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20 Aug 2006 4:37 PM
MSM
Hello:

I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
the same work group.

Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.

Mark M
--
Thank you for you help

Author
20 Aug 2006 7:39 PM
Robert L [MS-MVP]
assuming you can ping each other, have created the same username and password on all computers? This troubleshooting may help,

troubleshooting is not accessible error Troubleshooting "... is not accessible" error step by step. When try to access a remote computer, you may receive the following error messages: ...
      www.howtonetworking.com/Troubleshooting/notaccessibale0.htm 


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BF6209C-E9F4-4B8A-804C-E2A07262E241@microsoft.com...
  Hello:

  I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
  Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
  thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
  network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
  Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
  the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
  fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
  printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
  thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
  Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
  XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
  the same work group.

  Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.

  Mark M
  --
  Thank you for you help
Author
20 Aug 2006 8:24 PM
MSM
Unfortinately I can not ping the other PC, my firewall router see's the
addressing for the PC, but nothing else.  The other PC can not even run
ipconfig/all.
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Thank you for you help


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"Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> assuming you can ping each other, have created the same username and password on all computers? This troubleshooting may help,
>
> troubleshooting is not accessible error Troubleshooting "... is not accessible" error step by step. When try to access a remote computer, you may receive the following error messages: ...
>       www.howtonetworking.com/Troubleshooting/notaccessibale0.htm 
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BF6209C-E9F4-4B8A-804C-E2A07262E241@microsoft.com...
>   Hello:
>
>   I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
>   Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
>   thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
>   network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
>   Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
>   the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
>   fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
>   printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
>   thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
>   Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
>   XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
>   the same work group.
>
>   Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   Mark M
>   --
>   Thank you for you help
Author
21 Aug 2006 1:30 AM
Robert L [MS-MVP]
Try to re-configure the TCP/IP first. This troubleshooting may help,

Troubleshooting TCP/IP Broken Connection
Whenever you have a TCP/IP connection issue, you may want to try the following fixes...
http://www.chicagotech.net/Networking/brokenconnection1.htm

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B37D8B2E-6E61-4489-87B0-A7F3B0E6203A@microsoft.com...
  Unfortinately I can not ping the other PC, my firewall router see's the
  addressing for the PC, but nothing else.  The other PC can not even run
  ipconfig/all.
  --
  Thank you for you help


Show quoteHide quote
  "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

  > assuming you can ping each other, have created the same username and password on all computers? This troubleshooting may help,
  >
  > troubleshooting is not accessible error Troubleshooting "... is not accessible" error step by step. When try to access a remote computer, you may receive the following error messages: ...
  >       www.howtonetworking.com/Troubleshooting/notaccessibale0.htm 
  >
  >
  > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
  > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
  > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  >   "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BF6209C-E9F4-4B8A-804C-E2A07262E241@microsoft.com...
  >   Hello:
  >
  >   I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
  >   Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
  >   thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
  >   network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
  >   Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
  >   the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
  >   fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
  >   printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
  >   thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
  >   Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
  >   XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
  >   the same work group.
  >
  >   Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.
  >
  >   Mark M
  >   --
  >   Thank you for you help
Author
21 Aug 2006 2:10 PM
MSM
I have done everything, and still no response in fact the other PC can not
even run
ipconfig/all.  I am wondering if there is a minor check box somewhere that
has to be either cleared of check for this to work.  I am almost ready to run
restore.

Mark M
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--
Thank you for you help


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"Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> Try to re-configure the TCP/IP first. This troubleshooting may help,
>
> Troubleshooting TCP/IP Broken Connection
> Whenever you have a TCP/IP connection issue, you may want to try the following fixes...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/Networking/brokenconnection1.htm
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B37D8B2E-6E61-4489-87B0-A7F3B0E6203A@microsoft.com...
>   Unfortinately I can not ping the other PC, my firewall router see's the
>   addressing for the PC, but nothing else.  The other PC can not even run
>   ipconfig/all.
>   --
>   Thank you for you help
>
>
>   "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>   > assuming you can ping each other, have created the same username and password on all computers? This troubleshooting may help,
>   >
>   > troubleshooting is not accessible error Troubleshooting "... is not accessible" error step by step. When try to access a remote computer, you may receive the following error messages: ...
>   >       www.howtonetworking.com/Troubleshooting/notaccessibale0.htm 
>   >
>   >
>   > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>   > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>   > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   >   "MSM" <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1BF6209C-E9F4-4B8A-804C-E2A07262E241@microsoft.com...
>   >   Hello:
>   >
>   >   I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
>   >   Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
>   >   thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
>   >   network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
>   >   Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
>   >   the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
>   >   fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
>   >   printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
>   >   thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
>   >   Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
>   >   XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
>   >   the same work group.
>   >
>   >   Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.
>   >
>   >   Mark M
>   >   --
>   >   Thank you for you help
Author
21 Sep 2006 7:20 PM
Chuck
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:37:01 -0700, MSM <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>Hello:
>
>I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
>Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the other PC's
>thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2 Wind 2000's on the
>network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on it and removed both of the
>Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc XP home and the other XP Pro, but
>the XP home PC can not see anybody of the net, but it can access the internet
>fine.  I can not access the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work
>printer or files.  When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a
>thing.  When I look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP
>Home, it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get the
>XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we are all on
>the same work group.
>
>Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Mark M

Mark,

You can't undo Simple File Sharing in Windows XP Home.  Sorry.

If you're having problems seeing one computer from another, you're having a
problem with the Browser (which is NOT the program that you surf the web from).
You probably have a problem with SMBs, and with NetBT.

One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several
other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this
article with an open mind.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
22 Sep 2006 3:40 PM
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Chuck wrote:
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:37:01 -0700, MSM
> <M**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I run a small (4 PC) netwoerk at home, I access the Web though a DSL
>> Firewall Router.  I had no problems with seeing and accessing the
>> other PC's thought the net, untill recently.  I had 2 XP Pro's and 2
>> Wind 2000's on the network.  Now I just bought a PC with XP Home on
>> it and removed both of the Window's 2000.  My PC can see the new pc
>> XP home and the other XP Pro, but the XP home PC can not see anybody
>> of the net, but it can access the internet fine.  I can not access
>> the XP Home at all.  We can not share the net work printer or files.
>> When I run the Home Networking wizard it doesn't do a thing.  When I
>> look for the check box to undo simple file sharing on the XP Home,
>> it isn't there.  I have tried everything that I can think of to get
>> the XP Home fully network in my work group, and yes I did check, we
>> are all on the same work group.
>>
>> Any suggestions or fixes for this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Mark M
>
> Mark,
>
> You can't undo Simple File Sharing in Windows XP Home.  Sorry.
>
> If you're having problems seeing one computer from another, you're
> having a problem with the Browser (which is NOT the program that you
> surf the web from). You probably have a problem with SMBs, and with
> NetBT.
>
> One of the most common causes of this problem would be a
> misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security
> component. There are several other possibilities too, and any might
> be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Absolutely accurate.  BTDT!  Also, don't rely on on-screen messages:  Go
right to your firewall logs and look for blocks there on each machine; it
could be either one causing the problem.  As I found out, the hard way<G>

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