>Hi everybody
>
>I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>
>They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>
>I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>driving me nuts!
>
>They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>
>HELP!
>
>Thanks
>Regards
>Greg

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi everybody
> >
> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >
> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >
> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >driving me nuts!
> >
> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >
> >HELP!
> >
> >Thanks
> >Regards
> >Greg
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> current nym here.
>
> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi everybody
> >
> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >
> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >
> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >driving me nuts!
> >
> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >
> >HELP!
> >
> >Thanks
> >Regards
> >Greg
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> current nym here.
>
> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> open mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi everybody
>> >
>> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>> >
>> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>> >
>> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>> >driving me nuts!
>> >
>> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>> >
>> >HELP!
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Regards
>> >Greg
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
>> current nym here.
>>
>> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
>> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
>> open mind.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>>
>> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
>> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
>> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
>> browstat!):
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

>Hi Chuck,
>
>Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
>the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
>the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
>Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
>possible.
>
>The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
>
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
>
>
>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
>
>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>
>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>
>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
>        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
>
>
>
>Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
>
>
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
>
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
>Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
>
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
>
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
>
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>
>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>
>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
>
>                                            192.168.0.1
>
>        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
>5:05:53 PM
>
>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
>5:05:53 PM
>
>
>Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
>
>I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
>ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
>
>I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
>can provide would be great!
>
>Thanks
>Regards
>Greg

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi everybody
> >> >
> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >> >
> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >> >
> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >> >driving me nuts!
> >> >
> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >> >
> >> >HELP!
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >Regards
> >> >Greg
> >>
> >> Hi Greg,
> >>
> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> >> current nym here.
> >>
> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> >> open mind.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
> >>
> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> >> browstat!):
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> >Hi Chuck,
> >
> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
> >possible.
> >
> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
> >
> >
> >Windows IP Configuration
> >
> >
> >
> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
> >
> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
> >
> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >
> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
> >
> >
> >
> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >
> >
> >
> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
> >
> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
> >
> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
> >
> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >
> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
> >
> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >
> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >
> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >
> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
> >
> >                                            192.168.0.1
> >
> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
> >5:05:53 PM
> >
> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
> >5:05:53 PM
> >
> >
> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
> >
> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
> >
> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
> >can provide would be great!
> >
> >Thanks
> >Regards
> >Greg
>
> Greg,
>
> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
> PSTools (free) too.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
>
> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
> after my replies.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi everybody
>> >> >
>> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>> >> >
>> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>> >> >
>> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>> >> >driving me nuts!
>> >> >
>> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>> >> >
>> >> >HELP!
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >Regards
>> >> >Greg
>> >>
>> >> Hi Greg,
>> >>
>> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
>> >> current nym here.
>> >>
>> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
>> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
>> >> open mind.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>> >>
>> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
>> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
>> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
>> >> browstat!):
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>>
>> >Hi Chuck,
>> >
>> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
>> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
>> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
>> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
>> >possible.
>> >
>> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
>> >
>> >
>> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
>> >
>> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>> >
>> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> >
>> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >
>> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
>> >
>> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
>> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
>> >
>> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
>> >
>> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> >
>> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> >
>> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
>> >
>> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >
>> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >
>> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >
>> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
>> >
>> >                                            192.168.0.1
>> >
>> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
>> >5:05:53 PM
>> >
>> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
>> >5:05:53 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
>> >
>> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
>> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
>> >
>> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
>> >can provide would be great!
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Regards
>> >Greg
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
>> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
>> PSTools (free) too.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
>>
>> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
>> after my replies.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>>
>
>Thanks Chuck,
>
>I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
>
>Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
>that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
>
>If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
>Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
>
>As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
>recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
>
>A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
>Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
>and the other FAT32....
>
>Thanks again for your help.
>
>Best Regards
>Greg

