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PC's not seeing each otherI know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One runs
Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the same WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. #Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. Any Ideas? Thanks, Mark Flynn On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: Mark,>I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One runs >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the same >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. >Any Ideas? > >Thanks, Mark Flynn Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? Or "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that all 3 are in the same workgroup. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Hi:
Thanks for your prompt reply. The error message is: "Request timed out." ALSO All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 DHCP. NetBT is Enabled ALSO In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but not #Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On #Three PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access to some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. I'll keep trying... Regards, Mark Flynn Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilitnews:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: > > >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One runs > >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the same > >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. > >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. > >Any Ideas? > > > >Thanks, Mark Flynn > > Mark, > > Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? Or > "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? > > You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other > security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any might be > the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. > y.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that all 3 are > in the same workgroup. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > > Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net > config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this > article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download > browstat!): > html#AskingForHelp> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelpShow quoteHide quote > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: Mark,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >wrote: >> >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One >runs >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the >same >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. >> >Any Ideas? >> > >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn >> >> Mark, >> >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? Or >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? >> >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or >other >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any >might be >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit >y.html> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html >> >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that all >3 are >> in the same workgroup. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >> >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and >"net >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. >Read this >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download >> browstat!): >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. >html#AskingForHelp> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp >Hi: >Thanks for your prompt reply. >The error message is: "Request timed out." >ALSO >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 >DHCP. >NetBT is Enabled >ALSO >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but not >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On #Three >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access to >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. >I'll keep trying... >Regards, Mark Flynn OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost certainly a personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities though. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles: <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. I'm becoming very frustrated. As far as I know, all firewalls are turned
off on both PC's. I've got two PC's running. #One and #Two. On both machines via "My Network Places" I can see the Workgroup and #One and #Two. From PC #Two, when I click on #One - I get: One is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the admin... The network path was not found I get the same message in the other direction. Any ideas? Thanks, Mark Flynn Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilitnews:ss2df25fhevrs3509mh4ntg35edeaj2806@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: > > >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> > >wrote: > >> > >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One > >runs > >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the > >same > >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. > >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. > >> >Any Ideas? > >> > > >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn > >> > >> Mark, > >> > >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? Or > >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? > >> > >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or > >other > >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any > >might be > >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili t > >y.html> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit y.html > >> > >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that all > >3 are > >> in the same workgroup. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > >> > >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and > >"net > >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. > >Read this > >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download > >> browstat!): > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood .. > >html#AskingForHelp> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. html#AskingForHelp > > >Hi: > >Thanks for your prompt reply. > >The error message is: "Request timed out." > >ALSO > >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 > >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 > >DHCP. > >NetBT is Enabled > >ALSO > >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but not > >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On #Three > >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access to > >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. > >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. > >I'll keep trying... > >Regards, Mark Flynn > > Mark, > > OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost certainly a > personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities though. > y.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.> Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. Read > this article, and linked articles: > html#AskingForHelp> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelpShow quoteHide quote > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:48:38 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: Mark,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:ss2df25fhevrs3509mh4ntg35edeaj2806@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >wrote: >> >> >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. >One >> >runs >> >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on >the >> >same >> >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not >#Two. >> >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. >> >> >Any Ideas? >> >> > >> >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn >> >> >> >> Mark, >> >> >> >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? >Or >> >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? >> >> >> >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or >> >other >> >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any >> >might be >> >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. >> >> >> >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili >t >> >y.html> >> >> >> >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit >y.html >> >> >> >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that >all >> >3 are >> >> in the same workgroup. >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >> >> >> >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", >and >> >"net >> >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. >> >Read this >> >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely >(download >> >> browstat!): >> >> >> >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood >. >> >html#AskingForHelp> >> >> >> >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. >html#AskingForHelp >> >> >Hi: >> >Thanks for your prompt reply. >> >The error message is: "Request timed out." >> >ALSO >> >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 >> >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 >> >DHCP. >> >NetBT is Enabled >> >ALSO >> >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but >not >> >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On >#Three >> >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access >to >> >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. >> >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. >> >I'll keep trying... >> >Regards, Mark Flynn >> >> Mark, >> >> OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost >certainly a >> personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities though. >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit >y.html> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html >> >> Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. >Read >> this article, and linked articles: >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. >html#AskingForHelp> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp >I'm becoming very frustrated. As far as I know, all firewalls are turned >off on both PC's. >I've got two PC's running. #One and #Two. >On both machines via "My Network Places" I can see the Workgroup and #One >and #Two. >From PC #Two, when I click on #One - I get: >One is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network >resource. Contact the admin... The network path was not found > >I get the same message in the other direction. There is lots to be done yet. But we need diagnostics, since you are the only one in front of the computers. Help us to help you. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html What firewalls did you disable? Note that disabling firewalls doesn't always produce the expected results. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html Let's look at "ipconfig /all" from each computer, to start diagnostics. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. For PC #Two:
ipconfig /all displays: Host Name...............: MARK-X60S Primary Dns Suffix.....: Node Type................: Unknown IP Routing Enabled.....: No WINS Proxy Enabled..: No PC #'s One and Three can't ping #Two They get a "Request timed out" message. Does the above - especially the "Node Type" tell you anything? Thanks, Mark Flynn "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net>news:9f2ef2pr4kmdn1j10cg1bn8fm5jhbspo51@4ax.com... > On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:48:38 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: > > >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > >news:ss2df25fhevrs3509mh4ntg35edeaj2806@4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> > >wrote: > >> > >> >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > >> >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... > >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" Show quoteHide quote > >> >wrote: <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> >> >> > >> >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. > >One > >> >runs > >> >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on > >the > >> >same > >> >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not > >#Two. > >> >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. > >> >> >Any Ideas? > >> >> > > >> >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn > >> >> > >> >> Mark, > >> >> > >> >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? > >Or > >> >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? > >> >> > >> >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or > >> >other > >> >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any > >> >might be > >> >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. > >> >> > >> > >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibil i > >t > >> >y.html> > >> >> > >> > >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili t > >y.html > >> >> > >> >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that > >all > >> >3 are > >> >> in the same workgroup. > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > >> >> > >> >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", > >and > >> >"net > >> >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. > >> >Read this > >> >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely > >(download > >> >> browstat!): > >> >> > >> > >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhoo d > >. > >> >html#AskingForHelp> > >> >> > >> > >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood .. > >html#AskingForHelp > >> > >> >Hi: > >> >Thanks for your prompt reply. > >> >The error message is: "Request timed out." > >> >ALSO > >> >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 > >> >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 > >> >DHCP. > >> >NetBT is Enabled > >> >ALSO > >> >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but > >not > >> >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On > >#Three > >> >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access > >to > >> >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. > >> >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. > >> >I'll keep trying... > >> >Regards, Mark Flynn > >> > >> Mark, > >> > >> OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost > >certainly a > >> personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities though. > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili t > >y.html> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit y.html > >> > >> Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. > >Read > >> this article, and linked articles: > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood .. > >html#AskingForHelp> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. html#AskingForHelp > > >I'm becoming very frustrated. As far as I know, all firewalls are turned > >off on both PC's. > >I've got two PC's running. #One and #Two. > >On both machines via "My Network Places" I can see the Workgroup and #One > >and #Two. > >From PC #Two, when I click on #One - I get: > >One is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network > >resource. Contact the admin... The network path was not found > > > >I get the same message in the other direction. > > Mark, > > There is lots to be done yet. But we need diagnostics, since you are the only > one in front of the computers. Help us to help you. > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-hel> What firewalls did you disable? Note that disabling firewalls doesn't always > produce the expected results. > p.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.