"eli" wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>
> Kindly excuse the repetition.
>
> I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
> www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>
>
> .. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>
> =================================
>
> I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>
> The Network Card on my PC is: 
> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
> 
> Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>
>
>       " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>       Driver: e1000325.sys
>       Friday, December 23, 2005
>       Supported "
>      
>      
>
>
> I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>
> This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>
> I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>
> When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>
> ===============================
>    "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>
>    "Explanation :
>
>    The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
> ===============================
>
>                                                                                      
>
> That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>
>  "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>
> I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>
> My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>
> So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>
> I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>
> Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>
> Thanks in advance:
>
> -Eli
>
> ===========
>
> Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>
> Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>
> The Network Card on my PC is: 
> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

"Pablo" <Pa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A8B1292F-E861-48C1-979B-736AFE8D4F40@microsoft.com...
> Hi Eli,
> I would guess your configuration is something like this:
>
> DSL modem-Linksys-2 PC
>
> Am I right?
>
> Are both PC connecting wirelessly to the linksys?
>
> Pablo.
>
> "eli" wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>>
>> Kindly excuse the repetition.
>>
>> I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as
>> recommened to me when I first posted here:
>> www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>>
>>
>> .. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>>
>> =================================
>>
>> I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a
>> Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>>
>> The Network Card on my PC is:
>> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection -
>>
>> Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver
>> for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>>
>>
>>       " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler
>> Miniport
>>       Driver: e1000325.sys
>>       Friday, December 23, 2005
>>       Supported "
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection
>> with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow
>> exclamation point on the system tray icon.
>>
>> This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>>
>> I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and
>> router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>>
>> When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer
>> with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>>
>> ===============================
>>    "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the
>> Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being
>> used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>>
>>    "Explanation :
>>
>>    The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response
>> from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time
>> limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid,
>> and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>> ===============================
>>
>>
>>
>> That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity"
>> connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug
>> them as described above.
>>
>>  "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network
>> Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite
>> detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it
>> inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit
>> later.
>>
>> I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I
>> gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System
>> Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol
>> seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock
>> registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely
>> diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>>
>> My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS
>> Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no
>> Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>>
>> I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall
>> functions.
>>
>> Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>>
>> Thanks in advance:
>>
>> -Eli
>>
>> ===========
>>
>> Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>>
>> Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>>
>> The Network Card on my PC is:
>> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

"eli" wrote:

> Both PC's are connected individually to the Linksys BEFSR 41 Router. We do
> not share files or printers.
>
> Neither PC is wireless. My PC is a desktop
> The other PC is a laptop
>
> -Eli
>
> **********************************
> "Pablo" <Pa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A8B1292F-E861-48C1-979B-736AFE8D4F40@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Eli,
> > I would guess your configuration is something like this:
> >
> > DSL modem-Linksys-2 PC
> >
> > Am I right?
> >
> > Are both PC connecting wirelessly to the linksys?
> >
> > Pablo.
> >
> > "eli" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello:
> >>
> >> I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
> >>
> >> Kindly excuse the repetition.
> >>
> >> I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as
> >> recommened to me when I first posted here:
> >> www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> .. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
> >>
> >> =================================
> >>
> >> I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a
> >> Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
> >>
> >> The Network Card on my PC is:
> >> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection -
> >>
> >> Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver
> >> for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
> >>
> >>
> >>       " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler
> >> Miniport
> >>       Driver: e1000325.sys
> >>       Friday, December 23, 2005
> >>       Supported "
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection
> >> with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow
> >> exclamation point on the system tray icon.
> >>
> >> This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
> >>
> >> I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and
> >> router for about 30 sec and replugging them
> >>
> >> When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer
> >> with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
> >>
> >> ===============================
> >>    "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the
> >> Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being
> >> used is 169.254.245.117.  "
> >>
> >>    "Explanation :
> >>
> >>    The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response
> >> from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time
> >> limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid,
> >> and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
> >> ===============================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity"
> >> connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug
> >> them as described above.