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:02 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi everybody
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >> >> >driving me nuts!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >HELP!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >Greg
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Greg,
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> >> >> current nym here.
> >> >>
> >> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> >> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> >> >> open mind.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> >> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> >> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> >> >> browstat!):
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
> >>
> >> >Hi Chuck,
> >> >
> >> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
> >> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
> >> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
> >> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
> >> >possible.
> >> >
> >> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Windows IP Configuration
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
> >> >
> >> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
> >> >
> >> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >> >
> >> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >
> >> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >
> >> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
> >> >
> >> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
> >> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
> >> >
> >> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
> >> >
> >> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >
> >> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> >
> >> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
> >> >
> >> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >
> >> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >
> >> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >
> >> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
> >> >
> >> >                                            192.168.0.1
> >> >
> >> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >> >
> >> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >
> >> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
> >> >
> >> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
> >> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
> >> >
> >> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
> >> >can provide would be great!
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >Regards
> >> >Greg
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
> >> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
> >> PSTools (free) too.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
> >>
> >> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
> >> after my replies.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks Chuck,
> >
> >I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
> >
> >Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
> >that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
> >
> >If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
> >Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
> >
> >As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
> >recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
> >
> >A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
> >Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
> >and the other FAT32....
> >
> >Thanks again for your help.
> >
> >Best Regards
> >Greg
>
> Greg,
>
> File Sharing (ie Windows Networking) can use any of several protocols.  Most
> common is SMBs over NetBT.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
>
> With Windows XP / 2000, you can have SMBs directly hosted over IP.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
>
> Protocol is not related to file sharing type.  Simple File Sharing (NOT "Simple
> Networking") is simply an authentication method.  Please read my articles, for
> details.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
>
> Run CPSServ on both computers, and post results.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.

>

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:02 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hi everybody
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>> >> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>> >> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>> >> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>> >> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>> >> >> >driving me nuts!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>> >> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>> >> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>> >> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >HELP!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thanks
>> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >Greg
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Greg,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
>> >> >> current nym here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
>> >> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
>> >> >> open mind.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
>> >> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
>> >> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
>> >> >> browstat!):
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Chuck,
>> >> >
>> >> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
>> >> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
>> >> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
>> >> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
>> >> >possible.
>> >> >
>> >> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>> >> >
>> >> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> >> >
>> >> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >> >
>> >> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >> >
>> >> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
>> >> >
>> >> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
>> >> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
>> >> >
>> >> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
>> >> >
>> >> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> >> >
>> >> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> >> >
>> >> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
>> >> >
>> >> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >> >
>> >> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >> >
>> >> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >> >
>> >> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
>> >> >
>> >> >                                            192.168.0.1
>> >> >
>> >> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >> >
>> >> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
>> >> >5:05:53 PM
>> >> >
>> >> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
>> >> >5:05:53 PM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
>> >> >
>> >> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
>> >> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
>> >> >
>> >> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
>> >> >can provide would be great!
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >Regards
>> >> >Greg
>> >>
>> >> Greg,
>> >>
>> >> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
>> >> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
>> >> PSTools (free) too.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
>> >>
>> >> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
>> >> after my replies.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Thanks Chuck,
>> >
>> >I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
>> >
>> >Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
>> >that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
>> >
>> >If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
>> >Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
>> >
>> >As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
>> >recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
>> >
>> >A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
>> >Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
>> >and the other FAT32....
>> >
>> >Thanks again for your help.
>> >
>> >Best Regards
>> >Greg
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> File Sharing (ie Windows Networking) can use any of several protocols.  Most
>> common is SMBs over NetBT.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
>>
>> With Windows XP / 2000, you can have SMBs directly hosted over IP.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
>>
>> Protocol is not related to file sharing type.  Simple File Sharing (NOT "Simple
>> Networking") is simply an authentication method.  Please read my articles, for
>> details.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
>>
>> Run CPSServ on both computers, and post results.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
>Hi Chuck
>
>I will be onsite tommorrow and will run CPSServ on each PC and post the
>results.
>
>Thanks
>Regards
>Greg

