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Long Pause when accessing Mapped DriveThank you for reading my post. Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening a file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it takes a while for files and folders to appear. Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients including the server's nic are all unchecked. I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no longer be able to access their POP3 email accounts. My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when accessing a mapped drive. Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you.
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike,>Hello, >Thank you for reading my post. >Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. > >This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening a >file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. > >In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it takes >a while for files and folders to appear. > >Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >including the server's nic are all unchecked. > >I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no longer >be able to access their POP3 email accounts. > >My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >accessing a mapped drive. > >Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help in microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of these computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? Any different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different Internet use? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been noted, or did it start after some notable change? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike,>Hello, >Thank you for reading my post. >Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. > >This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening a >file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. > >In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it takes >a while for files and folders to appear. > >Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >including the server's nic are all unchecked. > >I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no longer >be able to access their POP3 email accounts. > >My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >accessing a mapped drive. > >Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help in microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of these computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? Any different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different Internet use? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been noted, or did it start after some notable change? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck,
I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. Any help or suggestions would be really great. Thanks again Chuck. Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... > On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Hello, >>Thank you for reading my post. >>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >> >>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>a >>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >> >>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>takes >>a while for files and folders to appear. >> >>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >> >>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>longer >>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >> >>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>accessing a mapped drive. >> >>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. > > Mike, > > On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help > in > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? > > Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of > these > computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? > Any > different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different > Internet use? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > > Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been > noted, or > did it start after some notable change? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck,
I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. Any help or suggestions would be really great. Thanks again Chuck. Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... > On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Hello, >>Thank you for reading my post. >>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >> >>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>a >>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >> >>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>takes >>a while for files and folders to appear. >> >>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >> >>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>longer >>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >> >>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>accessing a mapped drive. >> >>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. > > Mike, > > On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help > in > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? > > Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of > these > computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? > Any > different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different > Internet use? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > > Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been > noted, or > did it start after some notable change? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. Mike,
Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from a dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are common configuration errors, all fixable. How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they exist anywhere else, you will have issues. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Chuck, > > I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make > sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to > check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) > > To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this > problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even > with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I > installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on > either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services > alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. > Any help or suggestions would be really great. > > Thanks again Chuck. > > > "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>> >>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>>a >>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>> >>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>takes >>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>> >>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>DNS >>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>> >>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>longer >>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>> >>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>>accessing a mapped drive. >>> >>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >> >> Mike, >> >> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help >> in >> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >> >> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >> these >> computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? >> Any >> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >> different >> Internet use? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >> noted, or >> did it start after some notable change? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. > > Mike,
Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from a dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are common configuration errors, all fixable. How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they exist anywhere else, you will have issues. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Chuck, > > I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make > sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to > check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) > > To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this > problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even > with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I > installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on > either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services > alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. > Any help or suggestions would be really great. > > Thanks again Chuck. > > > "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>> >>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>>a >>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>> >>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>takes >>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>> >>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>DNS >>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>> >>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>longer >>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>> >>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>>accessing a mapped drive. >>> >>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >> >> Mike, >> >> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help >> in >> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >> >> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >> these >> computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? >> Any >> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >> different >> Internet use? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >> noted, or >> did it start after some notable change? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. > > Les,
Thanks so much for answering my post. I have concluded with you that it is in fact a DNS problem. I went ahead and pulled one of the problem workstations and set the DNS pointing to the SBS server and left the secondary blank. I had no delay what so ever when clicking on a mapped drive all throughout today; thus I was logged in as the same user to correctly simulate the problem. I've posted IPConfig/all for both the server and a workstation for veiwing (note IPConfig screenshots represent how server and workstation was setup when the problem was occuring). Les, this creates anothe problem for me. Without that public DNS as the primary on the client machines, my users can not pull messages from their pop3 accounts. I do have the forwarder setup with my ISP's DNS as you will see in the "DNS" attachment, but that does not seem to help even when a clients box DNS is pointed to the SBS. I've also attached a screenshot of my exchange settings in one of the steps on the ICW wizzard. Can exchange handle this? Can you direct me to links are list steps in order to set it up? I have not ventured down that path yet. Please let me know if you have any idea's. For the time being, I'll have to change this client box's dns back to a public so this user can get email. Again, thank you Les for responding to my posts. I'm in the process of getting my MCSE and all of this is giving me lots of hands on learning. regards, Mike Show quoteHide quote "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> [attached file: serverIP.jpg]wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Mike, > > Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS > entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. > > If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from > a > dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. > > If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS > entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with > either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are > common configuration errors, all fixable. > > How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the > SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it > forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS > server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they > exist anywhere else, you will have issues. > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Chuck, >> >> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >> >> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. >> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >> >> Thanks again Chuck. >> >> >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>> >>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>opening >>>>a >>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>> >>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>takes >>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>DNS >>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>(all >>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>> >>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>longer >>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>> >>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>the >>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>when >>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>> >>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>> help >>> in >>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>> >>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>> these >>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>> computers? >>> Any >>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>> different >>> Internet use? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>> >>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>> noted, or >>> did it start after some notable change? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> My email is AT DOT >>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> > > [attached file: ICW.jpg] [attached file: workstationIP.jpg] Les,
