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Author
25 Sep 2006 4:38 PM
jrico
I just purchased a wifi card for an older computer w/ WIN98 our kids
will use. I setup and installed the card w/o problems. Used the netgear
connection wizard to setup the network info and everything looks fine
there. It sees the wifi router and all but there is no internet
connection. tcp/ip set to obtain ip auto., checked DHCP for WINS res.,
disable dns. What am I missing here?  Thanks for any advice.

Author
25 Sep 2006 5:43 PM
BobC
On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, jrico wrote:

> I just purchased a wifi card for an older computer w/ WIN98 our kids
> will use. I setup and installed the card w/o problems. Used the netgear
> connection wizard to setup the network info and everything looks fine
> there. It sees the wifi router and all but there is no internet
> connection. tcp/ip set to obtain ip auto., checked DHCP for WINS res.,
> disable dns. What am I missing here?  Thanks for any advice.

I believe wifi will not work on win98. At least win98SE is required.
Author
25 Sep 2006 6:01 PM
jrico
BobC wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, jrico wrote:
>
>
> I believe wifi will not work on win98. At least win98SE is required.


BobC

I do have WIN98 SE
Author
25 Sep 2006 10:32 PM
BobC
On 25 Sep 2006 11:01:56 -0700, jrico wrote:

> BobC wrote:
>> On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, jrico wrote:
>>
>>
>> I believe wifi will not work on win98. At least win98SE is required.
>
>
> BobC
>
> I do have WIN98 SE

Netgear's site says your WG311T requires win2000 or XP See:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/Adapters/SuperGWirelessAdapters/WG311T.aspx?detail=System+Requirements
Author
26 Sep 2006 1:16 AM
jrico
BobC wrote:
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> On 25 Sep 2006 11:01:56 -0700, jrico wrote:
>
> > BobC wrote:
> >> On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, jrico wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe wifi will not work on win98. At least win98SE is required.
> >
> >
> > BobC
> >
> > I do have WIN98 SE
>
> Netgear's site says your WG311T requires win2000 or XP See:
> http://www.netgear.com/Products/Adapters/SuperGWirelessAdapters/WG311T.aspx?detail=System+Requirements

Thnx BobC
I didn't see that! That explains it.
Author
25 Sep 2006 6:31 PM
Chuck
On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, "jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:

>I just purchased a wifi card for an older computer w/ WIN98 our kids
>will use. I setup and installed the card w/o problems. Used the netgear
>connection wizard to setup the network info and everything looks fine
>there. It sees the wifi router and all but there is no internet
>connection. tcp/ip set to obtain ip auto., checked DHCP for WINS res.,
>disable dns. What am I missing here?  Thanks for any advice.

Why did you disable DNS?  Without DNS, you'll not have Internet use.  WINS is a
server, that only resolves local names.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
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Author
25 Sep 2006 7:02 PM
jrico
Chuck wrote:
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> On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, "jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> Why did you disable DNS?  Without DNS, you'll not have Internet use.  WINS is a
> server, that only resolves local names.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.

I was following some instructions from another website.
Is there anyone that can instruct me on how to setup the tcp'ip
protocols on Win98se and get this thing working?
Author
25 Sep 2006 7:40 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <fv7gh2lgorn2kck1f90mbippd8bvlbn***@4ax.com>, Chuck
<n***@example.net> wrote:
>On 25 Sep 2006 09:38:13 -0700, "jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I just purchased a wifi card for an older computer w/ WIN98 our kids
>>will use. I setup and installed the card w/o problems. Used the netgear
>>connection wizard to setup the network info and everything looks fine
>>there. It sees the wifi router and all but there is no internet
>>connection. tcp/ip set to obtain ip auto., checked DHCP for WINS res.,
>>disable dns. What am I missing here?  Thanks for any advice.
>
>Why did you disable DNS?  Without DNS, you'll not have Internet use.  WINS is a
>server, that only resolves local names.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

Hi, Chuck.  The settings that "jrico" made are OK for Windows 98.
They don't have the same meaning that they have in Windows XP.

"Disable DNS" is equivalent to XP's "Obtain DNS server address
automatically".  The alternative in Windows 98 is "Enable DNS", which
requires you to enter a host name and static DNS server addresses.

"Use DHCP for WINS Resolution" configures a network connection to get
its WINS server address from the DHCP server.  In a home network,
there isn't a WINS server, the DHCP server won't assign a WINS server
address, and everything will be fine.  The alternatives in Windows 98
are "Disable WINS Resolution", which is also OK, and "Enable WINS
Resolution", which requires you to enter a static WINS server address.
Author
25 Sep 2006 7:45 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <1159202293.739471.71***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just purchased a wifi card for an older computer w/ WIN98 our kids
>will use. I setup and installed the card w/o problems. Used the netgear
>connection wizard to setup the network info and everything looks fine
>there. It sees the wifi router and all but there is no internet
>connection. tcp/ip set to obtain ip auto., checked DHCP for WINS res.,
>disable dns. What am I missing here?  Thanks for any advice.

Have you specified the right SSID, encryption type, and encryption
key?

Does the wireless router's list of DHCP clients show the WIN98
computer?

