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NAT + Port Forward on Windows XPHello,
I have configured NAT on Windows XP box by enabling IPEnableRouter in registry. Everything worked like a sharm. Now I want to forward some ports to one host on internal network. I know that I need ICS for that. So I enabled ICS and forwarded some ports and it worked too. The problem is, that just after I enabled ICS, NAT doesn't work anymore. My question is how can I make NAT AND ICS work together? In article <3A85409F-AD08-4B44-82D2-84C4D2AC9***@microsoft.com>,
Vilius <Vil***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Hello, I'd like to help, but I don't have enough information. Please answer> >I have configured NAT on Windows XP box by enabling IPEnableRouter in >registry. Everything worked like a sharm. Now I want to forward some ports to >one host on internal network. I know that I need ICS for that. So I enabled >ICS and forwarded some ports and it worked too. The problem is, that just >after I enabled ICS, NAT doesn't work anymore. My question is how can I make >NAT AND ICS work together? these questions, and include any other information you can think of that would help people understand the situation: 1. What indicates to you that ICS breaks NAT? What are you doing that works when ICS isn't enabled? What's different when you enable ICS? If there are error messages, what do they say? 2. How many network adapters does the Windows XP box have? What is each one connected to? What is the IP address and subnet mask of each one? 3. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the Internet connection? 4. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the home network connection? ICS automatically changes that connection's IP address to 192.168.0.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I think that you and I use different terminology, and I don't want it to prevent me from understanding your question. As I see it: 1. The IPEnableRouter registry key enables IP forwarding in Windows XP. IP forwarding causes packets that arrive at one network interface to be repeated on other network interfaces, allowing an XP computer to route traffic between multiple subnets. Is that what you mean by "NAT". 2. NAT (Network Address Translation) is something different. NAT lets a computer (or broadband router) share a single Internet connection and a single public IP address between multiple computers. For details, see these sites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/nattrnsv.mspx XP's ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) is a NAT program. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: OK, my network topology is as follows. I have gateway hardware box with IP > In article <3A85409F-AD08-4B44-82D2-84C4D2AC9***@microsoft.com>, > Vilius <Vil***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I have configured NAT on Windows XP box by enabling IPEnableRouter in > >registry. Everything worked like a sharm. Now I want to forward some ports to > >one host on internal network. I know that I need ICS for that. So I enabled > >ICS and forwarded some ports and it worked too. The problem is, that just > >after I enabled ICS, NAT doesn't work anymore. My question is how can I make > >NAT AND ICS work together? > > I'd like to help, but I don't have enough information. Please answer > these questions, and include any other information you can think of > that would help people understand the situation: > > 1. What indicates to you that ICS breaks NAT? What are you doing that > works when ICS isn't enabled? What's different when you enable ICS? > If there are error messages, what do they say? > > 2. How many network adapters does the Windows XP box have? What is > each one connected to? What is the IP address and subnet mask of each > one? address 10.1.1.1. I configured it to route 192.168.100.121 address through Windows XP box (which has IP address 10.1.1.225). Windows XP box has two network interfaces: First: ip 10.1.1.225, default gw 10.1.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0 Second: ip 192.168.100.81, subnet 255.255.255.0 When I enable IPEnableRouter in windows xp box, I can ping to 192.168.100.121 (it is a computer on a second network) from other computer on a network with IP addresses of 10.1.1.x (for example from 10.1.1.121). And thats fine. BUT, if I enabled ICS, I can't ping from 10.1.1.121 to 192.168.100.121 anymore. > 3. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the Internet The first one with IP address 10.1.1.225> connection? > 4. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the home network Yeah, I know that. But after that I manually changed back second interface > connection? ICS automatically changes that connection's IP address to > 192.168.0.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. address to 192.168.100.81 > I think that you and I use different terminology, and I don't want it Yeah, I ment IP forwarding then, not NAT. So I suppose I want IP forwarding > to prevent me from understanding your question. As I see it: > > 1. The IPEnableRouter registry key enables IP forwarding in Windows > XP. IP forwarding causes packets that arrive at one network interface > to be repeated on other network interfaces, allowing an XP computer to > route traffic between multiple subnets. Is that what you mean by > "NAT". to work between interfaces AND I want to forward couple of ports (for example 10.1.1.225 24868 to 192.168.100.121 4868) In article <E23FD723-0444-483C-89B0-BD8FE2185***@microsoft.com>,