Thanks so much for answering my post. I have concluded with you that it is in fact a DNS problem. I went ahead and pulled one of the problem workstations and set the DNS pointing to the SBS server and left the secondary blank. I had no delay what so ever when clicking on a mapped drive all throughout today; thus I was logged in as the same user to correctly simulate the problem. I've posted IPConfig/all for both the server and a workstation for veiwing (note IPConfig screenshots represent how server and workstation was setup when the problem was occuring). Les, this creates anothe problem for me. Without that public DNS as the primary on the client machines, my users can not pull messages from their pop3 accounts. I do have the forwarder setup with my ISP's DNS as you will see in the "DNS" attachment, but that does not seem to help even when a clients box DNS is pointed to the SBS. I've also attached a screenshot of my exchange settings in one of the steps on the ICW wizzard. Can exchange handle this? Can you direct me to links are list steps in order to set it up? I have not ventured down that path yet. Please let me know if you have any idea's. For the time being, I'll have to change this client box's dns back to a public so this user can get email. Again, thank you Les for responding to my posts. I'm in the process of getting my MCSE and all of this is giving me lots of hands on learning. regards, Mike Show quoteHide quote "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> [attached file: serverIP.jpg]wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Mike, > > Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS > entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. > > If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from > a > dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. > > If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS > entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with > either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are > common configuration errors, all fixable. > > How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the > SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it > forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS > server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they > exist anywhere else, you will have issues. > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Chuck, >> >> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >> >> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. >> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >> >> Thanks again Chuck. >> >> >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>> >>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>opening >>>>a >>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>> >>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>takes >>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>DNS >>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>(all >>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>> >>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>longer >>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>> >>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>the >>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>when >>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>> >>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>> help >>> in >>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>> >>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>> these >>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>> computers? >>> Any >>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>> different >>> Internet use? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>> >>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>> noted, or >>> did it start after some notable change? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> My email is AT DOT >>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> > > [attached file: ICW.jpg] [attached file: workstationIP.jpg] Less attached is screen shot of my DNS forwarder
Show quoteHide quote "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> [attached file: DNSFORWARD.jpg]wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Mike, > > Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS > entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. > > If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from > a > dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. > > If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS > entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with > either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are > common configuration errors, all fixable. > > How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the > SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it > forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS > server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they > exist anywhere else, you will have issues. > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Chuck, >> >> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >> >> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. >> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >> >> Thanks again Chuck. >> >> >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>> >>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>opening >>>>a >>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>> >>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>takes >>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>DNS >>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>(all >>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>> >>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>longer >>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>> >>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>the >>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>when >>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>> >>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>> help >>> in >>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>> >>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>> these >>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>> computers? >>> Any >>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>> different >>> Internet use? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>> >>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>> noted, or >>> did it start after some notable change? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> My email is AT DOT >>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> > > Less attached is screen shot of my DNS forwarder
Show quoteHide quote "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> [attached file: DNSFORWARD.jpg]wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Mike, > > Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS > entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. > > If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from > a > dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. > > If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS > entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with > either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These are > common configuration errors, all fixable. > > How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the > SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it > forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS > server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they > exist anywhere else, you will have issues. > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Chuck, >> >> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >> >> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. >> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >> >> Thanks again Chuck. >> >> >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>> >>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>opening >>>>a >>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>> >>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>takes >>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>DNS >>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>(all >>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>> >>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>longer >>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>> >>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>the >>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>when >>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>> >>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>> help >>> in >>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>> >>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>> these >>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>> computers? >>> Any >>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>> different >>> Internet use? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>> >>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>> noted, or >>> did it start after some notable change? >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> My email is AT DOT >>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> > > Hi Mike,