> >>
> >>  "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network
> >> Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite
> >> detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it
> >> inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit
> >> later.
> >>
> >> I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I
> >> gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System
> >> Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol
> >> seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock
> >> registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely
> >> diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
> >>
> >> My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS
> >> Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this
> >> newsgroup.
> >>
> >> So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no
> >> Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
> >>
> >> I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall
> >> functions.
> >>
> >> Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance:
> >>
> >> -Eli
> >>
> >> ===========
> >>
> >> Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
> >>
> >> Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
> >>
> >> The Network Card on my PC is:
> >> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Pablo" <Pa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA40D9D0-6BAE-4F66-91FE-BBA45371840F@microsoft.com...
> Eli,
> Is the linksys serving as DHCP server? Did you try
> uninstalling/re-installing the ethernet adapter card? Have you tryed
> connecting the failing PC to a different ethernet port on the linksys? Is the
> ethernet cable that connects the PC to the linksys in good conditions? Have
> you tryed using the cable the other computer has right now?
>
> Pablo
>
> "eli" wrote:
>
>> Both PC's are connected individually to the Linksys BEFSR 41 Router. We do
>> not share files or printers.
>>
>> Neither PC is wireless. My PC is a desktop
>> The other PC is a laptop
>>
>> -Eli
>>
>> **********************************
>> "Pablo" <Pa***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A8B1292F-E861-48C1-979B-736AFE8D4F40@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Eli,
>> > I would guess your configuration is something like this:
>> >
>> > DSL modem-Linksys-2 PC
>> >
>> > Am I right?
>> >
>> > Are both PC connecting wirelessly to the linksys?
>> >
>> > Pablo.
>> >
>> > "eli" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello:
>> >>
>> >> I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>> >>
>> >> Kindly excuse the repetition.
>> >>
>> >> I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as
>> >> recommened to me when I first posted here:
>> >> www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>> >>
>> >> =================================
>> >>
>> >> I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a
>> >> Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>> >>
>> >> The Network Card on my PC is:
>> >> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection -
>> >>
>> >> Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver
>> >> for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>       " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler
>> >> Miniport
>> >>       Driver: e1000325.sys
>> >>       Friday, December 23, 2005
>> >>       Supported "
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection
>> >> with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow
>> >> exclamation point on the system tray icon.
>> >>
>> >> This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>> >>
>> >> I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and
>> >> router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>> >>
>> >> When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer
>> >> with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>> >>
>> >> ===============================
>> >>    "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the
>> >> Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being
>> >> used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>> >>
>> >>    "Explanation :
>> >>
>> >>    The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response
>> >> from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time
>> >> limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid,
>> >> and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>> >> ===============================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity"
>> >> connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug
>> >> them as described above.
>> >>
>> >>  "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network
>> >> Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite
>> >> detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it
>> >> inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit
>> >> later.
>> >>
>> >> I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I
>> >> gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System
>> >> Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol
>> >> seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock
>> >> registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely
>> >> diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>> >>
>> >> My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS
>> >> Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this
>> >> newsgroup.
>> >>
>> >> So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no
>> >> Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>> >>
>> >> I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall
>> >> functions.
>> >>
>> >> Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance:
>> >>
>> >> -Eli
>> >>
>> >> ===========
>> >>
>> >> Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>> >>
>> >> Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>> >>
>> >> The Network Card on my PC is:
>> >> Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:07 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:

>Hello:
>
>I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>
>Kindly excuse the repetition.
>
>I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
>www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>
>
>. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>
>=================================
>
>I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>
>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
>
>Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>
>
>      " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>      Driver: e1000325.sys
>      Friday, December 23, 2005
>      Supported "
>     
>     
>
>
>I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>
>This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>
>I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>
>When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>
>===============================
>   "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>
>   "Explanation :
>
>   The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>===============================
>
>                                                                                     
>
>That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>
> "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>
>I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>
>My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>
>So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>
>I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>
>Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>
>Thanks in advance:
>
>-Eli
>
>===========
>
>Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>
>Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>
>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection

"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:otajh25mhi34o7rr73pslonk39ogq8qaus@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:07 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Hello:
>>
>>I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>>
>>Kindly excuse the repetition.
