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self ping failsBadcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer (IP) Background: Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". Have run network wizard several times. Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. Any suggestions gratefully received. Mike Mike - 127.0.0.1 is "bad computer" loopback address and indicates TCP/IP ok.
You do not indicate whether or not "bad computer" functions ok within the network or accessing the internet.. If "A" (bad computer) OK before use of "B" (Norton's) - I would suspect "B". Show quoteHide quote "Mike_in_yorkshire" <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1EACD171-B5D6-4945-BDC8-FD1AABE76B3B@microsoft.com... > XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > > Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network > ("goodcomputers") > Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping > Badcomputer > (IP) > > > Background: > > Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > > Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither > IE > nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > > Have run network wizard several times. > > Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > > Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > > Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > > Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Mike > Dear AJR
Thanks for the response, but I *do* 'indicate whether or not "bad computer" functions ok within the network or accessing the internet' (see below) it doesn't do either any more. I suspect you are right and Norton is to blame for trashing my friend's computer. Unfortunately, he is far from home and has no discs with him and a rebuild is out of the question. I think he is probably stuck without a connection until he returns to the USA. I am advising him not to re-install Norton. Best regards Mike Show quoteHide quote "AJR" wrote: > Mike - 127.0.0.1 is "bad computer" loopback address and indicates TCP/IP ok. > You do not indicate whether or not "bad computer" functions ok within the > network or accessing the internet.. > If "A" (bad computer) OK before use of "B" (Norton's) - I would suspect "B". > > "Mike_in_yorkshire" <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:1EACD171-B5D6-4945-BDC8-FD1AABE76B3B@microsoft.com... > > XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > > > > Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > > Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > > Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > > Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network > > ("goodcomputers") > > Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping > > Badcomputer > > (IP) > > > > > > Background: > > > > Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > > were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > > > > Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > > neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > > plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > > hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither > > IE > > nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > > > > Have run network wizard several times. > > > > Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > > > > Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > > > > Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > > > > Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > Mike > > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: Mike,> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >(IP) > > >Background: > >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >Have run network wizard several times. > >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >Mike Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from experience. ;( Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock corruption though. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Dear Chuck
Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have exactly the same behaviour. Best regards Mike For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] Provider ID: {E70F1AA0-AB8B-11CF-8CA3-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1001 Version: 2 Address Family: 2 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 16 Socket Type: 1 Protocol: 6 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] Provider ID: {E70F1AA0-AB8B-11CF-8CA3-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1002 Version: 2 Address Family: 2 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 16 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: 17 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] Provider ID: {E70F1AA0-AB8B-11CF-8CA3-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1003 Version: 2 Address Family: 2 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 16 Socket Type: 3 Protocol: 0 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: RSVP UDP Service Provider Provider ID: {9D60A9E0-337A-11D0-BD88-0000C082E69A} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\rsvpsp.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1004 Version: 6 Address Family: 2 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 16 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: 17 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: RSVP TCP Service Provider Provider ID: {9D60A9E0-337A-11D0-BD88-0000C082E69A} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\rsvpsp.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1005 Version: 6 Address Family: 2 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 16 Socket Type: 1 Protocol: 6 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD nwlnkipx [IPX] Provider ID: {11058240-BE47-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1012 Version: 2 Address Family: 6 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 14 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: 1000 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD nwlnkspx [SPX] Provider ID: {11058241-BE47-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1013 Version: 2 Address Family: 6 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 14 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: 1256 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD nwlnkspx [SPX] [Pseudo Stream] Provider ID: {11058241-BE47-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1014 Version: 2 Address Family: 6 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 14 Socket Type: 1 Protocol: 1256 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD nwlnkspx [SPX II] Provider ID: {11058241-BE47-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1015 Version: 2 Address Family: 6 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 14 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: 1257 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD nwlnkspx [SPX II] [Pseudo Stream] Provider ID: {11058241-BE47-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1016 Version: 2 Address Family: 6 Max Address Length: 16 Min Address Length: 14 Socket Type: 1 Protocol: 1257 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NwlnkNb] SEQPACKET 3 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1017 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: -3 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NwlnkNb] DATAGRAM 3 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1018 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: -3 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3BBF674C-1113-41D3-B7DF-E12A5AB9EF53}] SEQPACKET 0 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1019 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: -2147483648 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3BBF674C-1113-41D3-B7DF-E12A5AB9EF53}] DATAGRAM 0 