When you do the IPconfig, copy and paste directly into a newsgroup post. It's a lot easier for us to respond. You have different DNS entries on the workstation nics as opposed to the server and DNS forwarders? Why? In any case, you must have absolutely NO external DNS server addresses on any nic on your lan - this includes the SBS server. Get rid of them - and ensure ONLY the IP of the SBS is listed. If in fact your ISP provided DNS server IPs are as you show in the DNS forwarder picture, that's fine. If you cannot get external DNS resolution at this point, then your gateway (router, whatever is at 10.10.10.1 isn't configured properly - or the external DNS servers in your DNS Forwarder settings are not reachable. Your Exchange picture means nothing. Have you run the wizard and actually set up your Exchange? or, are you not using it? What you have there actually has nothing to do with whether pop works or doesn't work, on a workstation pop client. I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a registered domain name? Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. Please run 'ipconfig /all" - there is a space before the slash, and past the results in a reply. I'll add that if you follow the bouncing ball in SBS setup you won't run into these issues. DHCP would be enabled on the SBS, the network settings would be correct, your workstations would be DHCP clients, and they would receive correct settings automatically, based on what you enter in the wizard. And stuff would just work. What you're up against now is trying to correct all the mistakes that can be made by attempting to manually set a fairly complex set of configurations - things the wizard is designed to do, correctly. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23mMQPcR2GHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Less attached is screen shot of my DNS forwarder > > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> > wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Mike, >> >> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS >> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >> >> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from >> a >> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >> >> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS >> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with >> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >> are >> common configuration errors, all fixable. >> >> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the >> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS >> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >> >> -- >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> SBS Rocks ! >> ---------------------- >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >> understand." - Confucius >> >> >> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Chuck, >>> >>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>> to >>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>> >>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>> results...SOON. >>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>> >>> Thanks again Chuck. >>> >>> >>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hello, >>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>> >>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>opening >>>>>a >>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>> >>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>takes >>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>> >>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>>DNS >>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>(all >>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>> >>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>longer >>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>> >>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>the >>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>when >>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>> >>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>> help >>>> in >>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>> >>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>> these >>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>> computers? >>>> Any >>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>> different >>>> Internet use? >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>> >>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>> noted, or >>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>>> My email is AT DOT >>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>> >>> >> >> > > > Hi Mike,
When you do the IPconfig, copy and paste directly into a newsgroup post. It's a lot easier for us to respond. You have different DNS entries on the workstation nics as opposed to the server and DNS forwarders? Why? In any case, you must have absolutely NO external DNS server addresses on any nic on your lan - this includes the SBS server. Get rid of them - and ensure ONLY the IP of the SBS is listed. If in fact your ISP provided DNS server IPs are as you show in the DNS forwarder picture, that's fine. If you cannot get external DNS resolution at this point, then your gateway (router, whatever is at 10.10.10.1 isn't configured properly - or the external DNS servers in your DNS Forwarder settings are not reachable. Your Exchange picture means nothing. Have you run the wizard and actually set up your Exchange? or, are you not using it? What you have there actually has nothing to do with whether pop works or doesn't work, on a workstation pop client. I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a registered domain name? Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. Please run 'ipconfig /all" - there is a space before the slash, and past the results in a reply. I'll add that if you follow the bouncing ball in SBS setup you won't run into these issues. DHCP would be enabled on the SBS, the network settings would be correct, your workstations would be DHCP clients, and they would receive correct settings automatically, based on what you enter in the wizard. And stuff would just work. What you're up against now is trying to correct all the mistakes that can be made by attempting to manually set a fairly complex set of configurations - things the wizard is designed to do, correctly. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23mMQPcR2GHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Less attached is screen shot of my DNS forwarder > > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> > wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Mike, >> >> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external DNS >> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >> >> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run from >> a >> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >> >> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS >> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with >> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >> are >> common configuration errors, all fixable. >> >> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the >> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS >> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >> >> -- >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> SBS Rocks ! >> ---------------------- >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >> understand." - Confucius >> >> >> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Chuck, >>> >>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>> to >>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>> >>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>> results...SOON. >>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>> >>> Thanks again Chuck. >>> >>> >>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hello, >>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>> >>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>opening >>>>>a >>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>> >>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>takes >>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>> >>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>>DNS >>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>(all >>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>> >>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>longer >>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>> >>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>the >>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>when >>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>> >>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>> help >>>> in >>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>> >>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>> these >>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>> computers? >>>> Any >>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>> different >>>> Internet use? >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>> >>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>> noted, or >>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>>> My email is AT DOT >>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>> >>> >> >> > > > Hi Les,
Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server clent ipconfig: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 10.10.10.2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- server ipcofig: Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Les, please see answers to your questions below. > SBS 2000> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. > > Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? > How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in Inputed manually> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? > What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts.> registered domain name? > Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled.> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for internal email as well. thanks again. Show quoteHide quote >> >> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Mike, >>> >>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>> DNS >>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>> >>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>> from a >>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>> >>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS >>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with >>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>> are >>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>> >>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the >>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS >>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>> >>> -- >>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> SBS Rocks ! >>> ---------------------- >>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >>> understand." - Confucius >>> >>> >>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Chuck, >>>> >>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>> make >>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>>> to >>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>> >>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and >>>> I >>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>> results...SOON. >>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>> >>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>> >>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>opening >>>>>>a >>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>> >>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>>takes >>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>> >>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>>>DNS >>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>(all >>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>> >>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>longer >>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>> >>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>>the >>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>when >>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>> >>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>> help >>>>> in >>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>>> these >>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>> computers? >>>>> Any >>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>> different >>>>> Internet use? >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>> >>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>> noted, or >>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>> experience. >>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > Hi Les,
Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server clent ipconfig: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 10.10.10.2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- server ipcofig: Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Les, please see answers to your questions below. > SBS 2000> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. > > Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? > How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in Inputed manually> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? > What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts.> registered domain name? > Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled.> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for internal email as well. thanks again. Show quoteHide quote >> >> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Mike, >>> >>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>> DNS >>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>> >>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>> from a >>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>> >>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external DNS >>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS with >>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>> are >>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>> >>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only the >>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external DNS >>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>> >>> -- >>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> SBS Rocks ! >>> ---------------------- >>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >>> understand." - Confucius >>> >>> >>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Chuck, >>>> >>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>> make >>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>>> to >>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>> >>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even >>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and >>>> I >>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>> results...SOON. >>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>> >>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>> >>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>opening >>>>>>a >>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>> >>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>>takes >>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>> >>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public >>>>>>DNS >>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>(all >>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>> >>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>longer >>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>> >>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>>the >>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>when >>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>> >>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>> help >>>>> in >>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>>> these >>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>> computers? >>>>> Any >>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>> different >>>>> Internet use? >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>> >>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>> noted, or >>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>> experience. >>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > You've got a number of issues, none fatal but they're going to plague you
forever. First, you should install your SBS with a non-routable domain name, not your FQDN. To fix that, you'll have to start from scratch re-installing the SBS, and I'd recommend you take that route as you'll have the opportunity to fix everything at once. Defeat the urge to configure your network manually. Believe it or not, the SBS wizards are better at configuration than you, I, or anyone else for that matter. You should enable DHCP on your SBS, configure it correctly, and switch the workstations to DHCP clients. If you're not going to do that, then at least get rid of the external DNS entries on all nics (both server and workstations). DNS must point to only the IP of the SBS nic. You say DHCP is enabled, and that may be the case, but your workstation ipconfig says it's not using DHCP so the DHCP server does you no good. You don't have WINS enabled either, and it should be, and would be (as would DHCP) if you just follow the bouncing ball in SBS setup. Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured to connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own email domain is the BEST way). If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do it, and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their pop boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. b) Leave the DNS entries blank. c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries picked up from the ISP internet connection. Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi Les, > > Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. > > Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server > > clent ipconfig: > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet > Adapter > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 > 10.10.10.2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > server ipcofig: > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 > ion > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Les, please see answers to your questions below. > > >> >> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >> >> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? > > SBS 2000 >> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? > > Inputed manually >> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >> registered domain name? > > Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. > >> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. > > I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. > > Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on > the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single > NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on > this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the > weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious > change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use > your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their > POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for > internal email as well. > > thanks again. > >>> >>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >>> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>> DNS >>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>> >>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>> from a >>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>> >>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>> DNS >>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>> with >>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>>> are >>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>> >>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>> the >>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>> DNS >>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>> ---------------------- >>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>> I'll >>>> understand." - Confucius >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>> make >>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>>>> to >>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>> >>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>> even >>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and >>>>> I >>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>> results...SOON. >>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>a >>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>public >>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>>(all >>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>>when >>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>>> help >>>>>> in >>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>>>> these >>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>> computers? >>>>>> Any >>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>> different >>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>>> noted, or >>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>> experience. >>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > You've got a number of issues, none fatal but they're going to plague you
forever. First, you should install your SBS with a non-routable domain name, not your FQDN. To fix that, you'll have to start from scratch re-installing the SBS, and I'd recommend you take that route as you'll have the opportunity to fix everything at once. Defeat the urge to configure your network manually. Believe it or not, the SBS wizards are better at configuration than you, I, or anyone else for that matter. You should enable DHCP on your SBS, configure it correctly, and switch the workstations to DHCP clients. If you're not going to do that, then at least get rid of the external DNS entries on all nics (both server and workstations). DNS must point to only the IP of the SBS nic. You say DHCP is enabled, and that may be the case, but your workstation ipconfig says it's not using DHCP so the DHCP server does you no good. You don't have WINS enabled either, and it should be, and would be (as would DHCP) if you just follow the bouncing ball in SBS setup. Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured to connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own email domain is the BEST way). If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do it, and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their pop boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. b) Leave the DNS entries blank. c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries picked up from the ISP internet connection. Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi Les, > > Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. > > Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server > > clent ipconfig: > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet > Adapter > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 > 10.10.10.2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > server ipcofig: > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 > ion > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Les, please see answers to your questions below. > > >> >> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >> >> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? > > SBS 2000 >> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? > > Inputed manually >> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >> registered domain name? > > Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. > >> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. > > I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. > > Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on > the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single > NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on > this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the > weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious > change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use > your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their > POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for > internal email as well. > > thanks again. > >>> >>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >>> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>> DNS >>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>> >>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>> from a >>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>> >>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>> DNS >>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>> with >>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>>> are >>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>> >>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>> the >>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>> DNS >>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If they >>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>> ---------------------- >>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>> I'll >>>> understand." - Confucius >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>> make >>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then >>>>> to >>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>> >>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>> even >>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same and >>>>> I >>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services >>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>> results...SOON. >>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>a >>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>public >>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>>(all >>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>>when >>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>>> help >>>>>> in >>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >>>>>> these >>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>> computers? >>>>>> Any >>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>> different >>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>>> noted, or >>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>> experience. >>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Hey Les,
