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Author
17 Sep 2006 6:08 PM
robm
how do I set-up a direct connection between two computers both running
windows XP?

I have a crossover cable but i get confused in the wizard when the
connection method doesn't appear to be listed.


Thanks

Rob

Author
17 Sep 2006 7:54 PM
Malke
robm wrote:

> how do I set-up a direct connection between two computers both running
> windows XP?
>
> I have a crossover cable but i get confused in the wizard when the
> connection method doesn't appear to be listed.

http://www.ezlan.net/direct.html - Peer-to-peer (crossover)

Malke
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Author
18 Sep 2006 6:08 AM
robm
Thanks.

However both PC's have a built in network connection. How do I install the
driver as described in "fitting the NIC card"?

Rob

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"Malke" wrote:

> robm wrote:
>
> > how do I set-up a direct connection between two computers both running
> > windows XP?
> >
> > I have a crossover cable but i get confused in the wizard when the
> > connection method doesn't appear to be listed.
>
> http://www.ezlan.net/direct.html - Peer-to-peer (crossover)
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
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>
Author
18 Sep 2006 1:04 PM
Malke
robm wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> However both PC's have a built in network connection. How do I install
> the driver as described in "fitting the NIC card"?

What driver? Connect a crossover cable to each computer's NIC (ethernet
adapter). Then assign static private IPs to each machine. Set file
sharing accordingly.

If you want more help, please provide a better description of your
network and what you are trying to do. If you are trying to provide
Internet access to the second machine without using a router, see:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard

Malke
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Author
18 Sep 2006 3:11 PM
robm
Thanks,

I am trying to set-up the PC's so that my daughter can share files and, most
importantly, play games !!

There is no need for an Internet connection at this stage.

How do you assign static Ips?


Rob




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"Malke" wrote:

> robm wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > However both PC's have a built in network connection. How do I install
> > the driver as described in "fitting the NIC card"?
>
> What driver? Connect a crossover cable to each computer's NIC (ethernet
> adapter). Then assign static private IPs to each machine. Set file
> sharing accordingly.
>
> If you want more help, please provide a better description of your
> network and what you are trying to do. If you are trying to provide
> Internet access to the second machine without using a router, see:
>
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
> ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
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>
Author
18 Sep 2006 3:14 PM
robm
Malke,

I have tried your links and both fail.

I cannot find www.practicallynetworked.com


Rob

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"Malke" wrote:

> robm wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > However both PC's have a built in network connection. How do I install
> > the driver as described in "fitting the NIC card"?
>
> What driver? Connect a crossover cable to each computer's NIC (ethernet
> adapter). Then assign static private IPs to each machine. Set file
> sharing accordingly.
>
> If you want more help, please provide a better description of your
> network and what you are trying to do. If you are trying to provide
> Internet access to the second machine without using a router, see:
>
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
> ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
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>
Author
18 Sep 2006 3:33 PM
Malke
robm wrote:

> Malke,
>
> I have tried your links and both fail.
>
> I cannot find www.practicallynetworked.com

Works fine here.

If no Internet is involved, go to Network Connections (Control Panel)
and open it. Then right-click on the Local Area Network Connection (for
your ethernet adapter) and left-click Properties. In the "window" find
the TCP/IP entry. Double-click it to get its Properties. Change the
settings for IP address from automatic. Put in 192.168.1.1 on the first
computer and then 192.168.1.2 on the second.

If using XP SP2, go to the Firewall applet in Control Panel and put a
checkmark in File/Printer Sharing. If you have third-party firewall
software, configure it to allow the Local Area Network traffic as
trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an IP range. Ex.
would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your
correct subnet.

Make shares as desired.

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
matters in your situation.

XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My
Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
folder.

If you need more help, you can always use XP's Help & Support.

Malke
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Author
18 Sep 2006 8:28 PM
Helen
I am trying to set up a home network connection between 2 computers.  the LAN
connection on both computers say connected and the guest computer says it is
connected to the host, but the host say it does not have any incoming
clients.  I have entered IP addresses for both computers and checked the
network adapters are working.

any idea what I'm doing wrong?!

thanks,
Helen

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"Malke" wrote:

> robm wrote:
>
> > how do I set-up a direct connection between two computers both running
> > windows XP?
> >
> > I have a crossover cable but i get confused in the wizard when the
> > connection method doesn't appear to be listed.
>
> http://www.ezlan.net/direct.html - Peer-to-peer (crossover)
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
Author
18 Sep 2006 9:20 PM
Malke
Helen wrote:

> I am trying to set up a home network connection between 2 computers.
> the LAN connection on both computers say connected and the guest
> computer says it is connected to the host, but the host say it does
> not have any incoming
> clients.  I have entered IP addresses for both computers and checked
> the network adapters are working.

Make a new post instead of tacking yours onto someone else's problem.
This way both of you will get the help you need. This link will show
you what details to include in your next, new post:

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Malke
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Author
19 Sep 2006 6:09 AM
robm
Sorry Malke. She should have said she is my daughter reffered to earlier!