>>
>>I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
>>www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>>
>>
>>. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>>
>>=================================
>>
>>I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>>
>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
>>
>>Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>>
>>
>>      " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>>      Driver: e1000325.sys
>>      Friday, December 23, 2005
>>      Supported "
>>     
>>     
>>
>>
>>I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>>
>>This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>>
>>I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>>
>>When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>>
>>===============================
>>   "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>>
>>   "Explanation :
>>
>>   The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>>===============================
>>
>>                                                                                     
>>
>>That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>>
>> "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>>
>>I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>>
>>My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>>
>>So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>>
>>I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>>
>>Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>>
>>Thanks in advance:
>>
>>-Eli
>>
>>===========
>>
>>Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>>
>>Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>>
>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> OK, so we will continue here.
>
> A periodic disconnection, repaired by physically disconnecting (ONLY?) the modem
> and router, does not sound like an LSP / Winsock problem.  But with all due
> respect to Microsoft, the native netsh command is not the only way to fix such a
> problem, and their advice isn't always complete.  So we'll save that for later.
>
> If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this.
>
> Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three
>
> Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:52:47 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:

>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:otajh25mhi34o7rr73pslonk39ogq8qaus@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:07 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello:
>>>
>>>I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>>>
>>>Kindly excuse the repetition.
>>>
>>>I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
>>>www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>>>
>>>=================================
>>>
>>>I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>>>
>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
>>>
>>>Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>>>
>>>
>>>      " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>>>      Driver: e1000325.sys
>>>      Friday, December 23, 2005
>>>      Supported "
>>>     
>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>>>
>>>This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>>>
>>>I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>>>
>>>When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>>>
>>>===============================
>>>   "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>>>
>>>   "Explanation :
>>>
>>>   The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>>>===============================
>>>
>>>                                                                                     
>>>
>>>That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>>>
>>> "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>>>
>>>I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>>>
>>>My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>>>
>>>So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>>>
>>>I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>>>
>>>Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance:
>>>
>>>-Eli
>>>
>>>===========
>>>
>>>Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>>>
>>>Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>>>
>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>>
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> OK, so we will continue here.
>>
>> A periodic disconnection, repaired by physically disconnecting (ONLY?) the modem
>> and router, does not sound like an LSP / Winsock problem.  But with all due
>> respect to Microsoft, the native netsh command is not the only way to fix such a
>> problem, and their advice isn't always complete.  So we'll save that for later.
>>
>> If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this.
>>
>> Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three
>>
>> Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html
>Chuck wrote:
>
>"Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?"
>
>Hi again: The only Power Management Option I see regarding the Network Adapter is found at: LAN-->Properties-->General-->>Configure.
>
>There is a Netwotk Adapter  Power Management option box there  to allow the  computer to turn the device off to save power.
>
>
> It's unchecked on both PC's. In other word: Power Management for the Network adapter is disabled. I disabled it after the problem first occured, but it didnt resolve it.
>
>Under CONFIGURE for the Network Adpater--at the General tab--I get the following:
>
>
>"This device is working properly.
>If you are having problems with this device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."
>
>The disconnects generally happen when I'm not using the PC,  though I always leave the connection on. When I attempt to use the PC in the late afternoons- after not using it for a few hours, I often  see that yellow exclamation sign with the "Limited or no Connectivity" at the connection icon in the sys tray. The other PC remains with normal connection.
>
>We've had this LAN working properly since late July. The problems first began on September 18.
>
>I can try and verify if the other PC is still connected when I unplug the modem. I can't see how it could be since it's the modem which allows her to connect to the interent.
>
>Chuck wrote:
>
>" Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs."