You are right on all accounts. I had it backwords as to what I heard about naming your SBS domain the same as your registered domain. As far as the exchange goes, can you point me towards any guides you may know of to correctly configure the exchange to handle external email for the time being? The reason I ask is because you've convinced me to go ahead and reinstall SBS, but I may not have a window for at least a few weeks' so I'd like to at least get my exhange handling external email and get RID of public dns on my clients until I can reinstall and do things correctly. Lastly, (and i know you are more 2003 server oriented) I don't recall any wizards when doing SBS install, can you direct me on how or what directory on the install CD as to which I can execute them on? Les, I kindly thank you again for your help. I hope to return the favor to others and become an MVP someday (I have alot to learn!). Show quoteHide quote > > Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes > is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to > the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP > mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured to > connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own > email domain is the BEST way). > > If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do it, > and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their pop > boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. > > Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the > Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: > > a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. > b) Leave the DNS entries blank. > c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be > configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries > picked up from the ISP internet connection. > > Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run > the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. > The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. > > > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi Les, >> >> Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. >> >> Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server >> >> clent ipconfig: >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet >> Adapter >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 >> 10.10.10.2 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> server ipcofig: >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 >> ion >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Les, please see answers to your questions below. >> >> >>> >>> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >>> >>> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? >> >> SBS 2000 >>> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >>> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? >> >> Inputed manually >>> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >>> registered domain name? >> >> Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. >> >>> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >>> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. >> >> I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. >> >> Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on >> the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single >> NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on >> this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the >> weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious >> change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use >> your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their >> POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for >> internal email as well. >> >> thanks again. >> >>>> >>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >>>> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>>> DNS >>>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>>> >>>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>>> from a >>>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>>> >>>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>>> DNS >>>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>>> with >>>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>>>> are >>>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>>> >>>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>>> the >>>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>>> DNS >>>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If >>>>> they >>>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>>> I'll >>>>> understand." - Confucius >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>>> make >>>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, >>>>>> then to >>>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>>> >>>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing >>>>>> this >>>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>>> even >>>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same >>>>>> and I >>>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and >>>>>> services >>>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>>> results...SOON. >>>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say >>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>>public >>>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>>>(all >>>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with >>>>>>>>all the >>>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>>>when >>>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>>> computers? >>>>>>> Any >>>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>>>> noted, or >>>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Hey Les,
You are right on all accounts. I had it backwords as to what I heard about naming your SBS domain the same as your registered domain. As far as the exchange goes, can you point me towards any guides you may know of to correctly configure the exchange to handle external email for the time being? The reason I ask is because you've convinced me to go ahead and reinstall SBS, but I may not have a window for at least a few weeks' so I'd like to at least get my exhange handling external email and get RID of public dns on my clients until I can reinstall and do things correctly. Lastly, (and i know you are more 2003 server oriented) I don't recall any wizards when doing SBS install, can you direct me on how or what directory on the install CD as to which I can execute them on? Les, I kindly thank you again for your help. I hope to return the favor to others and become an MVP someday (I have alot to learn!). Show quoteHide quote > > Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes > is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to > the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP > mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured to > connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own > email domain is the BEST way). > > If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do it, > and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their pop > boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. > > Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the > Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: > > a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. > b) Leave the DNS entries blank. > c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be > configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries > picked up from the ISP internet connection. > > Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run > the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. > The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. > > > > -- > Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SBS Rocks ! > ---------------------- > "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll > understand." - Confucius > > > "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi Les, >> >> Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. >> >> Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server >> >> clent ipconfig: >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet >> Adapter >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 >> 10.10.10.2 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> server ipcofig: >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 >> ion >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Les, please see answers to your questions below. >> >> >>> >>> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >>> >>> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? >> >> SBS 2000 >>> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >>> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? >> >> Inputed manually >>> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >>> registered domain name? >> >> Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. >> >>> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >>> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. >> >> I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. >> >> Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on >> the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single >> NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on >> this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the >> weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious >> change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still use >> your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use their >> POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange for >> internal email as well. >> >> thanks again. >> >>>> >>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> >>>> wrote in message news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>>> DNS >>>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>>> >>>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>>> from a >>>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>>> >>>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>>> DNS >>>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>>> with >>>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. These >>>>> are >>>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>>> >>>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>>> the >>>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>>> DNS >>>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If >>>>> they >>>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>>> I'll >>>>> understand." - Confucius >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>>> make >>>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, >>>>>> then to >>>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>>> >>>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing >>>>>> this >>>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>>> even >>>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same >>>>>> and I >>>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on >>>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and >>>>>> services >>>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>>> results...SOON. >>>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say >>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>>public >>>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go >>>>>>>>(all >>>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with >>>>>>>>all the >>>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever >>>>>>>>when >>>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>>> computers? >>>>>>> Any >>>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >>>>>>> noted, or >>>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > The Connect to the Inernet wizard is what you need to fix things up.