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:55:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:02 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Hi everybody
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >> >> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >> >> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >> >> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >> >> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >> >> >> >driving me nuts!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >> >> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >> >> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >> >> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >HELP!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >> >Greg
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Greg,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> >> >> >> current nym here.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> >> >> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> >> >> >> open mind.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> >> >> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> >> >> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> >> >> >> browstat!):
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi Chuck,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
> >> >> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
> >> >> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
> >> >> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
> >> >> >possible.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Windows IP Configuration
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
> >> >> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
> >> >> >
> >> >> >                                            192.168.0.1
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
> >> >> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
> >> >> >can provide would be great!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >Greg
> >> >>
> >> >> Greg,
> >> >>
> >> >> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
> >> >> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
> >> >> PSTools (free) too.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
> >> >>
> >> >> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
> >> >> after my replies.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Thanks Chuck,
> >> >
> >> >I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
> >> >
> >> >Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
> >> >that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
> >> >
> >> >If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
> >> >Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
> >> >
> >> >As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
> >> >recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> >A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
> >> >Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
> >> >and the other FAT32....
> >> >
> >> >Thanks again for your help.
> >> >
> >> >Best Regards
> >> >Greg
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> File Sharing (ie Windows Networking) can use any of several protocols.  Most
> >> common is SMBs over NetBT.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
> >>
> >> With Windows XP / 2000, you can have SMBs directly hosted over IP.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
> >>
> >> Protocol is not related to file sharing type.  Simple File Sharing (NOT "Simple
> >> Networking") is simply an authentication method.  Please read my articles, for
> >> details.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
> >>
> >> Run CPSServ on both computers, and post results.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >
> >Hi Chuck
> >
> >I will be onsite tommorrow and will run CPSServ on each PC and post the
> >results.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Regards
> >Greg
>
> Good, Greg.  If you stick around the site for a while, we may have a few more
> diagnostics too.  Be patient and persistent.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:55:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:02 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Hi everybody
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>> >> >> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>> >> >> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>> >> >> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>> >> >> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>> >> >> >> >driving me nuts!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>> >> >> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>> >> >> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>> >> >> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >HELP!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Thanks
>> >> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >> >Greg
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Greg,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
>> >> >> >> current nym here.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
>> >> >> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
>> >> >> >> open mind.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
>> >> >> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
>> >> >> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
>> >> >> >> browstat!):
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hi Chuck,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
>> >> >> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
>> >> >> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
>> >> >> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
>> >> >> >possible.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
>> >> >> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >                                            192.168.0.1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
>> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
>> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
>> >> >> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
>> >> >> >can provide would be great!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thanks
>> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >Greg
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Greg,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
>> >> >> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
>> >> >> PSTools (free) too.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
>> >> >> after my replies.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks Chuck,
>> >> >
>> >> >I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
>> >> >
>> >> >Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
>> >> >that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
>> >> >
>> >> >If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
>> >> >Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
>> >> >
>> >> >As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
>> >> >recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> >A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
>> >> >Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
>> >> >and the other FAT32....
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks again for your help.
>> >> >
>> >> >Best Regards
>> >> >Greg
>> >>
>> >> Greg,
>> >>
>> >> File Sharing (ie Windows Networking) can use any of several protocols.  Most
>> >> common is SMBs over NetBT.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
>> >>
>> >> With Windows XP / 2000, you can have SMBs directly hosted over IP.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
>> >>
>> >> Protocol is not related to file sharing type.  Simple File Sharing (NOT "Simple
>> >> Networking") is simply an authentication method.  Please read my articles, for
>> >> details.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
>> >>
>> >> Run CPSServ on both computers, and post results.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >
>> >Hi Chuck
>> >
>> >I will be onsite tommorrow and will run CPSServ on each PC and post the
>> >results.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Regards
>> >Greg
>>
>> Good, Greg.  If you stick around the site for a while, we may have a few more
>> diagnostics too.  Be patient and persistent.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>>
>
>Hi Chuck,
>
>Ok, here is what I found when I went onsite to see what was happening.
>
>Prior to going onsite, I setup 2 notebooks using wireless and configured
>them so that file sharing was working fine so thatI could take them with me
>to see if they worked attached to the client network.
>
>In a nutshell, it appears that the main problem was that the wireless
>network was not robust enough and was dropping out. To refresh your memory,
>the network was only 2 PC's (notebook (PC1) and a desktop(PC2)) with each
>connecting to the router wirelessly (did I read somewhere that this can cause
>a problem with establishing a PC as the master broswer?). Anyway, I removed
>the wireless NIC from PC2 and connected it direct to the router via CAT5
>cable and its onboard NIC. I then tried to "repair" the connection by right
>clicking the connection in Windows. This did not work and came up with an
>error regarding NetBT. I then did an ipconfig /renew and all started to
>work!!!
>
>The 2 notebooks that I brought worked fine and could see each other when
>connected to the wireless network. I then set up a batch file that copied a
>number of large files backwards and forwards across the network in a loop so
>that I could test the robustnest of the network. This test showed me that the
>wireless connection for PC1 was a problem and at one stage I could not get it
>to work at all!
>
>I then moved PC1 near to the router and connected it via CAT5. I then did an
>ipconfig /renew on PC1 and everything worked again!
>
>I then re-established the wireless connection in PC1 whilst it was near the
>router (within 1 meter) and tested again with the batch file. Everything
>worked fine so I then relocated it back in its orginal location in another
>room and tested again. The connection strength was fluctuating around 65% and
>therefore was causing intermittent drop outs.
>
>I relocated the wireless aerial on PC1 and the strength went up to 100% and
>no more drop outs.
>
>I have told the client that the MUST install a CAT5 cable to connect PC1 to
>the router......problem solved.
>
>Chuck, I hope the above makes sense. Again thanks for your help and I look
>forward to reading ALL of the information on your great website.
>
>Regards
>Greg