> Let's look at "ipconfig /all" from each computer, to start diagnostics. > html#AskingForHelp> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelpShow quoteHide quote > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:51:11 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: Mark,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:9f2ef2pr4kmdn1j10cg1bn8fm5jhbspo51@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:48:38 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >wrote: >> >> >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> >news:ss2df25fhevrs3509mh4ntg35edeaj2806@4ax.com... >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> >> >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" ><flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. >> >One >> >> >runs >> >> >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on >> >the >> >> >same >> >> >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not >> >#Two. >> >> >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. >> >> >> >Any Ideas? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark, >> >> >> >> >> >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? >> >Or >> >> >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? >> >> >> >> >> >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, >or >> >> >other >> >> >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and >any >> >> >might be >> >> >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibil >i >> >t >> >> >y.html> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili >t >> >y.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and >that >> >all >> >> >3 are >> >> >> in the same workgroup. >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config >server", >> >and >> >> >"net >> >> >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the >problem. >> >> >Read this >> >> >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely >> >(download >> >> >> browstat!): >> >> >> >> >> >> >>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhoo >d >> >. >> >> >html#AskingForHelp> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood >. >> >html#AskingForHelp >> >> >> >> >Hi: >> >> >Thanks for your prompt reply. >> >> >The error message is: "Request timed out." >> >> >ALSO >> >> >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 >> >> >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 >> >> >DHCP. >> >> >NetBT is Enabled >> >> >ALSO >> >> >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, >but >> >not >> >> >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On >> >#Three >> >> >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have >access >> >to >> >> >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. >> >> >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. >> >> >I'll keep trying... >> >> >Regards, Mark Flynn >> >> >> >> Mark, >> >> >> >> OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost >> >certainly a >> >> personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities >though. >> >> >> >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili >t >> >y.html> >> >> >> >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit >y.html >> >> >> >> Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. >> >Read >> >> this article, and linked articles: >> >> >> >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood >. >> >html#AskingForHelp> >> >> >> >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. >html#AskingForHelp >> >> >I'm becoming very frustrated. As far as I know, all firewalls are turned >> >off on both PC's. >> >I've got two PC's running. #One and #Two. >> >On both machines via "My Network Places" I can see the Workgroup and >#One >> >and #Two. >> >From PC #Two, when I click on #One - I get: >> >One is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network >> >resource. Contact the admin... The network path was not found >> > >> >I get the same message in the other direction. >> >> Mark, >> >> There is lots to be done yet. But we need diagnostics, since you are the >only >> one in front of the computers. Help us to help you. >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html >> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html >> >> What firewalls did you disable? Note that disabling firewalls doesn't >always >> produce the expected results. >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-hel >p.html> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> Let's look at "ipconfig /all" from each computer, to start diagnostics. >> ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. >html#AskingForHelp> >> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp >For PC #Two: >ipconfig /all displays: > >Host Name...............: MARK-X60S >Primary Dns Suffix.....: >Node Type................: Unknown >IP Routing Enabled.....: No >WINS Proxy Enabled..: No > >PC #'s One and Three can't ping #Two They get a "Request timed out" >message. > >Does the above - especially the "Node Type" tell you anything? >Thanks, Mark Flynn Diagnostics are useful, when they are presented unedited, and for all computers. Then we can continue. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. I can ping PC #One from #Two BUT I can not ping #Two from #One.
Thanks, Mark Flynn Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilitnews:ss2df25fhevrs3509mh4ntg35edeaj2806@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:35 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> wrote: > > >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > >news:gljcf25lfmgi4uvmaj7hrde3vjeuvftife@4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:23 -0700, "Mark Flynn" <flynn@NoSpam.uci.net> > >wrote: > >> > >> >I know you've been through this a kazillion times. I have 3 PC's. One > >runs > >> >Win2kPro, Two runs WinXPpro sp2, Three runs Win98. They are all on the > >same > >> >WORKGROUP, they have distinct names. #One can ping #Three but not #Two. > >> >#Two can ping #One & #Three. #Three can ping #One but NOT #Two. > >> >Any Ideas? > >> > > >> >Thanks, Mark Flynn > >> > >> Mark, > >> > >> Please describe "Can't ping". What error do you get? Unknown host? Or > >> "packets dropped" / "Request timed out"? > >> > >> You probably have a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or > >other > >> security component. There are several other possibilities too, and any > >might be > >> the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind. > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibili t > >y.html> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibilit y.html > >> > >> Make sure that NetBT is Enabled on both Windows XP computers, and that all > >3 are > >> in the same workgroup. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > >> > >> Then look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and > >"net > >> config workstation", from each XP computer, and diagnose the problem. > >Read this > >> article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download > >> browstat!): > >> > ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood .. > >html#AskingForHelp> > >> > >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood. html#AskingForHelp > > >Hi: > >Thanks for your prompt reply. > >The error message is: "Request timed out." > >ALSO > >All PC's share the same sub-net: 255.255.255.0 > >and their IP address is: 10.168.106.51, 52, 56 > >DHCP. > >NetBT is Enabled > >ALSO > >In the "Network Neighborhood": On #One PC - #One and #Three appear, but not > >#Two On #Two PC - "WORKGROUP" appears, but not #One or # Three. On #Three > >PC - #One appears but not #Two. Strangely on #Three PC - I have access to > >some of #One's folders but "Access is denied." on others. > >As far as I know, I've disabled any firewalls. > >I'll keep trying... > >Regards, Mark Flynn > > Mark, > > OK, if it's "Request timed out", and "Access is denied", it's almost certainly a > personal firewall problem. There are several other possibilities though. > y.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.> Or we could look at "ipconfig /all", and start to diagnose the problem. Read > this article, and linked articles: > html#AskingForHelp> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelpShow quoteHide quote > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. 
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