>
>I think so, but it's an external network adapter. I believe it's a Linksys Adapter that she uses for the LAN in question.. I could try swapping ports on the Router, if she's willing ot allow me, but swapping the cables would be a bit tricky since her cable is only a few feet long and mine is between 50-60- ft. I'd have to purchase a new cable wire to try that.
>
>Chuck wrote:
>
>"If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this."
>                                                                                                                    
>
>I wish there was an easier way to do this, as this annoys the other user on the LAN, but I haven't found one...
>
>I assume she loses her connection as well--when I unplug the Modem and Router-- since those are what she uses to connect as well. But I'll try to verify this .   
>
>If you don't mind,  I have another piece of info which may or may not be relevant to the problem here:
>
>I also noticed the following:
>
>Control Panel-->Network Connections-->
>I click on the  LAN being used:
>
>Properties-->Advanced-->
>
>Brings me to the pane about the Windows Firewall/ICS.
>
>Midway down that pane:
>
>"Internet Connection Sharing"
>
>Both boxes about allowing other nework users to connect and/or control  are checked in.
>
>However, when I click on SETTINGS on that Internet Connection Sharing portion of that advanced panel. I see:
>
> I see : Services
>
>"Select the services running on your computer that Internet users can access"
>
>
>Below that panel is a vertical array of eight unchecked boxes including:
>
> DHCP[67],  DHCP[68],   DNS,   FTP Server,    UPnP[TCP], UPnP[UDP]...etc...
>
>1) Am I corect in asuming that Internet users there means users on that LAN?
>
>2) Should any of those uncheked boxes be checked in?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>-Eli

"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:adgjh2p6mflq1t4ovkk53272j2fl1feajj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:52:47 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:otajh25mhi34o7rr73pslonk39ogq8qaus@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:07 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello:
>>>>
>>>>I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>>>>
>>>>Kindly excuse the repetition.
>>>>
>>>>I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
>>>>www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>>>>
>>>>=================================
>>>>
>>>>I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>>>>
>>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
>>>>
>>>>Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>>>>      Driver: e1000325.sys
>>>>      Friday, December 23, 2005
>>>>      Supported "
>>>>     
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>>>>
>>>>This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>>>>
>>>>I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>>>>
>>>>When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>>>>
>>>>===============================
>>>>   "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>>>>
>>>>   "Explanation :
>>>>
>>>>   The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>>>>===============================
>>>>
>>>>                                                                                     
>>>>
>>>>That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>>>>
>>>> "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>>>>
>>>>I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>>>>
>>>>My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>>>>
>>>>I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>>>>
>>>>Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance:
>>>>
>>>>-Eli
>>>>
>>>>===========
>>>>
>>>>Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>>>>
>>>>Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>>>>
>>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>>>
>>> Hi Eli,
>>>
>>> OK, so we will continue here.
>>>
>>> A periodic disconnection, repaired by physically disconnecting (ONLY?) the modem
>>> and router, does not sound like an LSP / Winsock problem.  But with all due
>>> respect to Microsoft, the native netsh command is not the only way to fix such a
>>> problem, and their advice isn't always complete.  So we'll save that for later.
>>>
>>> If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this.
>>>
>>> Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs.
>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three>
>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three
>>>
>>> Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?
>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html>
>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>"Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?"
>>
>>Hi again: The only Power Management Option I see regarding the Network Adapter is found at: LAN-->Properties-->General-->>Configure.
>>
>>There is a Netwotk Adapter  Power Management option box there  to allow the  computer to turn the device off to save power.
>>
>>
>> It's unchecked on both PC's. In other word: Power Management for the Network adapter is disabled. I disabled it after the problem first occured, but it didnt resolve it.
>>
>>Under CONFIGURE for the Network Adpater--at the General tab--I get the following:
>>
>>
>>"This device is working properly.
>>If you are having problems with this device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."
