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DHCP + NAT port forwarding = does NOT work ??As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does never work.
For NAT port forwarding rules the router need to know to which target computer (=target IP) he should forwarding incoming requests. Because of DHCP the target computer can be assigned a dynamic, from time to time changing IP. Hence there is no fixed IP for the NAT rule which can be entered. On the other hand a computer name like "comp123" cannot be antered in the NAT forwarding scheme because only IPs are allowed. Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. Am I right or is there a workaroud ? Wolfgang In article <4518cb06$0$17392$9b4e6***@newsspool2.arcor-online.net>,
Wolfgang Hercker says... > As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does never work. Set a static IP address on the target computer running the service you > > For NAT port forwarding rules the router need to know to which target computer (=target IP) > he should forwarding incoming requests. Because of DHCP the target computer can be assigned > a dynamic, from time to time changing IP. Hence there is no fixed IP for the NAT rule > which can be entered. > > On the other hand a computer name like "comp123" cannot be antered in the NAT forwarding scheme > because only IPs are allowed. > > Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. > > Am I right or is there a workaroud ? want. THe DHCP service will see this and not assign it or you can give it something like 192.168.0.2 and set the DHCP to only assign IP addresses from 192.168.0.3 to 192.168.0.254. My Netgear router however always assigns the same IP address to the same MAC address so for me it's a non issue. -- Conor I'm really a nice guy. If I had friends, they would tell you. Earn commission on online purchases, £2.50 just for signing up: http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/Conor/ref/index.htm Wolfgang Hercker wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does never work. My SOHO router is the DHCP server and does NAT between the LAN and WAN> > For NAT port forwarding rules the router need to know to which target computer (=target IP) > he should forwarding incoming requests. Because of DHCP the target computer can be assigned > a dynamic, from time to time changing IP. Hence there is no fixed IP for the NAT rule > which can be entered. > > On the other hand a computer name like "comp123" cannot be antered in the NAT forwarding scheme > because only IPs are allowed. > > Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. > > Am I right or is there a workaroud ? > > Wolfgang > sides. Works fine. In reality, DHCP usually has very stable IPA assignments; when a DHCP client's lease is nearly due to expire, it asks the server for a new IPA, and usually gets the same one. Hence, NAT is not affected very often, and only briefly when the IPA does change. -- Cheers, Bob In article <4518cb06$0$17392$9b4e6***@newsspool2.arcor-online.net>,
w.herc***@hotmail.com says... > As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does never work. for most of the cheap NAT devices, their DHCP service does not permit > > For NAT port forwarding rules the router need to know to which target computer (=target IP) > he should forwarding incoming requests. Because of DHCP the target computer can be assigned > a dynamic, from time to time changing IP. Hence there is no fixed IP for the NAT rule > which can be entered. > > On the other hand a computer name like "comp123" cannot be antered in the NAT forwarding scheme > because only IPs are allowed. > > Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. > > Am I right or is there a workaroud ? DHCP Reservations - so, that means that for your forwarding to always work, you have to give the LAN NODE a fixed IP in the LAN. People do this all the time, all you need to do is give the device a LAN IP, setup the DNS (for the ISP's numbers if you want it to browse the web) and then setup forwarding for that. If your device supports DHCP Reservations, then you only need assign the MAC address to an IP address and that device will always be issued the same IP from the DHCP Pool. DHCP and Port Forwarding have nothing to do with each other, they are not exclusionary. I have DHCP and Port Forwarding, but I only forward to the nodes with a reservation or a fixed IP. -- spam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me Check this registry setting to see if computers are enabled for forwarding
IPEnableRouter Key: Tcpip\Parameters Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean Valid Range: 0 or 1 (False or True) Default: 0 (False) Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes the computer to route IP packets between the networks that it is connected to. or if this doesnt help then take a look at this article. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/nattrnsv.mspx "Wolfgang Hercker" <w.herc***@hotmail.com> wrote in message Configure the router's DHCP server to assign IP addressesnews:4518cb06$0$17392$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net... > As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does > never work. > > > Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. > > Am I right or is there a workaroud ? > > Wolfgang > based on the MAC address of the requesting computer. The computer always gets the same IP address and NAT port forwarding works fine. Some routers do not have that capability. I don't buy those routers. You are right.
Although there is no "real" term of "Port Forwarding". As just an FYI,...the ports aren't being forwarded,..the ports aren't going anywhere or doing anything. This is "slang lingo" created by the SOHO market back when they decided to call Broadband Routers "routers" when they are not really routers. The real thing that is happening is that the IP#s are being statically translated "backwards" to a host behind the NAT device,...so this is called "Static NAT" when the ports at both ends are the same. If the ports at both ends are different then it is called Static NAT with PAT (Static NAT combined with Port Address Tranlation). -- Show quoteHide quotePhillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA] www.wandtv.com ----------------------------------------------------- Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing http://www.isaserver.org/articles/ISA2004_AccessRules.html Troubleshooting Client Authentication on Access Rules in ISA Server 2004 http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/1/8/918ed2d3-71d0-40ed-8e6d-fd6eeb6cfa07/ts_rules.doc Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/techinfo/Guidance/2004.asp http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/techinfo/Guidance/2000.asp Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp Deployment Guidelines for ISA Server 2004 Enterprise Edition http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/deploy/dgisaserver.mspx ----------------------------------------------------- "Wolfgang Hercker" <w.herc***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4518cb06$0$17392$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net... > As far as I know a LAN with a DHCP router AND NAT port forwarding does > never work. > > For NAT port forwarding rules the router need to know to which target > computer (=target IP) > he should forwarding incoming requests. Because of DHCP the target > computer can be assigned > a dynamic, from time to time changing IP. Hence there is no fixed IP for > the NAT rule > which can be entered. > > On the other hand a computer name like "comp123" cannot be antered in the > NAT forwarding scheme > because only IPs are allowed. > > Finally DHCP and NAT port forwarding exclude each other. > > Am I right or is there a workaroud ? > > Wolfgang >
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