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XP: Need to change 'workstation' service so it loads LAST because i have problems. (delay at boot)

Author
4 Sep 2006 11:14 PM
flexy
i have a problem experiencing a 20sec delay booting XP SP2, and i
figured out the reason for
this delay is the "workstation" service which looks for files/folders
in my little private network.

The PROBLEM now is that this delay (while 'workstation' gets the list
of files/folders on a laptop in the network) the whole boot-process
HALTS/delays - until the network-icon pop-ups in the tray and the boot
finishes.

The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
The applications are running but their icons are not shown.

So...i was reading into changing the order of services, and.or putting
'workstation' in a new 'servicegrouporder' in the registry which i
made.."loadlast". But this didnt help at all.

Also..i was looking at several ways to delay sevices with dependencies,
but then i really dont know what service loads "last" and to put a
dependency of "workstation" service so it loads after the LAST service
started.

I also checked GPE and made a policy to logon only after network
initializion...but this didnt work either.

SHORT: I need "workstation" service *preferably" starting as the LAST
thing in my system so, after everything else is loaded the computer
looks at the network for files/folders LAST.

Author
5 Sep 2006 4:54 AM
Aaron Kelley
Hello, just so you know...
This newsgroup is for dealing with issues specific to 64-bit versions of
Windows.  If you are running XP SP2, you may have better luck posting in one
of the Windows XP newsgroups.

- Aaron

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"flexy" <gwra***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157411670.387872.40880@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>i have a problem experiencing a 20sec delay booting XP SP2, and i
> figured out the reason for
> this delay is the "workstation" service which looks for files/folders
> in my little private network.
>
> The PROBLEM now is that this delay (while 'workstation' gets the list
> of files/folders on a laptop in the network) the whole boot-process
> HALTS/delays - until the network-icon pop-ups in the tray and the boot
> finishes.
>
> The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
> messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
> icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
> The applications are running but their icons are not shown.
>
> So...i was reading into changing the order of services, and.or putting
> 'workstation' in a new 'servicegrouporder' in the registry which i
> made.."loadlast". But this didnt help at all.
>
> Also..i was looking at several ways to delay sevices with dependencies,
> but then i really dont know what service loads "last" and to put a
> dependency of "workstation" service so it loads after the LAST service
> started.
>
> I also checked GPE and made a policy to logon only after network
> initializion...but this didnt work either.
>
> SHORT: I need "workstation" service *preferably" starting as the LAST
> thing in my system so, after everything else is loaded the computer
> looks at the network for files/folders LAST.
>
Author
5 Sep 2006 3:58 PM
Grand_Poohbah
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"Aaron Kelley" wrote:

> Hello, just so you know...
> This newsgroup is for dealing with issues specific to 64-bit versions of
> Windows.  If you are running XP SP2, you may have better luck posting in one
> of the Windows XP newsgroups.
>
>  - Aaron
>
> "flexy" <gwra***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157411670.387872.40880@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >i have a problem experiencing a 20sec delay booting XP SP2, and i
> > figured out the reason for
> > this delay is the "workstation" service which looks for files/folders
> > in my little private network.
> >
> > The PROBLEM now is that this delay (while 'workstation' gets the list
> > of files/folders on a laptop in the network) the whole boot-process
> > HALTS/delays - until the network-icon pop-ups in the tray and the boot
> > finishes.
> >
> > The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
> > messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
> > icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
> > The applications are running but their icons are not shown.
> >
> > So...i was reading into changing the order of services, and.or putting
> > 'workstation' in a new 'servicegrouporder' in the registry which i
> > made.."loadlast". But this didnt help at all.
> >
> > Also..i was looking at several ways to delay sevices with dependencies,
> > but then i really dont know what service loads "last" and to put a
> > dependency of "workstation" service so it loads after the LAST service
> > started.
> >
> > I also checked GPE and made a policy to logon only after network
> > initializion...but this didnt work either.
> >
> > SHORT: I need "workstation" service *preferably" starting as the LAST
> > thing in my system so, after everything else is loaded the computer
> > looks at the network for files/folders LAST.
> >
>
>
>
Author
5 Sep 2006 4:01 PM
Grand_Poohbah
Aaron - this IS the Windows XP SP2 newsgroup -- the WinXP64-bit newsgroup is
another newsgroup.

I have NO idea why my last post contained nothing.

GP

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"Aaron Kelley" wrote:

> Hello, just so you know...
> This newsgroup is for dealing with issues specific to 64-bit versions of
> Windows.  If you are running XP SP2, you may have better luck posting in one
> of the Windows XP newsgroups.
>
>  - Aaron
>
> "flexy" <gwra***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157411670.387872.40880@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >i have a problem experiencing a 20sec delay booting XP SP2, and i
> > figured out the reason for
> > this delay is the "workstation" service which looks for files/folders
> > in my little private network.
> >
> > The PROBLEM now is that this delay (while 'workstation' gets the list
> > of files/folders on a laptop in the network) the whole boot-process
> > HALTS/delays - until the network-icon pop-ups in the tray and the boot
> > finishes.
> >
> > The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
> > messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
> > icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
> > The applications are running but their icons are not shown.
> >
> > So...i was reading into changing the order of services, and.or putting
> > 'workstation' in a new 'servicegrouporder' in the registry which i
> > made.."loadlast". But this didnt help at all.
> >
> > Also..i was looking at several ways to delay sevices with dependencies,
> > but then i really dont know what service loads "last" and to put a
> > dependency of "workstation" service so it loads after the LAST service
> > started.
> >
> > I also checked GPE and made a policy to logon only after network
> > initializion...but this didnt work either.
> >
> > SHORT: I need "workstation" service *preferably" starting as the LAST
> > thing in my system so, after everything else is loaded the computer
> > looks at the network for files/folders LAST.
> >
>
>
>
Author
5 Sep 2006 5:14 PM
Jud Hendrix
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:01:02 -0700, Grand_Poohbah
<GrandPooh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Aaron - this IS the Windows XP SP2 newsgroup -- the WinXP64-bit newsgroup is
>another newsgroup.