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:12:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:55:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:02 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 01:13:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:04:01 -0700, Lateral <Late***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Hi everybody
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> >> >> >> >> >router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> >> >> >> >> >can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> >> >> >> >> >these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> >> >> >> >> >PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> >> >> >> >> >driving me nuts!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> >> >> >> >> >I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> >> >> >> >> >Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> >> >> >> >> >checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >HELP!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >> >> >Greg
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi Greg,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Have you posted here before, maybe using a different nym?  I can't find your
> >> >> >> >> current nym here.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> A misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or other security component is
> >> >> >> >> the most likely, but not the only possible, problem. Read this article with an
> >> >> >> >> open mind.
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Or provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net
> >> >> >> >> config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose the problem.  Read
> >> >> >> >> this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
> >> >> >> >> browstat!):
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Hi Chuck,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Just to provide you with some more information. I am connecting remotely to
> >> >> >> >the 2 PC's that have the problem so it will be a few days before I can get
> >> >> >> >the information you need in full. Also, I only really want "Simple
> >> >> >> >Networking" as there are only 2 PC's and I want to keep things as simple as
> >> >> >> >possible.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The following is an ipconfig from one of the PC's:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Windows IP Configuration
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : BigPond
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : BigPond
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
> >> >> >> >Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-E9-AD-78-F8
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >                                            192.168.0.1
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 2 September 2006
> >> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, 9 September 2006
> >> >> >> >5:05:53 PM
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Why is The "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled"???
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I have manually set the "Netbios over TCP/IP" setting to enable but the
> >> >> >> >ipconfig still says that it is disable (I rebooted after making the change)..
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I am going to have to go out onsite to resolve this issue so any help you
> >> >> >> >can provide would be great!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >> >Greg
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Greg,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In your case, I'll recommend CPSServ, run from each computer (relational
> >> >> >> analysis works best with multiple, redundant views).  Remember to download
> >> >> >> PSTools (free) too.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And since we may spend a while discussing this, you'll help us both by replying
> >> >> >> after my replies.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks Chuck,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I will try to remember to reply at the bottom of the post in future.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Am I correct in assuming that in order to get "simple networking" working
> >> >> >that Netbios over TCP/IP needs to be enabled?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If this is true, then does the fact that the IPCONFIG shows "NetBIOS over
> >> >> >Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled" represent a problem?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >As I will be forced to attend the site tommorrow, any suggestions and
> >> >> >recommendation that you may have would be appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A few things that I forgot to mention is that both PC's were upgraded to XP
> >> >> >Pro (one from XP Home and the other from Millenium). One is also using NTFS
> >> >> >and the other FAT32....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks again for your help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Best Regards
> >> >> >Greg
> >> >>
> >> >> Greg,
> >> >>
> >> >> File Sharing (ie Windows Networking) can use any of several protocols.  Most
> >> >> common is SMBs over NetBT.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
> >> >>
> >> >> With Windows XP / 2000, you can have SMBs directly hosted over IP.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Protocol is not related to file sharing type.  Simple File Sharing (NOT "Simple
> >> >> Networking") is simply an authentication method.  Please read my articles, for
> >> >> details.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Run CPSServ on both computers, and post results.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >
> >> >Hi Chuck
> >> >
> >> >I will be onsite tommorrow and will run CPSServ on each PC and post the
> >> >results.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >Regards
> >> >Greg
> >>
> >> Good, Greg.  If you stick around the site for a while, we may have a few more
> >> diagnostics too.  Be patient and persistent.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >>
> >
> >Hi Chuck,
> >
> >Ok, here is what I found when I went onsite to see what was happening.
> >
> >Prior to going onsite, I setup 2 notebooks using wireless and configured
> >them so that file sharing was working fine so thatI could take them with me
> >to see if they worked attached to the client network.
> >
> >In a nutshell, it appears that the main problem was that the wireless
> >network was not robust enough and was dropping out. To refresh your memory,
> >the network was only 2 PC's (notebook (PC1) and a desktop(PC2)) with each
> >connecting to the router wirelessly (did I read somewhere that this can cause
> >a problem with establishing a PC as the master broswer?). Anyway, I removed
> >the wireless NIC from PC2 and connected it direct to the router via CAT5
> >cable and its onboard NIC. I then tried to "repair" the connection by right
> >clicking the connection in Windows. This did not work and came up with an
> >error regarding NetBT. I then did an ipconfig /renew and all started to
> >work!!!
> >
> >The 2 notebooks that I brought worked fine and could see each other when
> >connected to the wireless network. I then set up a batch file that copied a
> >number of large files backwards and forwards across the network in a loop so
> >that I could test the robustnest of the network. This test showed me that the
> >wireless connection for PC1 was a problem and at one stage I could not get it
> >to work at all!
> >
> >I then moved PC1 near to the router and connected it via CAT5. I then did an
> >ipconfig /renew on PC1 and everything worked again!
> >
> >I then re-established the wireless connection in PC1 whilst it was near the
> >router (within 1 meter) and tested again with the batch file. Everything
> >worked fine so I then relocated it back in its orginal location in another
> >room and tested again. The connection strength was fluctuating around 65% and
> >therefore was causing intermittent drop outs.
> >
> >I relocated the wireless aerial on PC1 and the strength went up to 100% and
> >no more drop outs.
> >
> >I have told the client that the MUST install a CAT5 cable to connect PC1 to
> >the router......problem solved.
> >
> >Chuck, I hope the above makes sense. Again thanks for your help and I look
> >forward to reading ALL of the information on your great website.
> >
> >Regards
> >Greg
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Congrats, I think you're on the right track.
>
> The browser system depends upon reliable communication between the master
> browser and the other browsers.  If communication gets broken, which is normal
> for WiFi periodically, you can end up with 2 master browsers, and a segmented
> workgroup.  It sounds like you were seeing a variant of that.  If you have a
> network with just 2 computers, you should disable the browser on the second
> computer.
>
> WiFi is tricky to work with, too.  It isn't a replacement for Ethernet, period.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/proper-network-design.html#WiFi>

