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Getting IP to change with routerWhen I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20
seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a Westell by the way if you want to know. On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:00:40 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote:
>When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 Dan,>seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >Westell by the way if you want to know. Getting a different IP address, with the Verizon Internet client, would be a Verizon proprietary process. With a Westell or other router, running a standard DHCP client, the IP address is probably assigned as a function of the MAC address on the router. You COULD change the MAC address, and maybe get a different IP address. But DO NOT do this blindly. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:50:55 -0700, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:00:40 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote: Thanks for your advice. I just found out how to connect and disconnect> >>When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 >>seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >>Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >>have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >>again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >>does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >>know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >>Westell by the way if you want to know. > >Dan, > >Getting a different IP address, with the Verizon Internet client, would be a >Verizon proprietary process. With a Westell or other router, running a standard >DHCP client, the IP address is probably assigned as a function of the MAC >address on the router. You COULD change the MAC address, and maybe get a >different IP address. But DO NOT do this blindly. ><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html> >http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html with the Verizon icon even with the router though (meaning I can get a new IP address). I do it with a "traffic shaping" utility called Cfosspeed. It let's you use your browser, bittorrent program, Emule and other related programs without slowing each other down. A big problem I had before. It has a menu that says "Connect to Verizon Online" and "Log off Verizon Online". Now, I tried it awhile ago but it didn't work for changing the IP address, but since then I got a new version and reinstalled it, and I just retried it so something went right :) On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:18:21 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:50:55 -0700, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote: Well, that's fine. If you like doing that at will, then that's a selling point> >>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:00:40 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote: >> >>>When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 >>>seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >>>Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >>>have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >>>again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >>>does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >>>know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >>>Westell by the way if you want to know. >> >>Dan, >> >>Getting a different IP address, with the Verizon Internet client, would be a >>Verizon proprietary process. With a Westell or other router, running a standard >>DHCP client, the IP address is probably assigned as a function of the MAC >>address on the router. You COULD change the MAC address, and maybe get a >>different IP address. But DO NOT do this blindly. >><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html> >>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html > > >Thanks for your advice. I just found out how to connect and disconnect >with the Verizon icon even with the router though (meaning I can get a >new IP address). I do it with a "traffic shaping" utility called >Cfosspeed. It let's you use your browser, bittorrent program, Emule >and other related programs without slowing each other down. A big >problem I had before. It has a menu that says "Connect to Verizon >Online" and "Log off Verizon Online". Now, I tried it awhile ago but >it didn't work for changing the IP address, but since then I got a new >version and reinstalled it, and I just retried it so something went >right :) for using the Vz proprietary connection software, which I wouldn't do. I'd be using a NAT router. And if you're changing the IP address to get away from some netblock or other mistake that you made, remember that most any IP address that you'll get has been used by somebody. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:23:29 -0700, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote:
>Well, that's fine. If you like doing that at will, then that's a selling point Well whatever works right ;) I'll look into the Nat router.>for using the Vz proprietary connection software, which I wouldn't do. I'd be >using a NAT router. > >And if you're changing the IP address to get away from some netblock or other >mistake that you made, remember that most any IP address that you'll get has >been used by somebody. In news:6o01h2tu3iomi0ac5bl9alpacmma384m2e@4ax.com, Dan <d**@theman.net> typed:> When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 Might I ask why you want to do this?> seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the > Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I > have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on > again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer > does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody > know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a > Westell by the way if you want to know. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:13:05 -0400, "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote: >In news:6o01h2tu3iomi0ac5bl9alpacmma384m2e@4ax.com, Curious huh? Think I'm doing something illegal? Well you're>Dan <d**@theman.net> typed: >> When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 >> seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >> Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >> have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >> again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >> does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >> know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >> Westell by the way if you want to know. > >Might I ask why you want to do this? right! :) Ever hear of rapidshare? In case you don't know it's a service that let's you download anything. People are using it all over the place to share big files. If you have something to share, you upload it to them and get your own link. Then you give everyone else this link and they can download from it. Problem is if you want to download from them freely there's a 50mb limit or something and then you have to wait an hour to start downloading again. This is unless you pay for a subscription and you can download to your heart's content. So me being so damn cheap, I wanted to know if there was anyway around it and found out simply that getting your IP changed will allow you to bypass the hour limit and you can keep on downloading :) Now, I haven't downloaded rapidshare stuff in awhile (there's this site I go to that uses them alot). I'm gonna go today and hopefully rapidshare hasn't beaten this tactic. Pretty hard to do I think, unless they want to ban for an hour everyone at the main domain of Verizon from my part of New York (they'd have to do this for all systems across the country, or even the world who do what I'm doing, they're a German international site, so they're used all over the world I think). Don't worry though, alot of people don't know this and just pay up, rapidshare makes a lot of money. If you're interested in their site it's rapidshare.de There's others who do the same thing but rapidshare have become the most popular. On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:10:12 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:13:05 -0400, "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" Interesting.><lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote: > >>In news:6o01h2tu3iomi0ac5bl9alpacmma384m2e@4ax.com, >>Dan <d**@theman.net> typed: >>> When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 >>> seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >>> Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >>> have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >>> again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >>> does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >>> know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >>> Westell by the way if you want to know. >> >>Might I ask why you want to do this? > > Curious huh? Think I'm doing something illegal? Well you're >right! :) Ever hear of rapidshare? In case you don't know it's a >service that let's you download anything. People are using it all over >the place to share big files. If you have something to share, you >upload it to them and get your own link. Then you give everyone else >this link and they can download from it. Problem is if you want to >download from them freely there's a 50mb limit or something and then >you have to wait an hour to start downloading again. This is unless >you pay for a subscription and you can download to your heart's >content. > So me being so damn cheap, I wanted to know if there was anyway >around it and found out simply that getting your IP changed will allow >you to bypass the hour limit and you can keep on downloading :) Now, I >haven't downloaded rapidshare stuff in awhile (there's this site I go >to that uses them alot). I'm gonna go today and hopefully rapidshare >hasn't beaten this tactic. Pretty hard to do I think, unless they want >to ban for an hour everyone at the main domain of Verizon from my part >of New York (they'd have to do this for all systems across the >country, or even the world who do what I'm doing, they're a German >international site, so they're used all over the world I think). Don't >worry though, alot of people don't know this and just pay up, >rapidshare makes a lot of money. If you're interested in their site >it's rapidshare.de There's others who do the same thing but >rapidshare have become the most popular. I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I found that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like a NAT router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is NAT router compatible. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:28:30 -0700, Chuck <n***@example.net> wrote:
>Interesting. Well I don't need to do that, it would be very inconvenient to have to> >I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I found >that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like a NAT >router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is NAT >router compatible. use all the computers in my house. I can easily do it by just connecting and disconnecting on my computer. You know Rapidshare now let's you upload up to 300mb's! Very cool. And I think you only have to wait 10 minutes if you've reached your limit (which I think is still 50mb's). They must be doing very good business. Good thing competition's also around with the other services.
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"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message Well, If all addresses on LAN side of router are from real Internet news:smm3h2lnn0ipqiuoev5ksfp5he98daih00@4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:10:12 GMT, Dan <d**@theman.net> wrote: > >>On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:13:05 -0400, "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" >><lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>In news:6o01h2tu3iomi0ac5bl9alpacmma384m2e@4ax.com, >>>Dan <d**@theman.net> typed: >>>> When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20 >>>> seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the >>>> Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I >>>> have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on >>>> again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer >>>> does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody >>>> know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a >>>> Westell by the way if you want to know. >>> >>>Might I ask why you want to do this? >> >> Curious huh? Think I'm doing something illegal? Well you're >>right! :) Ever hear of rapidshare? In case you don't know it's a >>service that let's you download anything. People are using it all over >>the place to share big files. If you have something to share, you >>upload it to them and get your own link. Then you give everyone else >>this link and they can download from it. Problem is if you want to >>download from them freely there's a 50mb limit or something and then >>you have to wait an hour to start downloading again. This is unless >>you pay for a subscription and you can download to your heart's >>content. >> So me being so damn cheap, I wanted to know if there was anyway >>around it and found out simply that getting your IP changed will allow >>you to bypass the hour limit and you can keep on downloading :) Now, I >>haven't downloaded rapidshare stuff in awhile (there's this site I go >>to that uses them alot). I'm gonna go today and hopefully rapidshare >>hasn't beaten this tactic. Pretty hard to do I think, unless they want >>to ban for an hour everyone at the main domain of Verizon from my part >>of New York (they'd have to do this for all systems across the >>country, or even the world who do what I'm doing, they're a German >>international site, so they're used all over the world I think). Don't >>worry though, alot of people don't know this and just pay up, >>rapidshare makes a lot of money. If you're interested in their site >>it's rapidshare.de There's others who do the same thing but >>rapidshare have become the most popular. > > Interesting. > > I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I > found > that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like > a NAT > router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is > NAT > router compatible. address-space that's most likely possible, but in my case (LAN---NAT/FIREWALL/ROUTER---DSL_MODEM): even when I change a PC address to whatever I want, on the Internet side of my DSL modem, everyone will see the modem's IP address, no matter which PC on the LAN is using the Internet link. By the way, my ISP have a very strange policy... After each power failure (happens one to several times per a day, usually for less than a second and then power is restored, because my power suply provider do not do their job), modem's IP address will most likely change, but if I disconnect it from power manually, it will be given the same IP. I chose to use the free DynDNS services instead of paying 168% of the original Internet fee to the ISP - just to get a static IP. |
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