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Author
11 Sep 2006 5:35 AM
Newtechie
I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs on
the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?

Thanks in advance,
newtechie

Author
11 Sep 2006 7:16 AM
jmwills
You need a wireless router or Access Point, and frnakly I would buy the
router and turn off the DHCP function on the wireless router.  The wireless
router will be cheaper than an access point.
More than likely your laptop has a built in wireless adapter, if not get one
and match it to the same brand as the wireless router or access point you
buy.  In case you need technical assistance, the compnay can not point the
finger at someone else.
--
MCP (2K) Net+, A+
Server-Networking MVP


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"Newtechie" wrote:

> I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
> own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
> purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs on
> the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> newtechie
>
>
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 10:51 AM
Bob Willard
Newtechie wrote:

> I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
> own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
> purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs on
> the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> newtechie
>
>

If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will be
able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
just as you now do.

You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you can,
since it is more secure than WEP.
--
Cheers, Bob
Author
11 Sep 2006 11:04 AM
jmwills
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html

Good threads to bookmark.
--
MCP (2K) Net+, A+
Server-Networking MVP


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"Bob Willard" wrote:

> Newtechie wrote:
>
> > I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> > desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> > connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
> > own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
> > purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs on
> > the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > newtechie
> >
> >
>
> If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
> router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will be
> able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
> just as you now do.
>
> You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you can,
> since it is more secure than WEP.
> --
> Cheers, Bob
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 3:54 PM
Newtechie
Thank all of you for your help to get me started.  I'm sure I'll have more
questions but I'll read first and the get my tools in place before posting
again.  I have one more quick question.  What's an Access Point?

newtechie

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"jmwills" <jmwi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
> http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
>
> Good threads to bookmark.
> --
> MCP (2K) Net+, A+
> Server-Networking MVP
>
>
> "Bob Willard" wrote:
>
> > Newtechie wrote:
> >
> > > I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> > > desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> > > connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on
it's
> > > own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need
to
> > > purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other
pcs on
> > > the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > newtechie
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
> > router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will be
> > able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
> > just as you now do.
> >
> > You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you can,
> > since it is more secure than WEP.
> > --
> > Cheers, Bob
> >
Author
11 Sep 2006 5:49 PM
Bob Willard
Newtechie wrote:

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> Thank all of you for your help to get me started.  I'm sure I'll have more
> questions but I'll read first and the get my tools in place before posting
> again.  I have one more quick question.  What's an Access Point?
>
> newtechie
>
> "jmwills" <jmwi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2691E463-1217-4447-B177-786BCAE5BFAD@microsoft.com...
>
>>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
>>http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
>>http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
>>
>>Good threads to bookmark.
>>--
>>MCP (2K) Net+, A+
>>Server-Networking MVP
>>
>>
>>"Bob Willard" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Newtechie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
>>>>desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
>>>>connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on
>
> it's
>
>>>>own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need
>
> to
>
>>>>purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other
>
> pcs on
>
>>>>the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>newtechie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
>>>router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will be
>>>able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
>>>just as you now do.
>>>
>>>You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you can,
>>>since it is more secure than WEP.
>>>--
>>>Cheers, Bob
>>>
>
>
>

An AP is a wired-to-wireless transducer; it allows wireless widgets to connect to
a wired network.

Because APs are low-volume compared to combo AP+switch+routers, those wireless
routers are frequently cheaper than simple APs.
--
Cheers, Bob
Author
11 Sep 2006 7:07 PM
Newtechie
So which is better to get - an AP or wireless router?  There was an
comparison chart on amazon for WAP vs Wireless router and the router had
more yeses than the access point.  So I'll assume according to the chart
than the router is better but I'm unsure.