"Lateral" wrote:

> Hi everybody
>
> I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>
> They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
> router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
> can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
> these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>
> I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
> PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
> driving me nuts!
>
> They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
> I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
> Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
> checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>
> HELP!
>
> Thanks
> Regards
> Greg

>"Lateral" wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody
>>
>> I am pulling my hair out trying to get 2 PC's talking...
>>
>> They both are running XP SP2. PC1 is a Notebook connected to a wireless
>> router and PC2 is connected via Cat5 Cabling to the router also. They both
>> can access the Internet happily but after many many hours of trying to get
>> these two PC's to talk and share folder.....I need help!
>>
>> I have followed all of the "how to" stuff. PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping
>> PC1 but neither can see the other via "My Network Places". It is really
>> driving me nuts!
>>
>> They both have been configured to be part of a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".
>> I have manually turned on "Netbios over TCP/IP" on both PC's. I have disabled
>> Windows Firewall as this is the only firewall that they are using. I have
>> checked the router to make sure that it does not have any "funny" settings.
>>
>> HELP!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Regards
>> Greg

>I appear to have a similar problem.  Two PCs connected through a router via
>Cat5 cable and one wireless laptop connected through the same router.  Until
>a few weeks ago they could all share files and printers, and an internet
>connection through the router.  Now the only thing that works is the internet
>connection.
>
>The PCs can each ping the other, but when I try to open the network drive I
>have mapped to the other PC I now get "path not found".
>
>I am suspicious that this may be related to my recent switch to Wildblue
>satelite internet service, but so far I have not been able to find any
>changed config settings that would affect the ability to share files and
>printers.  Any suggestions?