>>
>>The disconnects generally happen when I'm not using the PC,  though I always leave the connection on. When I attempt to use the PC in the late afternoons- after not using it for a few hours, I often  see that yellow exclamation sign with the "Limited or no Connectivity" at the connection icon in the sys tray. The other PC remains with normal connection.
>>
>>We've had this LAN working properly since late July. The problems first began on September 18.
>>
>>I can try and verify if the other PC is still connected when I unplug the modem. I can't see how it could be since it's the modem which allows her to connect to the interent.
>>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>" Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs."
>>
>>I think so, but it's an external network adapter. I believe it's a Linksys Adapter that she uses for the LAN in question.. I could try swapping ports on the Router, if she's willing ot allow me, but swapping the cables would be a bit tricky since her cable is only a few feet long and mine is between 50-60- ft. I'd have to purchase a new cable wire to try that.
>>
>>Chuck wrote:
>>
>>"If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this."
>>                                                                                                                    
>>
>>I wish there was an easier way to do this, as this annoys the other user on the LAN, but I haven't found one...
>>
>>I assume she loses her connection as well--when I unplug the Modem and Router-- since those are what she uses to connect as well. But I'll try to verify this .   
>>
>>If you don't mind,  I have another piece of info which may or may not be relevant to the problem here:
>>
>>I also noticed the following:
>>
>>Control Panel-->Network Connections-->
>>I click on the  LAN being used:
>>
>>Properties-->Advanced-->
>>
>>Brings me to the pane about the Windows Firewall/ICS.
>>
>>Midway down that pane:
>>
>>"Internet Connection Sharing"
>>
>>Both boxes about allowing other nework users to connect and/or control  are checked in.
>>
>>However, when I click on SETTINGS on that Internet Connection Sharing portion of that advanced panel. I see:
>>
>> I see : Services
>>
>>"Select the services running on your computer that Internet users can access"
>>
>>
>>Below that panel is a vertical array of eight unchecked boxes including:
>>
>> DHCP[67],  DHCP[68],   DNS,   FTP Server,    UPnP[TCP], UPnP[UDP]...etc...
>>
>>1) Am I corect in asuming that Internet users there means users on that LAN?
>>
>>2) Should any of those uncheked boxes be checked in?
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>-Eli
>
> Eli,
>
> When you ran the Network Setup Wizard, what did you select?  You should select
> This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
> through a residential gateway.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient
>
> But that shouldn't leave you with any ICS options.  If this computer connects to
> the router, and isn't an ICS server, these options shouldn't be available.  Did
> you maybe select
> This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other computers on my
> network connect to the Internet through this computer.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost
>
> I'm not sure that will fix the problem, but start there.  I have no idea what
> ICS settings you might have tried, and without knowing, I'm not sure how useful
> I can be here.  So start by rerunning the NSW, as above.
>
> Now when you need to swap cables and router ports, and the cables aren't equal,
> then that won't be an easy step.  But do the best that you can.  You do see
> where we're going with the test, right?  If you're thinking that the problem has
> to be in the computer, simply because the other computer isn't having a problem,
> then you have to verify that.  And that means that you have to test the cables
> and router ports too.
>
> If the problem is with the computer, then you shouldn't touch the modem.  And
> the only thing that you should touch on the router is the cable from your
> computer to the router.  You shouldn't disturb the other computer.  Period.
>
> So have you tried JUST disconnecting the Ethernet cable from your computer, when
> this happens?  Test one thing at a time.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:19:27 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:

>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:adgjh2p6mflq1t4ovkk53272j2fl1feajj@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:52:47 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:otajh25mhi34o7rr73pslonk39ogq8qaus@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:07 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello:
>>>>>
>>>>>I posted about this several days ago, but it seems the thread got lost.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kindly excuse the repetition.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had followed the troubleshooting steps on that Chicago Tech site as recommened to me when I first posted here:
>>>>>www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/noconnectivity.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>. [I'll  summarize the steps taken below]
>>>>>
>>>>>=================================
>>>>>
>>>>>I use a LAN connection which consists of two PCs each connected to a Linksys BEFSR 41 Router.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - 
>>>>>
>>>>>Help and Support-->Tools-->My Computer Info-->Hardware shows the driver for this to have been  installed  last December and to be supported.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      " Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
>>>>>      Driver: e1000325.sys
>>>>>      Friday, December 23, 2005
>>>>>      Supported "
>>>>>     
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I get frequent--almost daily--disconnects of my Verizon DSL connection with a "Limited or no Connectivity" reading appended to a yellow exclamation point on the system tray icon. 