The confiuration for POP3 connector is part of that wizard (as I recall), and you'll need to know the username and password for each pop account. With the information you provide in the wizard, the POP accounts will be mapped to user accounts (mailboxes) in Exchange, and your SBS server will collect the email from the POP accounts and place it in the appropriate users inbox. The user therefore only needs to use Outlook to connect to Exchange, nothing else. Just be warned that POP mail is fraught with problems, it's a consumer grade mail pickup service and the POP3 connector, while it works, is intended as a transition tool. If you're going to re-install, seriously consider upgrading to SBS 2k3. It contains far more functionality than SBS 2k. Not to mention the pop3 connector probably works with fewer issues. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OZpRLvN3GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hey Les, > > You are right on all accounts. I had it backwords as to what I heard about > naming your SBS domain the same as your registered domain. As far as the > exchange goes, can you point me towards any guides you may know of to > correctly configure the exchange to handle external email for the time > being? The reason I ask is because you've convinced me to go ahead and > reinstall SBS, but I may not have a window for at least a few weeks' so > I'd like to at least get my exhange handling external email and get RID of > public dns on my clients until I can reinstall and do things correctly. > Lastly, (and i know you are more 2003 server oriented) I don't recall any > wizards when doing SBS install, can you direct me on how or what directory > on the install CD as to which I can execute them on? > > Les, I kindly thank you again for your help. I hope to return the favor to > others and become an MVP someday (I have alot to learn!). > >> >> Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes >> is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to >> the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP >> mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured >> to connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own >> email domain is the BEST way). >> >> If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do >> it, and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their >> pop boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. >> >> Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the >> Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: >> >> a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. >> b) Leave the DNS entries blank. >> c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be >> configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries >> picked up from the ISP internet connection. >> >> Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run >> the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. >> The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. >> >> >> >> -- >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> SBS Rocks ! >> ---------------------- >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >> understand." - Confucius >> >> >> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Les, >>> >>> Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. >>> >>> Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server >>> >>> clent ipconfig: >>> >>> Windows IP Configuration >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet >>> Adapter >>> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F >>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 >>> 10.10.10.2 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> server ipcofig: >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 >>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 >>> ion >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Les, please see answers to your questions below. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >>>> >>>> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? >>> >>> SBS 2000 >>>> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >>>> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? >>> >>> Inputed manually >>>> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >>>> registered domain name? >>> >>> Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. >>> >>>> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >>>> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. >>> >>> I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. >>> >>> Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on >>> the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single >>> NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on >>> this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the >>> weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious >>> change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still >>> use your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use >>> their POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange >>> for internal email as well. >>> >>> thanks again. >>> >>>>> >>>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" >>>>> <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>>>> from a >>>>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>>>> >>>>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>>>> with >>>>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. >>>>>> These are >>>>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>>>> >>>>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>>>> the >>>>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If >>>>>> they >>>>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>>>> ---------------------- >>>>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>>>> I'll >>>>>> understand." - Confucius >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, >>>>>>> then to >>>>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same >>>>>>> and I >>>>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and >>>>>>> services >>>>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>>>> results...SOON. >>>>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say >>>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>>>public >>>>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings >>>>>>>>>go (all >>>>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would >>>>>>>>>no >>>>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with >>>>>>>>>all the >>>>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so >>>>>>>>>ever when >>>>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked >>>>>>>> for help >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>>>> computers? >>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> noted, or >>>>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > The Connect to the Inernet wizard is what you need to fix things up.