Following your instructions she is almost there. She has both PC's linked
but cannot transfer any data.

I shall get her to start a new post later today.


Rob

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"Malke" wrote:

> Helen wrote:
>
> > I am trying to set up a home network connection between 2 computers.
> > the LAN connection on both computers say connected and the guest
> > computer says it is connected to the host, but the host say it does
> > not have any incoming
> > clients.  I have entered IP addresses for both computers and checked
> > the network adapters are working.
>
> Make a new post instead of tacking yours onto someone else's problem.
> This way both of you will get the help you need. This link will show
> you what details to include in your next, new post:
>
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
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>
Author
19 Sep 2006 1:34 PM
Malke
robm wrote:

> Sorry Malke. She should have said she is my daughter reffered to
> earlier!
>
> Following your instructions she is almost there. She has both PC's
> linked but cannot transfer any data.
>
> I shall get her to start a new post later today.
>
>
No, no, no! She should keep her posts in the same thread because she has
more details about the issue. Yes, she should have said she is your
daughter and had more information about your setup.

Here is a link that will help you both with future posts:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Have your daughter read through my previous answer to you and have her
check for firewalls, particularly ones from third-parties like the
firewall component of Norton/McAfee AV.

Have her do this command on both machines and post the results:

Start>Run>cmd [enter]
ipconfig /all [enter]

She doesn't need to set up ICS (host/client) if there is no Internet.

Malke
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Author
19 Sep 2006 8:30 PM
Helen
The ipconfig info is as follows:

Computer 1

Host name: Helen
Primary DNS Suffix: (blank)
Node Type: Unknown
IP routing enabled: Yes
WINS Proxy enabled: Yes

Ethernet adapter - connection to Ianto
connection specific DNS Suffix: (blank)
Description: Realtek Ethernet NIC
Physical address: 00-0C-6E-2D-EF-61
DHCP enabled: No
IP address: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: (blank)

Computer 2

Host name: Ianto2
Primary DNS Suffix: (blank)
Node Type: Mixed
IP routing enabled: No
WINS Proxy enabled: No
connection specific DNS Suffix: (blank)
Description: Nuidia
Physical address: 00-0F-EA-5O-AA-OB
DHCP enabled: No
IP address: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: (blank)

Thanks for your help.
Helen

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"Malke" wrote:

> robm wrote:
>
> > Sorry Malke. She should have said she is my daughter reffered to
> > earlier!
> >
> > Following your instructions she is almost there. She has both PC's
> > linked but cannot transfer any data.
> >
> > I shall get her to start a new post later today.
> >
> >
> No, no, no! She should keep her posts in the same thread because she has
> more details about the issue. Yes, she should have said she is your
> daughter and had more information about your setup.
>
> Here is a link that will help you both with future posts:
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> Have your daughter read through my previous answer to you and have her
> check for firewalls, particularly ones from third-parties like the
> firewall component of Norton/McAfee AV.
>
> Have her do this command on both machines and post the results:
>
> Start>Run>cmd [enter]
> ipconfig /all [enter]
>
> She doesn't need to set up ICS (host/client) if there is no Internet.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
Author
19 Sep 2006 9:00 PM
Malke
Helen wrote:

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> The ipconfig info is as follows:
>
> Computer 1
>
> Host name: Helen
> Primary DNS Suffix: (blank)
> Node Type: Unknown
> IP routing enabled: Yes
> WINS Proxy enabled: Yes
>
> Ethernet adapter - connection to Ianto
> connection specific DNS Suffix: (blank)
> Description: Realtek Ethernet NIC
> Physical address: 00-0C-6E-2D-EF-61
> DHCP enabled: No
> IP address: 192.168.1.1
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default gateway: (blank)
>
> Computer 2
>
> Host name: Ianto2
> Primary DNS Suffix: (blank)
> Node Type: Mixed
> IP routing enabled: No
> WINS Proxy enabled: No
> connection specific DNS Suffix: (blank)
> Description: Nuidia
> Physical address: 00-0F-EA-5O-AA-OB
> DHCP enabled: No
> IP address: 192.168.1.2
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default gateway: (blank)

I found this article that takes you step-by-step through creating a
peer-to-peer network using crossover cable:

http://tinyurl.com/pzkxo

I suggest you print out the article and go through it carefully and you
should end up with a working network. Make sure you don't have any
firewalls in place.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
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Author
17 Sep 2006 7:55 PM
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
assign both computers in the same subnet. or post the result of ipconfig /all here.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
  "robm" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:43A21098-F206-45B1-AD0C-210C4DB62FE2@microsoft.com...
  how do I set-up a direct connection between two computers both running
  windows XP?

  I have a crossover cable but i get confused in the wizard when the
  connection method doesn't appear to be listed.


  Thanks

  Rob