>>>>>
>>>>>This happens only on my own PC and never on the other PC on the same LAN.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can restore the connection only by  unplugging both the modem and router for about 30 sec and replugging them
>>>>>
>>>>>When this happen,s there generally are DHCP warnings in my Event Viewer  with 1003 and 1007  event ID's. The 1007 Event ID's read in part:
>>>>>
>>>>>===============================
>>>>>   "Your computer has automatically configured the IP address for the Network Card with network address    0008742516DF.  The IP address being used is 169.254.245.117.  "
>>>>>
>>>>>   "Explanation :
>>>>>
>>>>>   The DHCP Client service on your computer did not receive a response from the DHCP server to the DHCP Discover    message within the time limit; therefore your computer's IP address was assumed to be invalid, and the DHCP Client    service generated another IP address."
>>>>>===============================
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                                                     
>>>>>
>>>>>That ISP beginning with 169.x.x.x  yields a 'Limited or no Connectivity" connection. At this point I need to unplug modem and router and replug them as described above.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Network Diagnostic Scan" run at Help and Support-->Tools----Network Diagnostics generally show PASSED on all parameters.  They seem quite detailed. There is an occasional ping failure in these results, but it inevitably resolves when I rerun the same Network Diagnostic scan a bit later.
>>>>>
>>>>>I looked into a possible WinSocket registry corruption, but the data I gathered from advanced system info at Help and Support--->Detailed System Info [Msinfo32.exe]-->System Summary-->Components--Network-->Protocol seemed to rule that out as described in an MS KB article on Dx a WinSock registry corruption. Futhermore, the Error readings are completely diferent than depicted there for a winsock registry corruption.
>>>>>
>>>>>My Windows XP Firewall is turned OFF , but the Windows Firewall/ICS Service is on Automatic startup type as recently  recommned on this newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>>So I have no idea as to why I'm getting those "Limited or no Connectivity" disconnects only on my own PC and not on the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>I use Zone Alarm Security Suite for both AntiVirus and Firewall functions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any further suggstions on resolving this connectivity issue?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance:
>>>>>
>>>>>-Eli
>>>>>
>>>>>===========
>>>>>
>>>>>Windows XP Professional Edition SP2
>>>>>
>>>>>Zone Alarm Security Suite 6.1.744.001
>>>>>
>>>>>The Network Card on my PC is: 
>>>>>Model: Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eli,
>>>>
>>>> OK, so we will continue here.
>>>>
>>>> A periodic disconnection, repaired by physically disconnecting (ONLY?) the modem
>>>> and router, does not sound like an LSP / Winsock problem.  But with all due
>>>> respect to Microsoft, the native netsh command is not the only way to fix such a
>>>> problem, and their advice isn't always complete.  So we'll save that for later.
>>>>
>>>> If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>>>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>>>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this.
>>>>
>>>> Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>>>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs.
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Three
>>>>
>>>> Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>>>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>>>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/does-your-computer-lose-network.html
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>"Now I reread your previous post, and it confused me.  Are you enabling, or
>>>> disabling, power management on the Ethernet card?  Does the disconnection happen
>>>> when the computer is busy, or when it's idle?"
>>>
>>>Hi again: The only Power Management Option I see regarding the Network Adapter is found at: LAN-->Properties-->General-->>Configure.
