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Unable to open *View Workgroup Computers* nor access workgroupHello,
I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the network can see but not access the PC. While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is not accessible. Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? Thank you. jinnii wrote:
> Hello, 1) Have you recently installed some new software?> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the > network can see but not access the PC. > > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is > not accessible. > > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? > > Thank you. 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? Then I can help you better. Dave. Hello, thanks for replying.
We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. >From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click ViewWorkgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not available." I can ping >From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but whenI click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I can ping itself but not the PC. We still have IE6. Pajeroid wrote: Show quoteHide quote > jinnii wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The > > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the > > network can see but not access the PC. > > > > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes > > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is > > not accessible. > > > > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? > > > > Thank you. > > 1) Have you recently installed some new software? > > 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? > > 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs > i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? > > Then I can help you better. Dave. Right, thanks for the information.
First thing I would try is to open IE and type in the IP address of the new router in the address bar (on your pc). Make sure the laptop is given a static IP address and not DHCP. Give the laptop this static IP address and make the gateway address that of the router. You will also need to give a DNS address, make this the same as the gateway. Make sure you give the laptop an IP address out of the range of the DHCP range. This will make sure it is not an issue with IP addresses which is far more common than anything else with setting up networks as I have recently discovered! Make sure you restart the router after setting the IP address of the laptop. After trying that, give me a shout to tell me how it goes. Dave. Thank you Pajeroid (Dave) for your replies and offer of help.
It appears it was a firewall issue and not an address issue, and after comparing the Windows firewall settings on all computers involved and setting them all the same way (and disabling the one packaged with my antivirus program) it resolved the problem. Cheers... jinnii Pajeroid wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Right, thanks for the information. > > First thing I would try is to open IE and type in the IP address of the > new router in the address bar (on your pc). > > Make sure the laptop is given a static IP address and not DHCP. > > Give the laptop this static IP address and make the gateway address > that of the router. > > You will also need to give a DNS address, make this the same as the > gateway. > > Make sure you give the laptop an IP address out of the range of the > DHCP range. > > This will make sure it is not an issue with IP addresses which is far > more common than anything else with setting up networks as I have > recently discovered! > > Make sure you restart the router after setting the IP address of the > laptop. After trying that, give me a shout to tell me how it goes. > > Dave.
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On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: Jinnii,>Pajeroid wrote: >> jinnii wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the >> > network can see but not access the PC. >> > >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is >> > not accessible. >> > >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? >> > >> > Thank you. >> >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? >> >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? >> >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? >> >> Then I can help you better. Dave. >Hello, thanks for replying. > >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. > >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. > >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not >available." I can ping > >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. > >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I >can ping itself but not the PC. > >We still have IE6. The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Hello Chuck,
Thank you! I reviewed your links, and after confirming via ipconfig /all that both Dhcp and Autoconfiguration were enabled on both PC-A and Laptop-B (I wasn't sure what else to to at that point), I checked the firewall issue. On PC-A I turned off (for now) the Norton Internet Security 2006 Personal Firewall, and confirmed that Windows Firewall was turned on. (Shall I edit the Norton firewall settings so that I can turn it back on?) On Laptop-B (Norton Antivirus 2006) that Windows Firewall was on. Voila... everything is networked beautifully! Thank you, Jinnii Chuck wrote: Show quoteHide quote > On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: > > >Pajeroid wrote: > >> jinnii wrote: > >> > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The > >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the > >> > network can see but not access the PC. > >> > > >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes > >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is > >> > not accessible. > >> > > >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? > >> > > >> > Thank you. > >> > >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? > >> > >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? > >> > >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs > >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? > >> > >> Then I can help you better. Dave. > > >Hello, thanks for replying. > > > >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the > >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. > > > >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link > >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. > > > >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared > >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View > >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our > >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but > >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not > >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the > >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not > >available." I can ping > > > >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and > >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when > >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. > > > >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I > >can ping itself but not the PC. > > > >We still have IE6. > > Jinnii, > > The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case > of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most > frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. > > Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > > Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. On 18 Sep 2006 08:05:37 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: Thank you for the feedback, Jinnii!The personal firewalls are there for your protection, and if you can run with a firewall on each computer, properly setup, it may help you in the long term. I run a personal firewall on each of my computers - it's part of a layered security strategy. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html Show quoteHide quote >Hello Chuck, > >Thank you! I reviewed your links, and after confirming via ipconfig >/all that both Dhcp and Autoconfiguration were enabled on both PC-A and >Laptop-B (I wasn't sure what else to to at that point), I checked the >firewall issue. > >On PC-A I turned off (for now) the Norton Internet Security 2006 >Personal Firewall, and confirmed that Windows Firewall was turned on. >(Shall I edit the Norton firewall settings so that I can turn it back >on?) > >On Laptop-B (Norton Antivirus 2006) that Windows Firewall was on. > >Voila... everything is networked beautifully! > >Thank you, > >Jinnii > > >Chuck wrote: >> On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: >> >> >Pajeroid wrote: >> >> jinnii wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> > >> >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The >> >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the >> >> > network can see but not access the PC. >> >> > >> >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes >> >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is >> >> > not accessible. >> >> > >> >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? >> >> > >> >> > Thank you. >> >> >> >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? >> >> >> >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? >> >> >> >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs >> >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? >> >> >> >> Then I can help you better. Dave. >> >> >Hello, thanks for replying. >> > >> >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the >> >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. >> > >> >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link >> >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. >> > >> >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared >> >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View >> >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our >> >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but >> >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not >> >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the >> >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not >> >available." I can ping >> > >> >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and >> >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when >> >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. >> > >> >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I >> >can ping itself but not the PC. >> > >> >We still have IE6. >> >> Jinnii, >> >> The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case >> of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most >> frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. >> >> Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >> >> Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck,
Do you mean a personal firewall that is *in addition* to the Windows Firewall that is running (ie: reconfiguring the Norton Antivirus Personal Firewall that I disabled earlier today)? It is part of my Norton package. I keep seeing the red X on my Norton and am afraid that someday one of the kids (or I) will turn it back on by accident. Jinnii Chuck wrote: Show quoteHide quote > On 18 Sep 2006 08:05:37 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: > > Thank you for the feedback, Jinnii! > > The personal firewalls are there for your protection, and if you can run with a > firewall on each computer, properly setup, it may help you in the long term. I > run a personal firewall on each of my computers - it's part of a layered > security strategy. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html > > >Hello Chuck, > > > >Thank you! I reviewed your links, and after confirming via ipconfig > >/all that both Dhcp and Autoconfiguration were enabled on both PC-A and > >Laptop-B (I wasn't sure what else to to at that point), I checked the > >firewall issue. > > > >On PC-A I turned off (for now) the Norton Internet Security 2006 > >Personal Firewall, and confirmed that Windows Firewall was turned on. > >(Shall I edit the Norton firewall settings so that I can turn it back > >on?) > > > >On Laptop-B (Norton Antivirus 2006) that Windows Firewall was on. > > > >Voila... everything is networked beautifully! > > > >Thank you, > > > >Jinnii > > > > > >Chuck wrote: > >> On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: > >> > >> >Pajeroid wrote: > >> >> jinnii wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Hello, > >> >> > > >> >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The > >> >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the > >> >> > network can see but not access the PC. > >> >> > > >> >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes > >> >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is > >> >> > not accessible. > >> >> > > >> >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you. > >> >> > >> >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? > >> >> > >> >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? > >> >> > >> >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs > >> >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? > >> >> > >> >> Then I can help you better. Dave. > >> > >> >Hello, thanks for replying. > >> > > >> >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the > >> >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. > >> > > >> >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link > >> >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. > >> > > >> >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared > >> >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View > >> >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our > >> >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but > >> >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not > >> >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the > >> >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not > >> >available." I can ping > >> > > >> >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and > >> >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when > >> >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. > >> > > >> >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I > >> >can ping itself but not the PC. > >> > > >> >We still have IE6. > >> > >> Jinnii, > >> > >> The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case > >> of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most > >> frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. > >> > >> Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html > >> > >> Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > >> My email is AT DOT > >> actual address pchuck mvps org. > > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. On 18 Sep 2006 11:11:04 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: Jinnii,You can use either NPF or WF, but not both - having 2 personal firewalls active will cause problems. NPF is supposed to disable WF automatically. Maybe that's the problem - it didn't. Show quoteHide quote >Chuck, > >Do you mean a personal firewall that is *in addition* to the Windows >Firewall that is running (ie: reconfiguring the Norton Antivirus >Personal Firewall that I disabled earlier today)? It is part of my >Norton package. I keep seeing the red X on my Norton and am afraid >that someday one of the kids (or I) will turn it back on by accident. > >Jinnii > > >Chuck wrote: >> On 18 Sep 2006 08:05:37 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: >> >> Thank you for the feedback, Jinnii! >> >> The personal firewalls are there for your protection, and if you can run with a >> firewall on each computer, properly setup, it may help you in the long term. I >> run a personal firewall on each of my computers - it's part of a layered >> security strategy. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html >> >> >Hello Chuck, >> > >> >Thank you! I reviewed your links, and after confirming via ipconfig >> >/all that both Dhcp and Autoconfiguration were enabled on both PC-A and >> >Laptop-B (I wasn't sure what else to to at that point), I checked the >> >firewall issue. >> > >> >On PC-A I turned off (for now) the Norton Internet Security 2006 >> >Personal Firewall, and confirmed that Windows Firewall was turned on. >> >(Shall I edit the Norton firewall settings so that I can turn it back >> >on?) >> > >> >On Laptop-B (Norton Antivirus 2006) that Windows Firewall was on. >> > >> >Voila... everything is networked beautifully! >> > >> >Thank you, >> > >> >Jinnii >> > >> > >> >Chuck wrote: >> >> On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Pajeroid wrote: >> >> >> jinnii wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The >> >> >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the >> >> >> > network can see but not access the PC. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes >> >> >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is >> >> >> > not accessible. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? >> >> >> >> >> >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? >> >> >> >> >> >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs >> >> >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? >> >> >> >> >> >> Then I can help you better. Dave. >> >> >> >> >Hello, thanks for replying. >> >> > >> >> >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the >> >> >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. >> >> > >> >> >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link >> >> >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. >> >> > >> >> >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared >> >> >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View >> >> >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our >> >> >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but >> >> >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not >> >> >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the >> >> >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not >> >> >available." I can ping >> >> > >> >> >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and >> >> >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when >> >> >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. >> >> > >> >> >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I >> >> >can ping itself but not the PC. >> >> > >> >> >We still have IE6. >> >> >> >> Jinnii, >> >> >> >> The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case >> >> of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most >> >> frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. >> >> >> >> Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >> >> >> >> Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> >> My email is AT DOT >> >> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thanks, Chuck. Perhaps I will wait a bit and experiment with Norton