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1020 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: -2147483648 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FB458613-4778-4C16-92F4-0450C437C848}] SEQPACKET 1 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1021 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: -1 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FB458613-4778-4C16-92F4-0450C437C848}] DATAGRAM 1 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1022 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: -1 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{74046427-157B-460E-8CF1-35C9520B9896}] SEQPACKET 2 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1023 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 5 Protocol: -2 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Winsock Catalog Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Entry Type: Base Service Provider Description: MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{74046427-157B-460E-8CF1-35C9520B9896}] DATAGRAM 2 Provider ID: {8D5F1830-C273-11CF-95C8-00805F48A192} Provider Path: %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll Catalog Entry ID: 1024 Version: 2 Address Family: 17 Max Address Length: 20 Min Address Length: 20 Socket Type: 2 Protocol: -2 Protocol Chain Length: 1 Name Space Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Description: Tcpip Provider ID: {22059D40-7E9E-11CF-AE5A-00AA00A7112B} Name Space: 12 Active: 1 Version: 0 Name Space Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Description: NTDS Provider ID: {3B2637EE-E580-11CF-A555-00C04FD8D4AC} Name Space: 32 Active: 1 Version: 0 Name Space Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Description: Network Location Awareness (NLA) Namespace Provider ID: {6642243A-3BA8-4AA6-BAA5-2E0BD71FDD83} Name Space: 15 Active: 1 Version: 0 Name Space Provider Entry ------------------------------------------------------ Description: NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol Provider ID: {E02DAAF0-7E9F-11CF-AE5A-00AA00A7112B} Name Space: 1 Active: 1 Version: 1 Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > > > >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >(IP) > > > > > >Background: > > > >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > > > >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > > > >Have run network wizard several times. > > > >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > > > >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > > > >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > > > >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > > > >Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > >Mike > > Mike, > > Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > experience. ;( > > Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > > Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > corruption though. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Chuck" wrote: <SNIP Winsock enumeration>> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: >> > >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >> >(IP) >> > >> > >> >Background: >> > >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. >> > >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". >> > >> >Have run network wizard several times. >> > >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. >> > >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. >> > >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. >> > >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. >> > >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. >> > >> >Mike >> >> Mike, >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from >> experience. ;( >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock >> corruption though. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html >Dear Chuck > >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have >exactly the same behaviour. > >Best regards > >Mike > >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: Mike, What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at another symptom will tell us something. And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Dear Chuck
you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate with the outside world. As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved matters in any way. I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them helped. I'm completely mystified. Regards Mike Show quoteHide quote > And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html "Chuck" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >"Chuck" wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > >> > > >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >> >(IP) > >> > > >> > > >> >Background: > >> > > >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >> > > >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >> > > >> >Have run network wizard several times. > >> > > >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >> > > >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >> > > >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >> > > >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >> > > >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >> > > >> >Mike > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > >> experience. ;( > >> > >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > >> > >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > >> corruption though. > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > > >Dear Chuck > > > >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all > >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have > >exactly the same behaviour. > > > >Best regards > > > >Mike > > > >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: > > <SNIP Winsock enumeration> > > Mike, > > What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at > another symptom will tell us something. > > And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > > And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? Mike,>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >"Chuck" wrote: > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: >> >> > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >> >> >(IP) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Background: >> >> > >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. >> >> > >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". >> >> > >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. >> >> > >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. >> >> > >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. >> >> > >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. >> >> > >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. >> >> > >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. >> >> > >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from >> >> experience. ;( >> >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock >> >> corruption though. >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html >> >> >Dear Chuck >> > >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have >> >exactly the same behaviour. >> > >> >Best regards >> > >> >Mike >> > >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> >> >> Mike, >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at >> another symptom will tell us something. >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? >Dear Chuck > >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate >with the outside world. > >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved >matters in any way. > >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them >helped. I'm completely mystified. > >Regards > >Mike Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. As to your existing problems, let's look at them. Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck
Thanks for the tips I'll take a look and let you know. As for the redundant protocols, I unchecked those (did *not* uninstall them) after trying everything else. (I should explain that this is not my laptop. It belongs to a very good friend of ours here on a visit who normally resides in your neck of the woods, but a bit further south - in San Deigo [don't worry I shan't send him round to your place when he returns] but I don't know the full history of his machine. If all else fails, he'll have to do a system rebuild when he gets home, but he is rather desparate to get internet connectivity back before he leaves us on the next stage of his journey round Europe.) Best regards Mike Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > > > >"Chuck" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > >> >> > > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >> >> >(IP) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Background: > >> >> > > >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >> >> > > >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >> >> > > >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >> >> > > >> >> >Mike > >> >> > >> >> Mike, > >> >> > >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > >> >> experience. ;( > >> >> > >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > >> >> > >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > >> >> corruption though. > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > >> > >> >Dear Chuck > >> > > >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all > >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have > >> >exactly the same behaviour. > >> > > >> >Best regards > >> > > >> >Mike > >> > > >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: > >> > >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at > >> another symptom will tell us something. > >> > >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> > >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? > > >Dear Chuck > > > >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I > >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to > >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any > >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I > >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network > >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate > >with the outside world. > > > >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols > >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved > >matters in any way. > > > >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them > >helped. I'm completely mystified. > > > >Regards > > > >Mike > > Mike, > > Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your > problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? > > The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about > the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content > of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. > Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. > > As to your existing problems, let's look at them. > > Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > MORE ......
Chuck I've followed up the tips you sent. I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and are automatically assigned. Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it using IE or Firefox. Mike Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > > > >"Chuck" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > >> >> > > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >> >> >(IP) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Background: > >> >> > > >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >> >> > > >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >> >> > > >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >> >> > > >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >> >> > > >> >> >Mike > >> >> > >> >> Mike, > >> >> > >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > >> >> experience. ;( > >> >> > >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > >> >> > >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > >> >> corruption though. > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > >> > >> >Dear Chuck > >> > > >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all > >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have > >> >exactly the same behaviour. > >> > > >> >Best regards > >> > > >> >Mike > >> > > >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: > >> > >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at > >> another symptom will tell us something. > >> > >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> > >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? > > >Dear Chuck > > > >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I > >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to > >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any > >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I > >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network > >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate > >with the outside world. > > > >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols > >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved > >matters in any way. > > > >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them > >helped. I'm completely mystified. > > > >Regards > > > >Mike > > Mike, > > Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your > problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? > > The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about > the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content > of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. > Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. > > As to your existing problems, let's look at them. > > Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:48:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Chuck" wrote: OK, Mike, I'm going to keep looking for a solution. What Norton product is> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >> >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >> >> >> >(IP) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Background: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >> >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >> >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >> >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >> >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >> >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from >> >> >> experience. ;( >> >> >> >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and >> >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock >> >> >> corruption though. >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html >> >> >> >> >Dear Chuck >> >> > >> >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all >> >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have >> >> >exactly the same behaviour. >> >> > >> >> >Best regards >> >> > >> >> >Mike >> >> > >> >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: >> >> >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at >> >> another symptom will tell us something. >> >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? >> >> >Dear Chuck >> > >> >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I >> >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to >> >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any >> >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I >> >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network >> >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate >> >with the outside world. >> > >> >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols >> >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved >> >matters in any