The confiuration for POP3 connector is part of that wizard (as I recall), and you'll need to know the username and password for each pop account. With the information you provide in the wizard, the POP accounts will be mapped to user accounts (mailboxes) in Exchange, and your SBS server will collect the email from the POP accounts and place it in the appropriate users inbox. The user therefore only needs to use Outlook to connect to Exchange, nothing else. Just be warned that POP mail is fraught with problems, it's a consumer grade mail pickup service and the POP3 connector, while it works, is intended as a transition tool. If you're going to re-install, seriously consider upgrading to SBS 2k3. It contains far more functionality than SBS 2k. Not to mention the pop3 connector probably works with fewer issues. -- Show quoteHide quoteLes Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! ---------------------- "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OZpRLvN3GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hey Les, > > You are right on all accounts. I had it backwords as to what I heard about > naming your SBS domain the same as your registered domain. As far as the > exchange goes, can you point me towards any guides you may know of to > correctly configure the exchange to handle external email for the time > being? The reason I ask is because you've convinced me to go ahead and > reinstall SBS, but I may not have a window for at least a few weeks' so > I'd like to at least get my exhange handling external email and get RID of > public dns on my clients until I can reinstall and do things correctly. > Lastly, (and i know you are more 2003 server oriented) I don't recall any > wizards when doing SBS install, can you direct me on how or what directory > on the install CD as to which I can execute them on? > > Les, I kindly thank you again for your help. I hope to return the favor to > others and become an MVP someday (I have alot to learn!). > >> >> Using Exchange for internal email, and still accessing external POP boxes >> is, well, just wrong. The better way to do this is to run the Connect to >> the Internet Wizard, and setting up the POP3 connector to pull the POP >> mail from the ISP into exchange. Then, you only need Outlook configured >> to connect to your Exchange. (I say the 'better' way, as hosing your own >> email domain is the BEST way). >> >> If you have to use POP boxes directly, then it's a mess. I wouldn't do >> it, and if someone insisted I'd have them use outlook express for their >> pop boxes, and using Outlook only for connecting to Exchange. >> >> Get rid of the DNS forwarders you put in manually. Run the Connect to the >> Internet wizard, and do one of these 3 things: >> >> a) Input your ISPs DNS IP addresses when asked for them. >> b) Leave the DNS entries blank. >> c) Input the IP address of your router (in such case, your router must be >> configured to forward DNS requests - and it probably has ISP DNS entries >> picked up from the ISP internet connection. >> >> Finally, many of us here can't remember much about SBS 2000, and you run >> the risk of receiving some misinformation in this, the SBS 2k3 newsgroup. >> The SBS 2k newsgroup is at microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz.2000. >> >> >> >> -- >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> SBS Rocks ! >> ---------------------- >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll >> understand." - Confucius >> >> >> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OVX0LBG3GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Les, >>> >>> Again, can't thank you enough for schooling me on my SBS setup. >>> >>> Below see my complete ipconfig /all for both client and server >>> >>> clent ipconfig: >>> >>> Windows IP Configuration >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : POM-MAN2 >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet >>> Adapter >>> >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-6D-33-2F >>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.14 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.13.31.12 >>> 10.10.10.2 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> server ipcofig: >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : phase1 >>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PHASE1MW.COM >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1 >>> ion >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-7B-CD >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.1 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Les, please see answers to your questions below. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I think we need to know a bit more about this setup. >>>> >>>> Is this SBS 2000, or 2003? >>> >>> SBS 2000 >>>> How did the DNS forwarder settings get there? Did you put them in >>>> manually, or did you put them in with the wizard? >>> >>> Inputed manually >>>> What is the internal domain name? Is it Phase1MW.com, and is that a >>>> registered domain name? >>> >>> Yes, and Yes, is also used for my clients POP accounts. >>> >>>> Why are there no host names in your ipconfigs? Please don't try to hide >>>> anything, otherwise we can't be of much help. >>> >>> I've posted them above. BTW, DHCP is enabled. >>> >>> Les, my gateway router is a watchguard firewall, it has my ISP's dns on >>> the WAN settings. I am obviously missing alot since I'm new to a single >>> NIC config on SBS 2000. I can't thank you enough for staying with me on >>> this. My apologies for the delay in response, as I have been under the >>> weather. Please let me know what I need to do next besides the obvious >>> change of DNS settings for both the server and clients. I could still >>> use your help on properly setting up the exchange so my clients can use >>> their POP accounts without needing public DNS. Yes, we use the exchange >>> for internal email as well. >>> >>> thanks again. >>> >>>>> >>>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" >>>>> <les.con***@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:uTuNuqF2GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> Your DNS is most likely misconfigured. As a test, remove the external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> entry, restart, and see if the mapped drive issue goes away. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the problem persists, then post the result of 'ipconfig /all' run >>>>>> from a >>>>>> dos prompt on both the server, and a workstation. >>>>>> >>>>>> If workstations have no external DNS resolution without the external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> entry, then your network is misconfigured - likely a single nic SBS >>>>>> with >>>>>> either fixed IPs, or a device other than the SBS as DHCP server. >>>>>> These are >>>>>> common configuration errors, all fixable. >>>>>> >>>>>> How it needs to work: Workstations look to the SBS for DNS, and only >>>>>> the >>>>>> SBS. If the SBS determines the request needs to go external, then it >>>>>> forwards the request. There's only one acceptable place for external >>>>>> DNS >>>>>> server entries, and that's in the DNS configuration on the SBS. If >>>>>> they >>>>>> exist anywhere else, you will have issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> SBS Rocks ! >>>>>> ---------------------- >>>>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and >>>>>> I'll >>>>>> understand." - Confucius >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OgcpqgF2GHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, >>>>>>> then to >>>>>>> check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> with the same applications. So the software being used is the same >>>>>>> and I >>>>>>> installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> either one. So I know both are running the same protocols and >>>>>>> services >>>>>>> alike. I'm at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting >>>>>>> results...SOON. >>>>>>> Any help or suggestions would be really great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again Chuck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>>>>>>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>>>>>>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or >>>>>>>>>opening >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say >>>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>>>takes >>>>>>>>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a >>>>>>>>>public >>>>>>>>>DNS >>>>>>>>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings >>>>>>>>>go (all >>>>>>>>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both >>>>>>>>>clients >>>>>>>>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would >>>>>>>>>no >>>>>>>>>longer >>>>>>>>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with >>>>>>>>>all the >>>>>>>>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so >>>>>>>>>ever when >>>>>>>>>accessing a mapped drive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked >>>>>>>> for help >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> computers on other computers? Any different software