newtechie


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"Bob Willard" <BobwB***@TrashThis.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Newtechie wrote:
>
> > Thank all of you for your help to get me started.  I'm sure I'll have
more
> > questions but I'll read first and the get my tools in place before
posting
> > again.  I have one more quick question.  What's an Access Point?
> >
> > newtechie
> >
> > "jmwills" <jmwi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:2691E463-1217-4447-B177-786BCAE5BFAD@microsoft.com...
> >
> >>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
> >>http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
> >>http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
> >>
> >>Good threads to bookmark.
> >>--
> >>MCP (2K) Net+, A+
> >>Server-Networking MVP
> >>
> >>
> >>"Bob Willard" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Newtechie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> >>>>desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> >>>>connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on
> >
> > it's
> >
> >>>>own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>>purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other
> >
> > pcs on
> >
> >>>>the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks in advance,
> >>>>newtechie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
> >>>router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will
be
> >>>able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
> >>>just as you now do.
> >>>
> >>>You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you
can,
> >>>since it is more secure than WEP.
> >>>--
> >>>Cheers, Bob
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
> An AP is a wired-to-wireless transducer; it allows wireless widgets to
connect to
> a wired network.
>
> Because APs are low-volume compared to combo AP+switch+routers, those
wireless
> routers are frequently cheaper than simple APs.
> --
> Cheers, Bob
Author
11 Sep 2006 8:16 PM
John Weiss
Since you are familiar with your Linksys router, simply buy a Linksys WRT54G
wired/wireless router to replace the old router.  The wired portion is
identical to what you have, and the wireless configuration is relatively
easy.  Once the wireless configuration is set up on the router and the
Laptop, printing is unchnaged from what you have now.

If you have a built-in wireless card in the laptop, you need no more
hardware.  If not, buy a Linksys PC-Card wireless card for the laptop.

When you set up the wireless part of the router, follow the instructions to
set up WPA security.  Copy down the SSID and Security codes you enter,
because you will need them for the laptop setup.


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"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> So which is better to get - an AP or wireless router?  There was an
> comparison chart on amazon for WAP vs Wireless router and the router had
> more yeses than the access point.  So I'll assume according to the chart
> than the router is better but I'm unsure.
>>
>>>Newtechie wrote:
>>>
>>>I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
>>>desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
>>>connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
>>>own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
>>>purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs
>>>on
>>>the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
Author
11 Sep 2006 9:26 PM
Newtechie
Hi John.  I think I'd have to buy a wireless card.  Do you know if the
Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G card is any good?  It says it operates 2.4 ghz.
Are there any faster or is that pretty good?

newtechie

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"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> wrote in
message news:OE713%23d1GHA.968@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Since you are familiar with your Linksys router, simply buy a Linksys
WRT54G
> wired/wireless router to replace the old router.  The wired portion is
> identical to what you have, and the wireless configuration is relatively
> easy.  Once the wireless configuration is set up on the router and the
> Laptop, printing is unchnaged from what you have now.
>
> If you have a built-in wireless card in the laptop, you need no more
> hardware.  If not, buy a Linksys PC-Card wireless card for the laptop.
>
> When you set up the wireless part of the router, follow the instructions
to
> set up WPA security.  Copy down the SSID and Security codes you enter,
> because you will need them for the laptop setup.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> > So which is better to get - an AP or wireless router?  There was an
> > comparison chart on amazon for WAP vs Wireless router and the router had
> > more yeses than the access point.  So I'll assume according to the chart
> > than the router is better but I'm unsure.
> >>
> >>>Newtechie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> >>>desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> >>>connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on
it's
> >>>own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need
to
> >>>purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other
pcs
> >>>on
> >>>the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
>
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 10:06 PM
John Weiss
"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> Hi John.  I think I'd have to buy a wireless card.  Do you know if the
> Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G card is any good?  It says it operates 2.4 ghz.
> Are there any faster or is that pretty good?

If you're going to buy both a router and a card, go for the WRT54GS and
WPC54GS for about $10 more each.  The S at the end is for "Speedbooster,"
which increases range and throughput when the compatible pair (router and
card) are used together.  They also work as regular Wireless-G with
non-Speedbooster systems.  I have them (as well as WMP54GS for my basement
desktop) at home.

The "2.4 GHz" is the radio band, not the throughput.  Wireless-G is designed
for 54 Mbps, but nominal throughput is closer to 20 at typical ranges.  With
Speedbooster, you may close to double that.

Another advantage is that both are able to use WPA2 security.

Just stay away from the "Wireless N" stuff.  It's not "ready for prime time"
yet.
Author
11 Sep 2006 10:40 PM
Newtechie
Thanks for your thorough explanation of the differences.  How much of a
difference would I see if the router is in a different room than the laptop?


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"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> wrote in
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> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> > Hi John.  I think I'd have to buy a wireless card.  Do you know if the
> > Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G card is any good?  It says it operates 2.4
ghz.
> > Are there any faster or is that pretty good?
>
> If you're going to buy both a router and a card, go for the WRT54GS and
> WPC54GS for about $10 more each.  The S at the end is for "Speedbooster,"
> which increases range and throughput when the compatible pair (router and
> card) are used together.  They also work as regular Wireless-G with
> non-Speedbooster systems.  I have them (as well as WMP54GS for my basement
> desktop) at home.
>
> The "2.4 GHz" is the radio band, not the throughput.  Wireless-G is
designed
> for 54 Mbps, but nominal throughput is closer to 20 at typical ranges.
With
> Speedbooster, you may close to double that.
>
> Another advantage is that both are able to use WPA2 security.
>
> Just stay away from the "Wireless N" stuff.  It's not "ready for prime
time"
> yet.
>
>
Author
12 Sep 2006 2:38 AM
John Weiss
Distance is the primary factor in throughput.  The number and type of walls
is another factor.  Antenna orientation is yet another.