Vilius <Vil***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: You're welcome.>> >Hello, >> > >> >I have configured NAT on Windows XP box by enabling IPEnableRouter in >> >registry. Everything worked like a sharm. Now I want to forward some ports to >> >one host on internal network. I know that I need ICS for that. So I enabled >> >ICS and forwarded some ports and it worked too. The problem is, that just >> >after I enabled ICS, NAT doesn't work anymore. My question is how can I make >> >NAT AND ICS work together? >> >> I'd like to help, but I don't have enough information. Please answer >> these questions, and include any other information you can think of >> that would help people understand the situation: >> >> 1. What indicates to you that ICS breaks NAT? What are you doing that >> works when ICS isn't enabled? What's different when you enable ICS? >> If there are error messages, what do they say? >> >> 2. How many network adapters does the Windows XP box have? What is >> each one connected to? What is the IP address and subnet mask of each >> one? > >OK, my network topology is as follows. I have gateway hardware box with IP >address 10.1.1.1. I configured it to route 192.168.100.121 address through >Windows XP box (which has IP address 10.1.1.225). > >Windows XP box has two network interfaces: >First: ip 10.1.1.225, default gw 10.1.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0 >Second: ip 192.168.100.81, subnet 255.255.255.0 > >When I enable IPEnableRouter in windows xp box, I can ping to >192.168.100.121 (it is a computer on a second network) from other computer on >a network with IP addresses of 10.1.1.x (for example from 10.1.1.121). And >thats fine. > >BUT, if I enabled ICS, I can't ping from 10.1.1.121 to 192.168.100.121 >anymore. > >> 3. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the Internet >> connection? > >The first one with IP address 10.1.1.225 > >> 4. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the home network >> connection? ICS automatically changes that connection's IP address to >> 192.168.0.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. > >Yeah, I know that. But after that I manually changed back second interface >address to 192.168.100.81 > >> I think that you and I use different terminology, and I don't want it >> to prevent me from understanding your question. As I see it: >> >> 1. The IPEnableRouter registry key enables IP forwarding in Windows >> XP. IP forwarding causes packets that arrive at one network interface >> to be repeated on other network interfaces, allowing an XP computer to >> route traffic between multiple subnets. Is that what you mean by >> "NAT". > >Yeah, I ment IP forwarding then, not NAT. So I suppose I want IP forwarding >to work between interfaces AND I want to forward couple of ports (for example >10.1.1.225 24868 to 192.168.100.121 4868) You've changed the IP address range that ICS assigned to the second interface. ICS doesn't support using any range except 192.168.0.x, and I've seen strange things happen when that's changed. I don't think that what you want to do is possible using ICS. Disable ICS, then make sure that IPEnableRouter is still enabled. I also don't think that you need to use ICS. If I understand your setup, you can create exceptions in the Windows Firewall to forward the desired ports. I haven't tried this, but here's how I think it would work with the Windows Firewall enabled on the first network adapter: 1. Go to Control Panel > Security Center > Windows Firewall. 2. Set the firewall to "On", and un-check "Don't allow exceptions". 3. Click the Exceptions tab. 4. Click "Add Port" and define the desired incoming port.. 5. Click Advanced. 6. Click the network connection that uses the first adapter and click Settings. 7. Click Add and create a service definition, specifying the desired computer name/address and port numbers. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: I tried that before I began fidling with ICS, but it wouldn't work. In > 1. Go to Control Panel > Security Center > Windows Firewall. > > 2. Set the firewall to "On", and un-check "Don't allow exceptions". > > 3. Click the Exceptions tab. > > 4. Click "Add Port" and define the desired incoming port.. > > 5. Click Advanced. > > 6. Click the network connection that uses the first adapter and click > Settings. > > 7. Click Add and create a service definition, specifying the desired > computer name/address and port numbers. Advanced I get exactly the same window as in ICS, so I suppose it doesn't work until ICS is enabled, and I think this -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297942/en-us KB article just prooves that I am right. Any other thoughts are appreciated. In article <DF311666-E237-4FBF-8096-F941AFB37***@microsoft.com>,