on these >>>>>>>> computers? >>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> Internet use? >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> noted, or >>>>>>>> did it start after some notable change? >>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from >>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>>> My email is AT DOT >>>>>>>> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:47:34 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>> >>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>>a >>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>> >>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>takes >>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>> >>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>> >>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>longer >>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>> >>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>>accessing a mapped drive. >>> >>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >> >> Mike, >> >> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help >> in >> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >> >> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >> these >> computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? >> Any >> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different >> Internet use? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >> noted, or >> did it start after some notable change? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >Chuck, > >I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) > >To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even with >the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on either >one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services alike. I'm >at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. Any help or >suggestions would be really great. So what's different about these two users, from the others? And how are they similar, to each other? It's never good to have multiple people with a problem, except that it will make it just a bit easier to isolate the problem. How many mapped drives do the problem users have? Any drives that they have, that nobody else has? Are all mapped drives on the same server? Do the problem users experience this wait (and how long is "a while"?) each time they access any mapped drive? Certain mapped drives (but not all), or intermittently? If intermittently, any pattern of what other drives are currently mapped, when the problem is seen? What's the Internet access policies there? Any websites that the problem users might be accessing? What POP3 email are the users accessing? Do all users access the same email server? The fact that you need external DNS makes it look like maybe your domain DNS isn't setup quite right. Properly setup, your domain DNS is all that your clients should need. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-xp-on-nt-domain.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-xp-on-nt-domain.html What name resolution are you running? NetBT setting? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html Consider some or all of the above questions, then run Process Explorer, FileMon, and RegMon (or any trace programs of your choosing). See what's going on while they wait. No install process required for any of the 3, so you can throw them onto anybody's computer in 15 seconds, remotely even (if you have remote administrative access). <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:47:34 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike,>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:rcbjg252lre5qq75q9msmkcbms3vits89j@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:29 -0700, "Mike" <mikeg***@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>Thank you for reading my post. >>>Running SBS 2000 Domain Single NIC configuration. >>> >>>This problem has arrised on two XP pro machines where the users are >>>complaining very slow response when browsing to a mapped drive or opening >>>a >>>file on a mapped drive from applications like Word or Excel. >>> >>>In other words, when the users click on the mapped drive, they say it >>>takes >>>a while for files and folders to appear. >>> >>>Just so you know, both clients experiencing this problem have a public DNS >>>as primary, and the server IP as secondary as far as NIC settings go (all >>>clients are set for static). Also, all power settings for both clients >>>including the server's nic are all unchecked. >>> >>>I would rather only have the server's IP as the ONLY DNS entry on the >>>clients, but with out that Public DNS for some reason, they would no >>>longer >>>be able to access their POP3 email accounts. >>> >>>My own client machine's IP setting are setup the same, along with all the >>>other clients; and me nor the other users have no delay what so ever when >>>accessing a mapped drive. >>> >>>Any help would be really appreciative. Thank you. >> >> Mike, >> >> On the chance that you could have an SBS problem, have you asked for help >> in >> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs? >> >> Have you tried other users on these computers, and tried the users of >> these >> computers on other computers? Any different software on these computers? >> Any >> different network protocols or services on these computers? Any different >> Internet use? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> Is the observed problem consistent and constant? Has it always been >> noted, or >> did it start after some notable change? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html >Chuck, > >I have in fact posted this in the SBS group. Another MVP told me to make >sure some settings were correct on the server side. If no change, then to >check out the xp pro group. (all settings were good) > >To answer your question, I gave one of the two users experiencing this >problem another computer, and the same proplems occured like usual even with >the same applications. So the software being used is the same and I >installed the OS on both computers and did not modify the services on either >one. So I know both are running the same protocols and services alike. I'm >at a loss on this one and my boss is expecting results...SOON. Any help or >suggestions would be really great. So what's different about these two users, from the others? And how are they similar, to each other? It's never good to have multiple people with a problem, except that it will make it just a bit easier to isolate the problem. How many mapped drives do the problem users have? Any drives that they have, that nobody else has? Are all mapped drives on the same server? Do the problem users experience this wait (and how long is "a while"?) each time they access any mapped drive? Certain mapped drives (but not all), or intermittently? If intermittently, any pattern of what other drives are currently mapped, when the problem is seen? What's the Internet access policies there? Any websites that the problem users might be accessing? What POP3 email are the users accessing? Do all users access the same email server? The fact that you need external DNS makes it look like maybe your domain DNS isn't setup quite right. Properly setup, your domain DNS is all that your clients should need. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-xp-on-nt-domain.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-xp-on-nt-domain.html What name resolution are you running? NetBT setting? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html Consider some or all of the above questions, then run Process Explorer, FileMon, and RegMon (or any trace programs of your choosing). See what's going on while they wait. No install process required for any of the 3, so you can throw them onto anybody's computer in 15 seconds, remotely even (if you have remote administrative access). <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. 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