>>>
>>>There is a Netwotk Adapter  Power Management option box there  to allow the  computer to turn the device off to save power.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's unchecked on both PC's. In other word: Power Management for the Network adapter is disabled. I disabled it after the problem first occured, but it didnt resolve it.
>>>
>>>Under CONFIGURE for the Network Adpater--at the General tab--I get the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>"This device is working properly.
>>>If you are having problems with this device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."
>>>
>>>The disconnects generally happen when I'm not using the PC,  though I always leave the connection on. When I attempt to use the PC in the late afternoons- after not using it for a few hours, I often  see that yellow exclamation sign with the "Limited or no Connectivity" at the connection icon in the sys tray. The other PC remains with normal connection.
>>>
>>>We've had this LAN working properly since late July. The problems first began on September 18.
>>>
>>>I can try and verify if the other PC is still connected when I unplug the modem. I can't see how it could be since it's the modem which allows her to connect to the interent.
>>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>" Does the other computer connect by Ethernet?  If so, try swapping router ports
>>>> and cables between the 2 computers.  Then wait until the problem reoccurs."
>>>
>>>I think so, but it's an external network adapter. I believe it's a Linksys Adapter that she uses for the LAN in question.. I could try swapping ports on the Router, if she's willing ot allow me, but swapping the cables would be a bit tricky since her cable is only a few feet long and mine is between 50-60- ft. I'd have to purchase a new cable wire to try that.
>>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>"If you have another computer, and it's NEVER (?) experiencing this problem, I'm
>>>> not sure that you should have to disconnect the modem, at all.  Please verify
>>>> that the other computer loses connectivity when you do this."
>>>                                                                                                                    
>>>
>>>I wish there was an easier way to do this, as this annoys the other user on the LAN, but I haven't found one...
>>>
>>>I assume she loses her connection as well--when I unplug the Modem and Router-- since those are what she uses to connect as well. But I'll try to verify this .   
>>>
>>>If you don't mind,  I have another piece of info which may or may not be relevant to the problem here:
>>>
>>>I also noticed the following:
>>>
>>>Control Panel-->Network Connections-->
>>>I click on the  LAN being used:
>>>
>>>Properties-->Advanced-->
>>>
>>>Brings me to the pane about the Windows Firewall/ICS.
>>>
>>>Midway down that pane:
>>>
>>>"Internet Connection Sharing"
>>>
>>>Both boxes about allowing other nework users to connect and/or control  are checked in.
>>>
>>>However, when I click on SETTINGS on that Internet Connection Sharing portion of that advanced panel. I see:
>>>
>>> I see : Services
>>>
>>>"Select the services running on your computer that Internet users can access"
>>>
>>>
>>>Below that panel is a vertical array of eight unchecked boxes including:
>>>
>>> DHCP[67],  DHCP[68],   DNS,   FTP Server,    UPnP[TCP], UPnP[UDP]...etc...
>>>
>>>1) Am I corect in asuming that Internet users there means users on that LAN?
>>>
>>>2) Should any of those uncheked boxes be checked in?
>>>
>>>Thanks again.
>>>
>>>-Eli
>>
>> Eli,
>>
>> When you ran the Network Setup Wizard, what did you select?  You should select
>> This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
>> through a residential gateway.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient
>>
>> But that shouldn't leave you with any ICS options.  If this computer connects to
>> the router, and isn't an ICS server, these options shouldn't be available.  Did
>> you maybe select
>> This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other computers on my
>> network connect to the Internet through this computer.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost
>>
>> I'm not sure that will fix the problem, but start there.  I have no idea what
>> ICS settings you might have tried, and without knowing, I'm not sure how useful
>> I can be here.  So start by rerunning the NSW, as above.
>>
>> Now when you need to swap cables and router ports, and the cables aren't equal,
>> then that won't be an easy step.  But do the best that you can.  You do see
>> where we're going with the test, right?  If you're thinking that the problem has
>> to be in the computer, simply because the other computer isn't having a problem,
>> then you have to verify that.  And that means that you have to test the cables
>> and router ports too.
