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Author
24 Aug 2006 6:31 PM
Wally
Hope someone can help..

I am trying to set up a small home network.

I terms of hardware I have:

A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.

Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.

I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).

I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
PC.

I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
PC's does not help.

I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
of the respective PC's.
I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.

When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
extended error has occured".

I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
(I had the same problems before the update).

It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.

I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.

Any help appreciated.






--
Frustrated networker

Author
24 Aug 2006 7:29 PM
Robert L [MS-MVP]
can the laptop ping itself?

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
  Hope someone can help..

  I am trying to set up a small home network.

  I terms of hardware I have:

  A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
  A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
  A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
  A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.

  Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.

  I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
  which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
  completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).

  I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
  PC.

  I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
  for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
  PC's does not help.

  I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
  versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
  of the respective PC's.
  I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.

  When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
  either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
  error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
  extended error has occured".

  I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
  removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
  previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
  error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
  (I had the same problems before the update).

  It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.

  I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.

  Any help appreciated.






  --
  Frustrated networker
Author
24 Aug 2006 7:48 PM
Wally
Thanks for the response. No it can not. It times out.
--
Frustrated networker


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"Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> can the laptop ping itself?
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
>   Hope someone can help..
>
>   I am trying to set up a small home network.
>
>   I terms of hardware I have:
>
>   A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
>   A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
>   A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
>   A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
>
>   Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.
>
>   I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
>   which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
>   completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).
>
>   I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
>   PC.
>
>   I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
>   for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
>   PC's does not help.
>
>   I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
>   versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
>   of the respective PC's.
>   I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
>
>   When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
>   either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
>   error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
>   extended error has occured".
>
>   I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
>   removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
>   previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
>   error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
>   (I had the same problems before the update).
>
>   It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
>
>   I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
>
>   Any help appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   --
>   Frustrated networker
Author
25 Aug 2006 2:47 PM
Robert L [MS-MVP]
Then I would double check any security software blocking the ping. Or posting the result of ipconfig /all here may help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10EFBF50-11A6-493E-AF86-7B1A11559238@microsoft.com...
  Thanks for the response. No it can not. It times out.
  --
  Frustrated networker


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  "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

  > can the laptop ping itself?
  >
  > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
  > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
  > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  >   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
  >   Hope someone can help..
  >
  >   I am trying to set up a small home network.
  >
  >   I terms of hardware I have:
  >
  >   A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
  >   A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
  >   A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
  >   A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
  >
  >   Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.
  >
  >   I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
  >   which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
  >   completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).
  >
  >   I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
  >   PC.
  >
  >   I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
  >   for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
  >   PC's does not help.
  >
  >   I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
  >   versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
  >   of the respective PC's.
  >   I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
  >
  >   When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
  >   either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
  >   error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
  >   extended error has occured".
  >
  >   I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
  >   removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
  >   previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
  >   error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
  >   (I had the same problems before the update).
  >
  >   It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
  >
  >   I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
  >
  >   Any help appreciated.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   --
  >   Frustrated networker
Author
25 Aug 2006 5:54 PM
Karen
Jumping on the bandwagon here... I have almost the same setup and definitely
the same problem.

Setup: DSL modem to wireless router to desktop (wired) and laptop (wireless)

The desktop can see files, etc. on the laptop no prob, but the laptop is
getting a network path not found error when trying to access the desktop

Following the convo so far, my laptop can ping itself, but not the desktop
and the desktop can't ping laptop. So where do I go?

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"Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> Then I would double check any security software blocking the ping. Or posting the result of ipconfig /all here may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10EFBF50-11A6-493E-AF86-7B1A11559238@microsoft.com...
>   Thanks for the response. No it can not. It times out.
>   --
>   Frustrated networker
>
>
>   "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>   > can the laptop ping itself?
>   >
>   > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>   > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>   > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>   >   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
>   >   Hope someone can help..
>   >
>   >   I am trying to set up a small home network.
>   >
>   >   I terms of hardware I have:
>   >
>   >   A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
>   >   A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
>   >   A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
>   >   A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
>   >
>   >   Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.
>   >
>   >   I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
>   >   which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
>   >   completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).
>   >
>   >   I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
>   >   PC.
>   >
>   >   I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
>   >   for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
>   >   PC's does not help.
>   >
>   >   I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
>   >   versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
>   >   of the respective PC's.
>   >   I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
>   >
>   >   When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
>   >   either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
>   >   error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
>   >   extended error has occured".
>   >
>   >   I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
>   >   removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
>   >   previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
>   >   error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
>   >   (I had the same problems before the update).
>   >
>   >   It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
>   >
>   >   I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
>   >
>   >   Any help appreciated.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   --
>   >   Frustrated networker
Author
25 Aug 2006 6:55 PM
Wally
Try what what worked for me, ie disable any firewalls provided by additional
AV software (Noton 2006 Internet Security in my case on my laptop). Before
re-running my Network Wizard I also disabled the Windows firewalls.

I now have both Windows firewalls enabled but have left the Norton firewall
disabled. Enabling he Norton firewall seems to start my unhappiness all over.

