gmail.com> opened his gob and said: >Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? Follow the instructions here:- HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in> >How could I check this? Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427. Look under the system section. -- Cheers, Guy ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:17:58 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: Alex,>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message >news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... >> In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" >> <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>> [snip] >>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>>> Places if you want to. >>>> >>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>> ping desktop >>>> >>>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>>> >>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>>> components. >>> >>>Hi Steve, >>> >>>Here's the answer to your questions below: >>> >>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>> ping desktop >>> >>>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>>the >>>name of my desktop is WXP) >>> >>>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>>connections. >>> >>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>> causing the problem. >>> >>>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name , >>>on both PCs. >>> >>>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >>> >>>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>>machines. >>> >>>Mistery or WXP? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Alex >> >> I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other >> one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to >> ping the desktop. Is that right? >> >> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >> network. >> >> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >> problem. >> >> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: >> >> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 >> -- >> Best Wishes, >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >Steve, > >Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? > >How could I check this? > >Alex To check for a master browser problem, run "browstat status" from each computer, and compare the results. Download browstat (free, small, and easy to install). <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck,
Thank you for the excellent link you gave me. I ran browstat status and then followed the instructions on the website. I can now see both PCs on both PCs! The PC server is now the master browser. Only from my laptop I get an Error 5, but I understand it is due to the fact that the server is set as Guest user. I prefer to keep it so. I can ping the machines each other, both by IP address and by name. The only outstanding issue (or maybe not) is when I check the IPconfig/all, both machines show Node Type: Unknown. Is this a problem? Thank you Alex Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:jd0qe2975q2k9m2t90a3uj5bdie7far1v3@4ax.com... > On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:17:58 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: > >>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... >>> In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" >>> <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>>> [snip] >>>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>>>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>>>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>>>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>>>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>>>> Places if you want to. >>>>> >>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>> For example: >>>>> >>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>> ping desktop >>>>> >>>>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>>>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>>>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>>>> >>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>>>> components. >>>> >>>>Hi Steve, >>>> >>>>Here's the answer to your questions below: >>>> >>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>> For example: >>>>> >>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>> ping desktop >>>> >>>>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>>>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>>>the >>>>name of my desktop is WXP) >>>> >>>>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>>>connections. >>>> >>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>> causing the problem. >>>> >>>>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name >>>>, >>>>on both PCs. >>>> >>>>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >>>> >>>>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>>>machines. >>>> >>>>Mistery or WXP? >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>>Alex >>> >>> I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other >>> one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to >>> ping the desktop. Is that right? >>> >>> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >>> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >>> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >>> network. >>> >>> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >>> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >>> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >>> problem. >>> >>> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >>> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >>> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: >>> >>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 >>> -- >>> Best Wishes, >>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >>> >>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >>> >>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > >>Steve, >> >>Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? >> >>How could I check this? >> >>Alex > > Alex, > > To check for a master browser problem, run "browstat status" from each > computer, > and compare the results. Download browstat (free, small, and easy to > install). > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Metallo"
<doria***@gmail.com> opened his gob and said: >The only outstanding issue (or maybe not) is when I check the IPconfig/all, It shouldn't be.>both machines show Node Type: Unknown. >Is this a problem? http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html -- Cheers, Guy ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights ** out of someone who richly deserves it. Hi Guy,
I followed the instructions in the link on how to fix the Unknown Node Type but no change. In fact, I found no entry for EnableProxy on both PCs, therefore I created it with value "0", also, I tried "1", but no change. Dektop Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : wxp Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Laptop Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : wxplaptop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes Alternatives? Alex Show quoteHide quote "Dr Teeth" <no.email.here.ple***@tardis.com> wrote in message news:rsite2llboqi7l5npbku4c8mca5s6oosjp@4ax.com... >I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Metallo" > <doria***@gmail.com> opened his gob and said: > >>The only outstanding issue (or maybe not) is when I check the >>IPconfig/all, >>both machines show Node Type: Unknown. >>Is this a problem? > > It shouldn't be. > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html > > -- > Cheers, > > Guy > > ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to > ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights > ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:33:17 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: Alex,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:jd0qe2975q2k9m2t90a3uj5bdie7far1v3@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:17:58 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... >>>> In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" >>>> <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>>>>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>>>>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>>>>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>>>>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>>>>> Places if you want to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>>> For example: >>>>>> >>>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>>> ping desktop >>>>>> >>>>>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>>>>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>>>>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>>>>> >>>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>>>>> components. >>>>> >>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>> >>>>>Here's the answer to your questions below: >>>>> >>>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>>> For example: >>>>>> >>>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>>> ping desktop >>>>> >>>>>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>>>>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>>>>the >>>>>name of my desktop is WXP) >>>>> >>>>>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>>>>connections. >>>>> >>>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>>> causing the problem. >>>>> >>>>>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name >>>>>, >>>>>on both PCs. >>>>> >>>>>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >>>>> >>>>>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>>>>machines. >>>>> >>>>>Mistery or WXP? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>>Alex >>>> >>>> I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other >>>> one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to >>>> ping the desktop. Is that right? >>>> >>>> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >>>> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >>>> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >>>> network. >>>> >>>> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >>>> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >>>> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >>>> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >>>> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: >>>> >>>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 >>>> -- >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >>>> >>>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >>>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >>>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >>>> >>>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >> >>>Steve, >>> >>>Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? >>> >>>How could I check this? >>> >>>Alex >> >> Alex, >> >> To check for a master browser problem, run "browstat status" from each >> computer, >> and compare the results. Download browstat (free, small, and easy to >> install). >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html >Chuck, > >Thank you for the excellent link you gave me. >I ran browstat status and then followed the instructions on the website. >I can now see both PCs on both PCs! >The PC server is now the master browser. > >Only from my laptop I get an Error 5, but I understand it is due to the fact >that the server is set as Guest user. I prefer to keep it so. > >I can ping the machines each other, both by IP address and by name. > >The only outstanding issue (or maybe not) is when I check the IPconfig/all, >both machines show Node Type: Unknown. >Is this a problem? > >Thank you >Alex Leave the node type at "Unknown". The "error = 5" is indeed caused by Guest only authentication. Do you have any other problems? -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Well, I do actually, but there's already an open thread on it called
Sharing a Canon i865 - No "preview before printing" ....but nobody seems to know the solution so far... maybe you can help? You can close this thread if you want. Thanks Alex Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:k21ue216r0knrsrj1f6dvkjd6gvv0fjjca@4ax.com... > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:33:17 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: > >>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>news:jd0qe2975q2k9m2t90a3uj5bdie7far1v3@4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:17:58 +0200, "Metallo" <doria***@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>news:616ie2dqakup609qul582aem7cg9p6n0ja@4ax.com... >>>>> In article <#czSNpKxGHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Metallo" >>>>> <doria***@pandora.be> wrote: >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> As you can see from reading messages in this news group, network >>>>>>> browsing in My Network Places is unreliable. It's so unreliable that >>>>>>> I recommend not using it all. Instead, access the other computer by >>>>>>> typing its name in the Start > Run box as I showed above. After >>>>>>> access using Start > Run is working, you can troubleshoot My Network >>>>>>> Places if you want to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>>>> For example: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>>>> ping desktop >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If IP address succeeds and computer name fails, there's a problem with >>>>>>> name resolution, which uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Be sure to set >>>>>>> NetBIOS over TCP/IP to "Enable", not to "Default". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>>>> causing the problem. Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>>>> Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? Those programs contain firewall >>>>>>> components. >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>> >>>>>>Here's the answer to your questions below: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Can the computers ping each other by IP address and by computer name? >>>>>>> For example: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ping 192.168.1.101 >>>>>>> ping desktop >>>>>> >>>>>>The desktop (server), yes, both IP and name. >>>>>>The laptop (client), yes on IP, no on name. (maybe it is not important, >>>>>>the >>>>>>name of my desktop is WXP) >>>>>> >>>>>>NetBIOS over TCP/IP is "Enabled" on both machines, both LAN and wireless >>>>>>connections. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking", and try accessing >>>>>>> them through My Network Places and "\\computer". If that works, a >>>>>>> misconfigured firewall (ZoneAlarm or Windows Firewall) is probably >>>>>>> causing the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>>Done, nothing works, neither the run \\computer, nor the ping IP or name >>>>>>, >>>>>>on both PCs. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Does either computer have a recent version of >>>>>>>Norton or PC-cillin Antivirus? >>>>>> >>>>>>Nope. I only have ZA Free version and AVAST Home Edition (free) on both >>>>>>machines. >>>>>> >>>>>>Mistery or WXP? >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>Alex >>>>> >>>>> I can't tell from your reply which computer failed to ping the other >>>>> one. From your earlier messages, I assume that the laptop failed to >>>>> ping the desktop. Is that right? >>>>> >>>>> Are you sure that you started the computers in "Safe Mode with >>>>> Networking"? Pinging and network access should work in that mode. If >>>>> you started them in regular "Safe Mode", nothing would work on the >>>>> network. >>>>> >>>>> I'd un-install (not just disable) ZoneAlarm on both computers while >>>>> troubleshooting the network. That's safe, because your router acts as >>>>> a firewall. If that gets networking to work, then ZoneAlarm is the >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> Are there relevant messages in Event Viewer on either computer? To >>>>> run it, click Start | Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | >>>>> Administrative Tools | Event Viewer. For more information, see: >>>>> >>>>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308427 >>>>> -- >>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) >>>>> >>>>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group >>>>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions >>>>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >>> >>>>Steve, >>>> >>>>Just a thought, what about the master browser problem? >>>> >>>>How could I check this? >>>> >>>>Alex >>> >>> Alex, >>> >>> To check for a master browser problem, run "browstat status" from each >>> computer, >>> and compare the results. Download browstat (free, small, and easy to >>> install). >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html > >>Chuck, >> >>Thank you for the excellent link you gave me. >>I ran browstat status and then followed the instructions on the website. >>I can now see both PCs on both PCs! >>The PC server is now the master browser. >> >>Only from my laptop I get an Error 5, but I understand it is due to the fact >>that the server is set as Guest user. I prefer to keep it so. >> >>I can ping the machines each other, both by IP address and by name. >> >>The only outstanding issue (or maybe not) is when I check the IPconfig/all, >>both machines show Node Type: Unknown. >>Is this a problem? >> >>Thank you >>Alex > > Alex, > > Leave the node type at "Unknown". The "error = 5" is indeed caused by Guest > only authentication. > > Do you have any other problems? > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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