How far?  How many walls in between?  What kind of walls?  Straight shot, or
45 deg angle from the wall orientation?  Same floor or 2 floors up/down?

If the answer is 1 or 2 walls, sheetrock, 20-30 feet, same floor, straight
shot; then the throughput is probably "nominal" .


"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> Thanks for your thorough explanation of the differences.  How much of a
> difference would I see if the router is in a different room than the
> laptop?


>> If you're going to buy both a router and a card, go for the WRT54GS and
WPC54GS for about $10 more each.  The S at the end is for "Speedbooster,"
which increases range and throughput when the compatible pair (router and
card) are used together.  They also work as regular Wireless-G with
non-Speedbooster systems.  I have them (as well as WMP54GS for my basement
desktop) at home.
>
>> The "2.4 GHz" is the radio band, not the throughput.  Wireless-G is
designed for 54 Mbps, but nominal throughput is closer to 20 at typical
ranges. With Speedbooster, you may close to double that.  Another advantage
is that both are able to use WPA2 security.
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>
>> Just stay away from the "Wireless N" stuff.  It's not "ready for prime
>> time" yet.
Author
12 Sep 2006 1:49 PM
Newtechie
Hi John,

I live in an apt.  My office area is between the living room and bedroom.
I'd say it's about 20-25 ft from the office to the living room with a sheet
rock wall in between.  The bedroom is maybe 15ft from the office separate by
a wall also.  All of this is on the same floor.

What do you mean by nominal?


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> Distance is the primary factor in throughput.  The number and type of
walls
> is another factor.  Antenna orientation is yet another.
>
> How far?  How many walls in between?  What kind of walls?  Straight shot,
or
> 45 deg angle from the wall orientation?  Same floor or 2 floors up/down?
>
> If the answer is 1 or 2 walls, sheetrock, 20-30 feet, same floor, straight
> shot; then the throughput is probably "nominal" .
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote...
> > Thanks for your thorough explanation of the differences.  How much of a
> > difference would I see if the router is in a different room than the
> > laptop?
>
>
> >> If you're going to buy both a router and a card, go for the WRT54GS and
> WPC54GS for about $10 more each.  The S at the end is for "Speedbooster,"
> which increases range and throughput when the compatible pair (router and
> card) are used together.  They also work as regular Wireless-G with
> non-Speedbooster systems.  I have them (as well as WMP54GS for my basement
> desktop) at home.
> >
> >> The "2.4 GHz" is the radio band, not the throughput.  Wireless-G is
> designed for 54 Mbps, but nominal throughput is closer to 20 at typical
> ranges. With Speedbooster, you may close to double that.  Another
advantage
> is that both are able to use WPA2 security.
> >
> >> Just stay away from the "Wireless N" stuff.  It's not "ready for prime
> >> time" yet.
>
>
Author
11 Sep 2006 5:52 PM
jmwills
Access=to gain entry an access point would be an entrance point to a network.
--
MCP (2K) Net+, A+
Server-Networking MVP


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"jmwills" wrote:

> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_sharing.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/default.mspx
> http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
>
> Good threads to bookmark.
> --
> MCP (2K) Net+, A+
> Server-Networking MVP
>
>
> "Bob Willard" wrote:
>
> > Newtechie wrote:
> >
> > > I currently have a wired network which I would like to keep.  I have 2
> > > desktops and a laptop connected to a Linksys router and a broadband
> > > connection.  What I'd like to do is remove the laptop and have it on it's
> > > own network so I can move about the house.  1)What hardware do I need to
> > > purchase?  2)Will I still be able to share files and access the other pcs on
> > > the wired network? and 3)How will printing be affected?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > newtechie
> > >
> > >
> >
> > If your current router does not support wireless, then I'd replace that
> > router with a wired+wireless router.  With the normal setup, you will be
> > able to share F's & P's from the wireless laptop to the wired desktops
> > just as you now do.
> >
> > You can use DHCP or not; your choice.  Make sure you use WAP if you can,
> > since it is more secure than WEP.
> > --
> > Cheers, Bob
> >