Vilius <Vil***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >>>OK, my network topology is as follows. I have gateway hardware box with IP I think you're right about what that article says. As I said, I>>>address 10.1.1.1. I configured it to route 192.168.100.121 address through >>>Windows XP box (which has IP address 10.1.1.225). >>> >>>Windows XP box has two network interfaces: >>>First: ip 10.1.1.225, default gw 10.1.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0 >>>Second: ip 192.168.100.81, subnet 255.255.255.0 >>> >>>When I enable IPEnableRouter in windows xp box, I can ping to >>>192.168.100.121 (it is a computer on a second network) from other computer on >>>a network with IP addresses of 10.1.1.x (for example from 10.1.1.121). And >>>thats fine. >>> >>>BUT, if I enabled ICS, I can't ping from 10.1.1.121 to 192.168.100.121 >>>anymore. >>> >>>> 3. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the Internet >>>> connection? >>> >>>The first one with IP address 10.1.1.225 >>> >>>> 4. Which network adapter have you told ICS to use as the home network >>>> connection? ICS automatically changes that connection's IP address to >>>> 192.168.0.1, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. >>> >>>Yeah, I know that. But after that I manually changed back second interface >>>address to 192.168.100.81 >>> >>>> I think that you and I use different terminology, and I don't want it >>>> to prevent me from understanding your question. As I see it: >>>> >>>> 1. The IPEnableRouter registry key enables IP forwarding in Windows >>>> XP. IP forwarding causes packets that arrive at one network interface >>>> to be repeated on other network interfaces, allowing an XP computer to >>>> route traffic between multiple subnets. Is that what you mean by >>>> "NAT". >>> >>>Yeah, I ment IP forwarding then, not NAT. So I suppose I want IP forwarding >>>to work between interfaces AND I want to forward couple of ports (for example >>>10.1.1.225 24868 to 192.168.100.121 4868) >> >>You're welcome. >> >>You've changed the IP address range that ICS assigned to the second >>interface. ICS doesn't support using any range except 192.168.0.x, >>and I've seen strange things happen when that's changed. I don't >>think that what you want to do is possible using ICS. Disable ICS, >>then make sure that IPEnableRouter is still enabled. >> >>I also don't think that you need to use ICS. If I understand your >>setup, you can create exceptions in the Windows Firewall to forward >>the desired ports. I haven't tried this, but here's how I think it >>would work with the Windows Firewall enabled on the first network >>adapter: >> >>1. Go to Control Panel > Security Center > Windows Firewall. >> >>2. Set the firewall to "On", and un-check "Don't allow exceptions". >> >>3. Click the Exceptions tab. >> >>4. Click "Add Port" and define the desired incoming port.. >> >>5. Click Advanced. >> >>6. Click the network connection that uses the first adapter and click >>Settings. >> >>7. Click Add and create a service definition, specifying the desired >>computer name/address and port numbers. > >I tried that before I began fidling with ICS, but it wouldn't work. In >Advanced I get exactly the same window as in ICS, so I suppose it doesn't >work until ICS is enabled, and I think this -> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297942/en-us KB article just prooves that I >am right. > >Any other thoughts are appreciated. haven't tired the configuration that I suggested. Can you change the 192.168.100.x network to use 192.168.0.x so that it's compatible with ICS? -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: No, because I already have one. Moreover network 192.168.100.x has half a > I think you're right about what that article says. As I said, I > haven't tired the configuration that I suggested. > > Can you change the 192.168.100.x network to use 192.168.0.x so that > it's compatible with ICS? million devices with half a million software on them, so it must not be bothered. BTW, I tried forwarding ports through netsh, and it behaves the same as ICS. Just after I install NAT (netsh routing ip nat install), IP forwarding between interfaces doesn't work. In article <213A30DD-2DE8-4640-AA0B-45B34E5E3***@microsoft.com>,
Vilius <Vil***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> I think you're right about what that article says. As I said, I I'm sorry, but I'm out of ideas. I don't know enough about your>> haven't tired the configuration that I suggested. >> >> Can you change the 192.168.100.x network to use 192.168.0.x so that >> it's compatible with ICS? > >No, because I already have one. Moreover network 192.168.100.x has half a >million devices with half a million software on them, so it must not be >bothered. > >BTW, I tried forwarding ports through netsh, and it behaves the same as ICS. >Just after I install NAT (netsh routing ip nat install), IP forwarding >between interfaces doesn't work. network and its requirements to suggest anything else. :-(
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