Actually, this message is cross-posted to 3 groups, so you're both correct
:-))

jud
Author
5 Sep 2006 9:09 PM
Aaron Kelley
I apologize, I didn't see the cross-posting.  :-P

- Aaron

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"Jud Hendrix" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:01:02 -0700, Grand_Poohbah
> <GrandPooh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Aaron - this IS the Windows XP SP2 newsgroup -- the WinXP64-bit newsgroup
>>is
>>another newsgroup.
>
> Actually, this message is cross-posted to 3 groups, so you're both correct
> :-))
>
> jud
Author
6 Sep 2006 5:37 AM
DP
"Jud Hendrix" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:01:02 -0700, Grand_Poohbah
> <GrandPooh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Aaron - this IS the Windows XP SP2 newsgroup -- the WinXP64-bit newsgroup
>>is
>>another newsgroup.
>
> Actually, this message is cross-posted to 3 groups, so you're both correct
> :-))
>
> jud

Wow! Seems like we've entered some kind of spatial newsgroup warp where a
statement and its exact opposite are both true simultaneously!
Author
6 Sep 2006 8:26 AM
Jud Hendrix
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:37:43 -0500, "DP" <nospamxx@xyzddd.com> wrote:

>Wow! Seems like we've entered some kind of spatial newsgroup warp where a
>statement and its exact opposite are both true simultaneously!

It's like politics.....

:-))

j
Author
6 Sep 2006 2:38 PM
Colin Barnhorst
No, its like my wife.

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"Jud Hendrix" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:37:43 -0500, "DP" <nospamxx@xyzddd.com> wrote:
>
>>Wow! Seems like we've entered some kind of spatial newsgroup warp where a
>>statement and its exact opposite are both true simultaneously!
>
> It's like politics.....
>
> :-))
>
> j
Author
6 Sep 2006 3:10 PM
Jud Hendrix
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:38:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<colinbarharst(remo***@msn.com> wrote:

>No, its like my wife.

Is your wife a sister of Rumsfeld? :-))

jud
Author
6 Sep 2006 4:47 PM
Colin Barnhorst
No, she is related to Hillary.

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"Jud Hendrix" <n***@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:38:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <colinbarharst(remo***@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>No, its like my wife.
>
> Is your wife a sister of Rumsfeld? :-))
>
> jud
Author
6 Sep 2006 7:28 PM
Jud Hendrix
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:47:15 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<colinbarharst(remo***@msn.com> wrote:

>No, she is related to Hillary.

I thinking more along
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/38078000/rm/_38078601_rummer.ram

;-)

j
Author
5 Sep 2006 6:17 AM
Jud Hendrix
On 4 Sep 2006 16:14:30 -0700, "flexy" <gwra***@gmail.com> wrote:

>The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
>messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
>icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
>The applications are running but their icons are not shown.

Right click your Taskbar, and in the Taskbar tab click Customize. You get a
list of applications which show up in the tray, and if you click the
behavior, you can select to set them to Hide When Inactive or Always Show
or Always Hide. I leave it up to you to select what status you should set
it for your applications ;-)

jud
Author
5 Sep 2006 11:14 PM
flexy
Jud Hendrix wrote:
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> On 4 Sep 2006 16:14:30 -0700, "flexy" <gwra***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The problem is NOT the 20 seconds....but the fact that this delay
> >messes up some icons in the tray...certain applications wont show their
> >icons in the tray. (Eg. virus checker, MBM5 etc.).
> >The applications are running but their icons are not shown.
>
> Right click your Taskbar, and in the Taskbar tab click Customize. You get a
> list of applications which show up in the tray, and if you click the
> behavior, you can select to set them to Hide When Inactive or Always Show
> or Always Hide. I leave it up to you to select what status you should set
> it for your applications ;-)
>
> jud

Ehrm,,.apologize for the crossposting to the 64bit group...i didnt use
a newsreader but instead posted via google, and google "mangled" the
group-names so i didnt even see the "64bit" part :)

As for the icons: I know that....but it wouldnt solve my problem. The
problem is rather general nature *I ASSUME* caused by the order how
programs are started...and the fact that the workstation-lookup delays
things. It also depends eg. on things like defragmentation of my
HD....and how fast things are loaded....the problem rather is the
unpredicatable behavior...and never knoiing when/if some application
wil show the icons or not. I will give the "hide icons" method a try,
tho.

But i found a dirty workaround, too :)

I set "workstation" service to "manual" and then execute the cmd-line
"SC start lanmanworkstation" in the startup-folder. Since
startup-foalder gets executed last in the boot-process.

So..all my stuff loads...and fairly at the end i manually start the
service :)