Run "winipcfg" and see if the WiFi card is getting a valid IP address,
subnet mask, default gateway, and DNS server address from the wireless
router's DHCP server.

If it has a valid IP address, type these lines in a command prompt
window (Start > run > command) to see if it can communicate with the
router and the Internet.  Each one should get four replies:

   ping <router's IP address>   (example: 192.168.1.1)
   ping 216.239.39.100
   ping www.google.com
Author
25 Sep 2006 8:01 PM
jrico
Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>
>
> Have you specified the right SSID, encryption type, and encryption
> key?

yes I have
>
> Does the wireless router's list of DHCP clients show the WIN98
> computer?

no it doesn't
>
> Run "winipcfg" and see if the WiFi card is getting a valid IP address,
> subnet mask, default gateway, and DNS server address from the wireless
> router's DHCP server.
>

Nope

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> If it has a valid IP address, type these lines in a command prompt
> window (Start > run > command) to see if it can communicate with the
> router and the Internet.  Each one should get four replies:
>
>    ping <router's IP address>   (example: 192.168.1.1)
>    ping 216.239.39.100
>    ping www.google.com
Author
25 Sep 2006 8:17 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <1159214466.046984.33***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
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"jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>>
>> Have you specified the right SSID, encryption type, and encryption
>> key?
>
>yes I have
>>
>> Does the wireless router's list of DHCP clients show the WIN98
>> computer?
>
>no it doesn't
>>
>> Run "winipcfg" and see if the WiFi card is getting a valid IP address,
>> subnet mask, default gateway, and DNS server address from the wireless
>> router's DHCP server.
>
>Nope
>
>> If it has a valid IP address, type these lines in a command prompt
>> window (Start > run > command) to see if it can communicate with the
>> router and the Internet.  Each one should get four replies:
>>
>>    ping <router's IP address>   (example: 192.168.1.1)
>>    ping 216.239.39.100
>>    ping www.google.com

That's not much information for someone to help solve the problem.  We
only know as much as you tell us.

It appears that the WiFi card isn't connecting to the wireless
network.  I assume that there's a wireless network connection utility
program.  What does it show?

What make and model is the WiFi card?  What type of encryption does
the network use?
Author
25 Sep 2006 8:27 PM
jrico
Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
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> In article <1159214466.046984.33***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
om
>
> That's not much information for someone to help solve the problem.  We
> only know as much as you tell us.
>
> It appears that the WiFi card isn't connecting to the wireless
> network.  I assume that there's a wireless network connection utility
> program.  What does it show?
>
> What make and model is the WiFi card?  What type of encryption does
> the network use?

Netgear Wg311t, I used netgear's setup util. to install card , program
ssid, wep passphrase, 64 bit encryp. I feel confident that I did all
that correctly.

I used this in another comp just fine til I changed to this comp.
It appears to have some connection to the router as it is able to
display signal strength and Mbps.

I have two other comps w/ XP running wifi just fine on my network. This
is my 1st Win98 to do and expected it to be just as easy.
Author
25 Sep 2006 8:31 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <1159216034.872972.188***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
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"jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It appears that the WiFi card isn't connecting to the wireless
>> network.  I assume that there's a wireless network connection utility
>> program.  What does it show?
>>
>> What make and model is the WiFi card?  What type of encryption does
>> the network use?
>
>Netgear Wg311t, I used netgear's setup util. to install card , program
>ssid, wep passphrase, 64 bit encryp. I feel confident that I did all
>that correctly.
>
>I used this in another comp just fine til I changed to this comp.
>It appears to have some connection to the router as it is able to
>display signal strength and Mbps.
>
>I have two other comps w/ XP running wifi just fine on my network. This
>is my 1st Win98 to do and expected it to be just as easy.

I'd temporarily disable encryption in the router and see if the Win98
computer can connect to the router and access the Internet.  If it
can, then re-enable encryption in the router and specify the
encryption settings in the Win98 utility program.  If it can't,
something could be wrong with the network card. Un-installing and
re-installing it might help.
Author
25 Sep 2006 9:45 PM
Joe
Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
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> In article <1159216034.872972.188***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "jrico" <pent***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It appears that the WiFi card isn't connecting to the wireless
>>> network.  I assume that there's a wireless network connection utility
>>> program.  What does it show?
>>>
>>> What make and model is the WiFi card?  What type of encryption does
>>> the network use?
>> Netgear Wg311t, I used netgear's setup util. to install card , program
>> ssid, wep passphrase, 64 bit encryp. I feel confident that I did all
>> that correctly.
>>
>> I used this in another comp just fine til I changed to this comp.
>> It appears to have some connection to the router as it is able to
>> display signal strength and Mbps.
>>
>> I have two other comps w/ XP running wifi just fine on my network. This
>> is my 1st Win98 to do and expected it to be just as easy.
>
> I'd temporarily disable encryption in the router and see if the Win98
> computer can connect to the router and access the Internet.  If it
> can, then re-enable encryption in the router and specify the
> encryption settings in the Win98 utility program.  If it can't,
> something could be wrong with the network card. Un-installing and
> re-installing it might help.

I am running a laptop with WIN98 SE succesfully. I configured manually
with a static IP address of 192.168.1.101  , because my router is
192.168.1.1. My router is a Linksys WR45.

Jroberts