PF later. I only have it available for the PC though. Won't it cause problems if I were to switch back to NPF (after disabling WF) on only the PC and the other laptops on the network were to continue with WF? jinnii PS: I am so happy to have our network working so well. It's better than before! Glad you are here to help us. On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:16:17 -0700, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >On 18 Sep 2006 11:11:04 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: > >Jinnii, > >You can use either NPF or WF, but not both - having 2 personal firewalls active >will cause problems. NPF is supposed to disable WF automatically. Maybe that's >the problem - it didn't. > >>Chuck, >> >>Do you mean a personal firewall that is *in addition* to the Windows >>Firewall that is running (ie: reconfiguring the Norton Antivirus >>Personal Firewall that I disabled earlier today)? It is part of my >>Norton package. I keep seeing the red X on my Norton and am afraid >>that someday one of the kids (or I) will turn it back on by accident. >> >>Jinnii >> >> >>Chuck wrote: >>> On 18 Sep 2006 08:05:37 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for the feedback, Jinnii! >>> >>> The personal firewalls are there for your protection, and if you can run with a >>> firewall on each computer, properly setup, it may help you in the long term. I >>> run a personal firewall on each of my computers - it's part of a layered >>> security strategy. >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html >>> >>> >Hello Chuck, >>> > >>> >Thank you! I reviewed your links, and after confirming via ipconfig >>> >/all that both Dhcp and Autoconfiguration were enabled on both PC-A and >>> >Laptop-B (I wasn't sure what else to to at that point), I checked the >>> >firewall issue. >>> > >>> >On PC-A I turned off (for now) the Norton Internet Security 2006 >>> >Personal Firewall, and confirmed that Windows Firewall was turned on. >>> >(Shall I edit the Norton firewall settings so that I can turn it back >>> >on?) >>> > >>> >On Laptop-B (Norton Antivirus 2006) that Windows Firewall was on. >>> > >>> >Voila... everything is networked beautifully! >>> > >>> >Thank you, >>> > >>> >Jinnii >>> > >>> > >>> >Chuck wrote: >>> >> On 16 Sep 2006 14:38:08 -0700, "jinnii" <jin***@att.net> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >Pajeroid wrote: >>> >> >> jinnii wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hello, >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > I have a PC and a laptop on our previously working home network. The >>> >> >> > PC in question is wired to the D-Link router, and a laptop on the >>> >> >> > network can see but not access the PC. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > While on the PC, when I click on View Workgroup Computers it takes >>> >> >> > about 30 seconds to respond, then I get an error message saying it is >>> >> >> > not accessible. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Can someone please help walk me through any steps to resolve this? >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Thank you. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 1) Have you recently installed some new software? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 2) How is the laptop connected to the network; wirelessly or wired? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 3) Have you recently changed or updated any settings/windows programs >>> >> >> i.e: upgraded to IE7 ??? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Then I can help you better. Dave. >>> >> >>> >> >Hello, thanks for replying. >>> >> > >>> >> >We recently upgraded from a Linksys DI-614+ broadband router to the >>> >> >newer Linksys WRT54G. We did not change our workgroup name. >>> >> > >>> >> >My laptop is wireless using D-link airplus 650+, and we have the D-Link >>> >> >utility v3.02 installed and do not use WZC. >>> >> > >>> >> >>From my laptop: When I click on My Network Places I can see shared >>> >> >folders on the laptop and on our daughters laptop. When I click View >>> >> >Workgroup Computers I can see my laptop, the PC, a 2nd laptop (our >>> >> >daughters), and the printer. I can access our daughters laptop but >>> >> >when I click on the PC I get the error message "[Workgroupname] is not >>> >> >accessible. You might not have permission... Contact the >>> >> >administrator... The list of servers for this workgroup is not >>> >> >available." I can ping >>> >> > >>> >> >>From the PC: When I click on My Network Places I can see the PC and >>> >> >shared folders on it, and (this is new) a link for the WRT54G, but when >>> >> >I click on View Workgroup Computers I get the same message as above. >>> >> > >>> >> >I can ping the laptop from the PC but not itself, and from the laptop I >>> >> >can ping itself but not the PC. >>> >> > >>> >> >We still have IE6. >>> >> >>> >> Jinnii, >>> >> >>> >> The error "The list of servers for this workgroup is not available..." is a case >>> >> of server message blocks not getting from computer to computer. This is most >>> >> frequently a firewall or NetBT problem. >>> >> >>> >> Make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all computers. Read this article. >>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> >>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html >>> >> >>> >> Look for a firewall problem. Read this article with an open mind. >>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> >>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> >> My email is AT DOT >>> >> actual address pchuck mvps org. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >>> My email is AT DOT >>> actual address pchuck mvps org. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:35:27 GMT, Jeanne <jin***@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Jinnii, Norton PF and WF provide about the same amount of protection from malicious incoming traffic, so you should be able to substitute one for the other without too much risk. The only real risk, from switching back and forth, is that you might learn a bit about personal firewalls. ;) Now properly installed, Norton PF is supposed to deactivate WF. WF is actually a stopgap provided by Microsoft, and should allow itself to be replaced by a properly installed third party PF, automatically. So go ahead and try. Use common sense - don't go surfing to www.hackerzrus.net, from another computer, while any computer on the LAN is unprotected from the others. But as long as your LAN is behind a NAT router, you're safe from malicious Internet traffic in general. And thanks for the encouragement. >Thanks, Chuck. Perhaps I will wait a bit and experiment with Norton >PF later. I only have it available for the PC though. Won't it cause >problems if I were to switch back to NPF (after disabling WF) on only >the PC and the other laptops on the network were to continue with WF? > >jinnii > >PS: I am so happy to have our network working so well. It's better >than before! Glad you are here to help us. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. 
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