Otherwise wait for an expert. (thats not me).
--
Frustrated networker


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"Karen" wrote:

> Jumping on the bandwagon here... I have almost the same setup and definitely
> the same problem.
>
> Setup: DSL modem to wireless router to desktop (wired) and laptop (wireless)
>
> The desktop can see files, etc. on the laptop no prob, but the laptop is
> getting a network path not found error when trying to access the desktop
>
> Following the convo so far, my laptop can ping itself, but not the desktop
> and the desktop can't ping laptop. So where do I go?
>
> "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Then I would double check any security software blocking the ping. Or posting the result of ipconfig /all here may help.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10EFBF50-11A6-493E-AF86-7B1A11559238@microsoft.com...
> >   Thanks for the response. No it can not. It times out.
> >   --
> >   Frustrated networker
> >
> >
> >   "Robert L [MS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >   > can the laptop ping itself?
> >   >
> >   > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >   > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >   > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >   >   "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
> >   >   Hope someone can help..
> >   >
> >   >   I am trying to set up a small home network.
> >   >
> >   >   I terms of hardware I have:
> >   >
> >   >   A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
> >   >   A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
> >   >   A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
> >   >   A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
> >   >
> >   >   Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem there.
> >   >
> >   >   I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
> >   >   which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
> >   >   completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say otherwise).
> >   >
> >   >   I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on either
> >   >   PC.
> >   >
> >   >   I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop, nothing
> >   >   for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on both
> >   >   PC's does not help.
> >   >
> >   >   I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
> >   >   versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support tab
> >   >   of the respective PC's.
> >   >   I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
> >   >
> >   >   When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
> >   >   either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get an
> >   >   error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
> >   >   extended error has occured".
> >   >
> >   >   I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
> >   >   removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
> >   >   previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a similar
> >   >   error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
> >   >   (I had the same problems before the update).
> >   >
> >   >   It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
> >   >
> >   >   I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
> >   >
> >   >   Any help appreciated.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   --
> >   >   Frustrated networker
Author
25 Aug 2006 4:28 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is allowed
to be shared.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Jack (MVP-Networking).


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"Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
> Hope someone can help..
>
> I am trying to set up a small home network.
>
> I terms of hardware I have:
>
> A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
> A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
> A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
> A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
>
> Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem
> there.
>
> I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
> which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
> completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say
> otherwise).
>
> I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on
> either
> PC.
>
> I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop,
> nothing
> for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on
> both
> PC's does not help.
>
> I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
> versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support
> tab
> of the respective PC's.
> I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
>
> When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
> either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get
> an
> error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
> extended error has occured".
>
> I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
> removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
> previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a
> similar
> error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
> (I had the same problems before the update).
>
> It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
>
> I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Frustrated networker
Author
25 Aug 2006 3:54 PM
Wally
Eureka!

My troubles seem to be solved.

I disabled the Norton 2006 Internet security firewall on the laptop as well
as both Windows firewalls, and re-ran the networking wizard . The desktop has
a different AV program without firewall.

I hopefully assume my router is  firewalled. I need to investigate this.

Perhaps I can configure the Windows firewalls to allow functional networking
to my requirements.

Thanks Robert.

--
Ex Frustrated networker


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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
> http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is allowed
> to be shared.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
> "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
> > Hope someone can help..
> >
> > I am trying to set up a small home network.
> >
> > I terms of hardware I have:
> >
> > A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
> > A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
> > A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
> > A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
> >
> > Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem
> > there.
> >
> > I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
> > which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
> > completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say
> > otherwise).
> >
> > I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on
> > either
> > PC.
> >
> > I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop,
> > nothing
> > for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on
> > both
> > PC's does not help.
> >
> > I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
> > versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support
> > tab
> > of the respective PC's.
> > I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
> >
> > When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
> > either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get
> > an
> > error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
> > extended error has occured".
> >
> > I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
> > removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
> > previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a
> > similar
> > error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
> > (I had the same problems before the update).
> >
> > It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
> >
> > I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frustrated networker
>
>
>
Author
25 Aug 2006 3:56 PM
Wally
Eureka!

My troubles seem to be solved.

I disabled the Norton 2006 Internet security firewall on the laptop as well
as both Windows firewalls, and re-ran the networking wizard . The desktop has
a different AV program without firewall.

I hopefully assume my router is  firewalled. I need to investigate this.

Perhaps I can configure the Windows firewalls to allow functional networking
to my requirements.

Thanks Jack.

--
Ex Frustrated networker


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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
> http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is allowed
> to be shared.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
> "Wally" <Wa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7FC21482-E26C-49B7-B18A-A813010F1221@microsoft.com...
> > Hope someone can help..
> >
> > I am trying to set up a small home network.
> >
> > I terms of hardware I have:
> >
> > A DSL wireless/lan modem/router.
> > A desktop PC running XP with SP2 and network card (wired to router).
> > A notebook PC also running XP SP2 and wireless card.
> > A USB printer connected to the desktop PC.
> >
> > Both PC's are able to access the internet via the router, no problem
> > there.
> >
> > I have run the network setup wizard on the desktop to create a setup disk,
> > which I have also run on the notebook. (I suspect that it does not run
> > completely on the notebook, although there is no message to say
> > otherwise).
> >
> > I cannot see the network (mshome by default) in My Network Places on
> > either
> > PC.
> >
> > I can see shared document folders from the desktop for the desktop,
> > nothing
> > for the notebook. Similar from the notebook. Disabling the firewall on
> > both
> > PC's does not help.
> >
> > I am able to successfully ping the desktop from the notebook but not vise
> > versa using the IP addresses obtained from the connection/staus/support
> > tab
> > of the respective PC's.
> > I get a timeout when I ping the notebook.
> >
> > When I try to add (some but not all) additional networking components for
> > either connection from the properties window eg. TCP/IP version 6, I get
> > an
> > error message "Could not add the requested component. The error is: An
> > extended error has occured".
> >
> > I have recently done a complete update on both PC's which seems to have
> > removed the Peer to Peer component which is no onger available. When I
> > previously tried to install this component from the notebook I got a
> > similar
> > error message. This did not happen on the desktop.
> > (I had the same problems before the update).
> >
> > It seems imho that the problem lies with the notebook.
> >
> > I have to say all this is driving me NUTS.
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frustrated networker
>
>
>