way. >> > >> >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them >> >helped. I'm completely mystified. >> > >> >Regards >> > >> >Mike >> >> Mike, >> >> Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your >> problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? >> >> The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about >> the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content >> of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. >> Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. >> >> As to your existing problems, let's look at them. >> >> Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html >MORE ...... >Chuck > >I've followed up the tips you sent. > >I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet >site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I >use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. > >My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and >are automatically assigned. > >Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though >this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in >every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it >using IE or Firefox. > >Mike this? Look for antiworm documentation - that's gotten folks in the past. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck
Thanks Norton is v 9.05.15 BTW "desparate" should of course be "desperate" (cf "separate") - I was in a hurry. (I typed all my cmd lines correctly!) I think now, however, he is more resigned than desperate. Anyway, thanks once again for all your efforts. Best regards Mike Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:48:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >"Chuck" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> > > >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >> >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >> >> >> >(IP) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Background: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >> >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >> >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >> >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >> >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >> >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Mike > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mike, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > >> >> >> experience. ;( > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > >> >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > >> >> >> corruption though. > >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > >> >> > >> >> >Dear Chuck > >> >> > > >> >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all > >> >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have > >> >> >exactly the same behaviour. > >> >> > > >> >> >Best regards > >> >> > > >> >> >Mike > >> >> > > >> >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: > >> >> > >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> > >> >> > >> >> Mike, > >> >> > >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at > >> >> another symptom will tell us something. > >> >> > >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> >> > >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? > >> > >> >Dear Chuck > >> > > >> >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I > >> >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to > >> >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any > >> >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I > >> >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network > >> >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate > >> >with the outside world. > >> > > >> >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols > >> >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved > >> >matters in any way. > >> > > >> >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them > >> >helped. I'm completely mystified. > >> > > >> >Regards > >> > > >> >Mike > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your > >> problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? > >> > >> The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about > >> the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content > >> of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. > >> Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. > >> > >> As to your existing problems, let's look at them. > >> > >> Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html > >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> > >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html > > >MORE ...... > >Chuck > > > >I've followed up the tips you sent. > > > >I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet > >site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I > >use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. > > > >My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and > >are automatically assigned. > > > >Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though > >this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in > >every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it > >using IE or Firefox. > > > >Mike > > OK, Mike, I'm going to keep looking for a solution. What Norton product is > this? Look for antiworm documentation - that's gotten folks in the past. > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:41:05 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Chuck" wrote: Mike,> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:48:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> > >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >> >> >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >> >> >> >> >(IP) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Background: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >> >> >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >> >> >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >> >> >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >> >> >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >> >> >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from >> >> >> >> experience. ;( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and >> >> >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock >> >> >> >> corruption though. >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dear Chuck >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all >> >> >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have >> >> >> >exactly the same behaviour. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Best regards >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> > >> >> >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: >> >> >> >> >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at >> >> >> another symptom will tell us something. >> >> >> >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> >> >> >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? >> >> >> >> >Dear Chuck >> >> > >> >> >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I >> >> >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to >> >> >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any >> >> >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I >> >> >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network >> >> >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate >> >> >with the outside world. >> >> > >> >> >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols >> >> >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved >> >> >matters in any way. >> >> > >> >> >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them >> >> >helped. I'm completely mystified. >> >> > >> >> >Regards >> >> > >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your >> >> problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? >> >> >> >> The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about >> >> the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content >> >> of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. >> >> Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. >> >> >> >> As to your existing problems, let's look at them. >> >> >> >> Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html >> >> >MORE ...... >> >Chuck >> > >> >I've followed up the tips you sent. >> > >> >I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet >> >site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I >> >use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. >> > >> >My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and >> >are automatically assigned. >> > >> >Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though >> >this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in >> >every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it >> >using IE or Firefox. >> > >> >Mike >> >> OK, Mike, I'm going to keep looking for a solution. What Norton product is >> this? Look for antiworm documentation - that's gotten folks in the past. >Chuck > >Thanks > >Norton is v 9.05.15 BTW > >"desparate" should of course be "desperate" (cf "separate") - I was in a >hurry. (I typed all my cmd lines correctly!) I think now, however, he is >more resigned than desperate. That's the version number, not the name. There are several Norton products. Some contain an antiworm product, that can cause problems like yours. Now you need to look at the documentation, for antiworm protection, and configure it properly. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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"Chuck" wrote: Chuck> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:41:05 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >"Chuck" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:48:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> >> > > >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire > >> >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") > >> >> >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer > >> >> >> >> >(IP) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Background: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which > >> >> >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or > >> >> >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a > >> >> >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant > >> >> >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE > >> >> >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Mike > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Mike, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from > >> >> >> >> experience. ;( > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and > >> >> >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. > >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock > >> >> >> >> corruption though. > >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> > >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Dear Chuck > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all > >> >> >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have > >> >> >> >exactly the same behaviour. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Best regards > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Mike > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mike, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at > >> >> >> another symptom will tell us something. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? > >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> > >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? > >> >> > >> >> >Dear Chuck > >> >> > > >> >> >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I > >> >> >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to > >> >> >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any > >> >> >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I > >> >> >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network > >> >> >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate > >> >> >with the outside world. > >> >> > > >> >> >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols > >> >> >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved > >> >> >matters in any way. > >> >> > > >> >> >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them > >> >> >helped. I'm completely mystified. > >> >> > > >> >> >Regards > >> >> > > >> >> >Mike > >> >> > >> >> Mike, > >> >> > >> >> Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your > >> >> problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? > >> >> > >> >> The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about > >> >> the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content > >> >> of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. > >> >> Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. > >> >> > >> >> As to your existing problems, let's look at them. > >> >> > >> >> Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html > >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> > >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html > >> > >> >MORE ...... > >> >Chuck > >> > > >> >I've followed up the tips you sent. > >> > > >> >I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet > >> >site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I > >> >use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. > >> > > >> >My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and > >> >are automatically assigned. > >> > > >> >Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though > >> >this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in > >> >every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it > >> >using IE or Firefox. > >> > > >> >Mike > >> > >> OK, Mike, I'm going to keep looking for a solution. What Norton product is > >> this? Look for antiworm documentation - that's gotten folks in the past. > > >Chuck > > > >Thanks > > > >Norton is v 9.05.15 BTW > > > >"desparate" should of course be "desperate" (cf "separate") - I was in a > >hurry. (I typed all my cmd lines correctly!) I think now, however, he is > >more resigned than desperate. > > Mike, > > That's the version number, not the name. There are several Norton products. > Some contain an antiworm product, that can cause problems like yours. Now you > need to look at the documentation, for antiworm protection, and configure it > properly. > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. > Sorry I mis-understood. The product is simply Norton Anti-Virus 2003. It does have an anti-worm feature (under "email settings") but there are no setttings for this other than on and off. I tried switching off, but this had no effect. In any case, the computer was working fine until recently with the anti-worm feature switched on. Our guest has now left taking "badcomputer" with him, so there is nothing more I can do for him. I am still utterly baffled as to how a computer can ping the entire web and an entire LAN but fail to ping itself or browse anything anywhere - even after every relevant software component has been fixed or renewed. I am more determined than ever that I shall never let Norton anywhere near a computer that I have anything to do with. Thanks again for all your attempts to help. Mike On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 07:36:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire
<Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Mike,> >"Chuck" wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:41:05 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:48:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:54:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:37:02 -0700, Mike_in_yorkshire >> >> >> >> >> <Mikeinyorksh***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >XP laptop ("badcomputer") has the following symptoms: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN'T ping its own IP address >> >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping 127.0.0.1 >> >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping the gateway IP >> >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer CAN ping other computers (IPs) on the network ("goodcomputers") >> >> >> >> >> >Goodcomputers CAN ping each other (IPs) Goodcomputers CAN'T ping Badcomputer >> >> >> >> >> >(IP) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Background: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Badcomputer went wrong after Norton was used to remove "6 Trojans" which >> >> >> >> >> >were all in PCODEC folder and all part of the same problem I suppose. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Behaviour is identical whether connected to my wireless home network or >> >> >> >> >> >neighbour's unsecured wireless network or via an ethernet cable or using a >> >> >> >> >> >plug in wireless card (although I have replaced drivers for all relevant >> >> >> >> >> >hardware). I get an excellent connection in all permutations, but neither IE >> >> >> >> >> >nor Firefox can be persuaded to use the "excellent connection". >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Have run network wizard several times. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Have tried setting IP addresses manually to no avail. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Have run several regfix programmes and not found anything seriously amiss. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Have tried switchig off firewalls to no avail. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Have tried swearing at Badcomputer to no avail. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Any suggestions gratefully received. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Eliminating the obvious first, swearing at the computer won't work. I know from >> >> >> >> >> experience. ;( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Asymmetrical ping would generally be a personal firewall problem - and >> >> >> >> >> "switching off" (which?) firewalls isn't always productive. >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Having happened after you removed malware ("6 Trojans"), I'd bet LSP / Winsock >> >> >> >> >> corruption though. >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dear Chuck >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Thanks very much for the response. Unfortunately though, I have followed all >> >> >> >> >the steps, at the link you kindly provided, to the letter but still have >> >> >> >> >exactly the same behaviour. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Best regards >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >For what it's worth, winsock catalog is: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <SNIP Winsock enumeration> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What is the actual problem? Ping makes a good diagnostic, but maybe looking at >> >> >> >> another symptom will tell us something. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And I see IPX/SPX (NwlnkNb) in the enumeration. Do you use IPX/SPX? >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And did you use the Cerelli registry based fix (Step 8)? >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dear Chuck >> >> >> > >> >> >> >you aked: "What is the actual problem?" Well the real problem is that I >> >> >> >can't connect to the internet using IE or Firefox and I can't connect to >> >> >> >shared resources on my network (although I don't actually need to share any >> >> >> >resources, but I take this as a sign that something is wrong). Actually, I >> >> >> >get an "excellent" connection which ever way I connect and which ever network >> >> >> >I connect to, but the computer refuses to use that connection to communicate >> >> >> >with the outside world. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >As for IPX/SPX, I've unchecked this and all other superfluous protocols >> >> >> >since I last posted (using your blog as a guide) but this has not improved >> >> >> >matters in any way. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I did try step 8 (and all the other steps you recommended) but none of them >> >> >> >helped. I'm completely mystified. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Regards >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> Did you uncheck IPX/SPX? Or actually un install it? Before, or after, your >> >> >> problems started? Before, or after, you ran the LSP / Winsock repairs? >> >> >> >> >> >> The thing about LSP / Winsock problems is that we are constantly learning about >> >> >> the problem. I'm currently looking for a way to actually translate the content >> >> >> of the enumeration (such as what you provided) into an actual diagnosis. >> >> >> Something more than "there's IPX / SPX - get rid of that"!. >> >> >> >> >> >> As to your existing problems, let's look at them. >> >> >> >> >> >> Have you looked at DNS and MTU, for the Internet symptoms? >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/05/identifying-dns-problem-in-your.html >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/internet-connectivity-problems-caused.html >> >> >> >> >MORE ...... >> >> >Chuck >> >> > >> >> >I've followed up the tips you sent. >> >> > >> >> >I'm pretty certain this is not an MTU problem: I can't browse *any* internet >> >> >site, and this behaviour is the same regardless of which wireless adapator I >> >> >use or even if I use a LAN cable connection. >> >> > >> >> >My DNS settings are identical on badcomputer and all the goodcomputers and >> >> >are automatically assigned. >> >> > >> >> >Interestingly, I can ping 66.94.230.33 and I can ping www.yahoo.com - though >> >> >this resolves to 209.73.186.238 which I can also ping - and get replies in >> >> >every case. So I am somehow connected to the web, I just can't browse it >> >> >using IE or Firefox. >> >> > >> >> >Mike >> >> >> >> OK, Mike, I'm going to keep looking for a solution. What Norton product is >> >> this? Look for antiworm documentation - that's gotten folks in the past. >> >> >Chuck >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> >Norton is v 9.05.15 BTW >> > >> >"desparate" should of course be "desperate" (cf "separate") - I was in a >> >hurry. (I typed all my cmd lines correctly!) I think now, however, he is >> >more resigned than desperate. >> >> Mike, >> >> That's the version number, not the name. There are several Norton products. >> Some contain an antiworm product, that can cause problems like yours. Now you >> need to look at the documentation, for antiworm protection, and configure it >> properly. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. >> > > >Chuck > >Sorry I mis-understood. The product is simply Norton Anti-Virus 2003. It >does have an anti-worm feature (under "email settings") but there are no >setttings for this other than on and off. I tried switching off, but this >had no effect. In any case, the computer was working fine until recently >with the anti-worm feature switched on. > >Our guest has now left taking "badcomputer" with him, so there is nothing >more I can do for him. I am still utterly baffled as to how a computer can >ping the entire web and an entire LAN but fail to ping itself or browse >anything anywhere - even after every relevant software component has been >fixed or renewed. I am more determined than ever that I shall never let >Norton anywhere near a computer that I have anything to do with. > >Thanks again for all your attempts to help. > >Mike Don't blame Norton, without knowing the problem. But thanks for the feedback. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. |
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