>>
>> If the problem is with the computer, then you shouldn't touch the modem.  And
>> the only thing that you should touch on the router is the cable from your
>> computer to the router.  You shouldn't disturb the other computer.  Period.
>>
>> So have you tried JUST disconnecting the Ethernet cable from your computer, when
>> this happens?  Test one thing at a time.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>
>When you ran the Network Setup Wizard, what did you select?  You should select
>> This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
>> through a residential gateway.
>
>Hi again Chuck:
>
>The original setup of the LAN was done entirely by the user of the other PC on that LAN in July. Both the Modem and Router are in her room. It's likely she wouldn't recall the settings used in that setup operation. I can try and ask....
>
>I know that the intention of the setup was simply so we could both use the Verizon DSL as separate independent PC's.the arrangement worked flawlessly till last week. I can't think of anything that was altered on my end here... My PC is connected via a long cable to the Linksys Router. Hers is likewise plugged into that same Router. I did try using another port on the Router last week, but that didn't resolve the problem. But we haven't yet tried reversing ports on the router. I assume that by "ports" you mean the outlet into which the cable is plugged into?
>
>Chuck wrote:
>
>"So have you tried JUST disconnecting the Ethernet cable from your computer, when
>> this happens?  Test one thing at a time"
>
>This would be the easiest of your suggestions to attempt. Next time I get disconnected, I'll simply disable the LAN connection from my PC, unplug the ethernet cable leading to the Router from its outlet on my PC, leave it unplugged about 30 sec,  reinsert it. Then attempt to reeable the connection?
>
>I'll report back here as to what happened.
>
>Is that what you had in mind?
>
>Thanks for your patience:
>
>-Eli

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:43:53 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:

>[UPDATE on Issue]
>
>Chuck had written:
>
>"So have you tried JUST disconnecting the Ethernet cable from your computer, when
>>> this happens?  Test one thing at a time"
>==================
>
>YES!!!!!
>
>This happened just a few minutes ago. I got that "Limited or no Connectivity" yellow exclamation point on my LAN icon in the system tray after rebooting my PC.
>
>I did exactly as you wrote above. I merely disconnected the Ethernet cable from my PC for ~30 seconds,  then simply reinserted it, and I instantly got the connection back ....but with a new ISP Number within that LAN range.
>
>As you had suggested, there was no need to unplug the modem and router to achieve this.
>
>What would be my next step in trying to resolve this?
>
>-Eli

"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:nvslh2594dvlg37uuojt2dcph13qk8e4hd@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:43:53 -0400, "eli" <nob***@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>[UPDATE on Issue]
>>
>>Chuck had written:
>>
>>"So have you tried JUST disconnecting the Ethernet cable from your computer, when
>>>> this happens?  Test one thing at a time"
>>==================
>>
>>YES!!!!!
>>
>>This happened just a few minutes ago. I got that "Limited or no Connectivity" yellow exclamation point on my LAN icon in the system tray after rebooting my PC.
>>
>>I did exactly as you wrote above. I merely disconnected the Ethernet cable from my PC for ~30 seconds,  then simply reinserted it, and I instantly got the connection back ....but with a new ISP Number within that LAN range.
>>
>>As you had suggested, there was no need to unplug the modem and router to achieve this.
>>
>>What would be my next step in trying to resolve this?
>>
>>-Eli
>
> <SNIP>
>
> OK, that's a good start.  If a simple cable disconnect is helpful, it's likely
> that the problem is in either the network card, the cable, or the router.  And
> you're certain that nothing is happening to the other computer?
>
> The next step is to swap router ports with the other computer.  Do a complete
> swap, specifically connect the other computers cable to your router port, and
> your computer cable to the other router port.  Then see if the problem repeats
> itself. 
>
> While you're waiting for the problem to repeat, go to the store, and buy a
> second cable.  Whether or not the problem is in the router or the network card,
> having a spare cable is never a bad idea.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
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