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Odd domain log on problemi have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not
the exact problem. 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain when they have a network cable attached. if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, then attach the cable and have full access to the network. I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / similar set up not having an issue What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected?
Exact error messages, if you please. -- Show quoteHide quoteRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not > the exact problem. > > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain when > they have a network cable attached. > > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, then > attach the cable and have full access to the network. > > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. > > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / > similar set up not having an issue > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as follows:
logon Message Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer account was not found. Please try again later. If this message continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for assistance. Richard G. Harper wrote: Show quoteHide quote > What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected? > Exact error messages, if you please. > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not > > the exact problem. > > > > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain when > > they have a network cable attached. > > > > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, then > > attach the cable and have full access to the network. > > > > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. > > > > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / > > similar set up not having an issue > > Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain while
they are connected to the network? -- Show quoteHide quoteRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as follows: > > logon Message > > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for assistance. > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected? >> Exact error messages, if you please. >> >> -- >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not >> > the exact problem. >> > >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain when >> > they have a network cable attached. >> > >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, then >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. >> > >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. >> > >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / >> > similar set up not having an issue >> > > Yes we have tried this, the error message re appears immediately after
connecting again. Richard G. Harper wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain while > they are connected to the network? > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as follows: > > > > logon Message > > > > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain > > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer > > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message > > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for assistance. > > > > > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected? > >> Exact error messages, if you please. > >> > >> -- > >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> > >> > >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not > >> > the exact problem. > >> > > >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain when > >> > they have a network cable attached. > >> > > >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, then > >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. > >> > > >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. > >> > > >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / > >> > similar set up not having an issue > >> > > > Are these computers set up to use only the domain DNS controller to resolve
IP addresses? -- Show quoteHide quoteRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159951008.147398.280400@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yes we have tried this, the error message re appears immediately after > connecting again. > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain >> while >> they are connected to the network? >> >> -- >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as follows: >> > >> > logon Message >> > >> > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain >> > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer >> > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message >> > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for assistance. >> > >> > >> > >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected? >> >> Exact error messages, if you please. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not >> >> > the exact problem. >> >> > >> >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain >> >> > when >> >> > they have a network cable attached. >> >> > >> >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, >> >> > then >> >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. >> >> > >> >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. >> >> > >> >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / >> >> > similar set up not having an issue >> >> > >> > > They are indeeed.
Richard G. Harper wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Are these computers set up to use only the domain DNS controller to resolve > IP addresses? > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1159951008.147398.280400@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Yes we have tried this, the error message re appears immediately after > > connecting again. > > > > > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain > >> while > >> they are connected to the network? > >> > >> -- > >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> > >> > >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as follows: > >> > > >> > logon Message > >> > > >> > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain > >> > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer > >> > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message > >> > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for assistance. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable connected? > >> >> Exact error messages, if you please. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > >> >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but not > >> >> > the exact problem. > >> >> > > >> >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the domain > >> >> > when > >> >> > they have a network cable attached. > >> >> > > >> >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log in, > >> >> > then > >> >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. > >> >> > > >> >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. > >> >> > > >> >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / > >> >> > similar set up not having an issue > >> >> > > >> > > > I guess the next thing I'd check would be the event logs on the clients and
servers to see if you can identify what the failure is. The client logs may not yield a lot of clues but matching entries to them in the server logs may tell you what's failing during the logon process. -- Show quoteHide quoteRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1160037947.420934.74020@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > They are indeeed. > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> Are these computers set up to use only the domain DNS controller to >> resolve >> IP addresses? >> >> -- >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1159951008.147398.280400@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > Yes we have tried this, the error message re appears immediately after >> > connecting again. >> > >> > >> > >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> >> Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain >> >> while >> >> they are connected to the network? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as >> >> > follows: >> >> > >> >> > logon Message >> >> > >> >> > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain >> >> > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer >> >> > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message >> >> > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for >> >> > assistance. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: >> >> >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable >> >> >> connected? >> >> >> Exact error messages, if you please. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com >> >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups >> >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. >> >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ >> >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but >> >> >> >not >> >> >> > the exact problem. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the >> >> >> > domain >> >> >> > when >> >> >> > they have a network cable attached. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log >> >> >> > in, >> >> >> > then >> >> >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / >> >> >> > similar set up not having an issue >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > > Have had a development on this.
The logs showed nothing by the way. When users try to log on with the cable in they get the above error. Previously unplugging the cable, entering the password then worked. Now however after the failed log in with cable, you cannot log in for at least 10 attempts with the cable unplugged! Eventually this works, and you can log in and connect the cable and carry on as normal. This is really getting to us now! We can find no good reason whatsoever! Richard G. Harper wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I guess the next thing I'd check would be the event logs on the clients and > servers to see if you can identify what the failure is. The client logs may > not yield a lot of clues but matching entries to them in the server logs may > tell you what's failing during the logon process. > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > > > <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1160037947.420934.74020@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > They are indeeed. > > > > > > > > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> Are these computers set up to use only the domain DNS controller to > >> resolve > >> IP addresses? > >> > >> -- > >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> > >> > >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1159951008.147398.280400@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > Yes we have tried this, the error message re appears immediately after > >> > connecting again. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> >> Have you tried removing and re-adding the two computers to the domain > >> >> while > >> >> they are connected to the network? > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1159517486.594503.218480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> >> > exact message following entry of password and clicking ok as > >> >> > follows: > >> >> > > >> >> > logon Message > >> >> > > >> >> > Windows cannot connect to the domain, either because the domain > >> >> > controller is down or otherwise unavailable, or because the computer > >> >> > account was not found. Please try again later. If this message > >> >> > continues to appear, contact your systems administrator for > >> >> > assistance. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Richard G. Harper wrote: > >> >> >> What exactly happens when they try to log in with the cable > >> >> >> connected? > >> >> >> Exact error messages, if you please. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com > >> >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > >> >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. > >> >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > >> >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1159435295.583768.26950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > >> >> >> >i have found the reverse of this problem elsewhere in groups but > >> >> >> >not > >> >> >> > the exact problem. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 2 users have reported that they are unable to log on to the > >> >> >> > domain > >> >> >> > when > >> >> >> > they have a network cable attached. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > if they unplug, they are able to log in, presumably cached log > >> >> >> > in, > >> >> >> > then > >> >> >> > attach the cable and have full access to the network. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I am very confused by this! any ideas would be wonderful. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > perhaps worth noting that I have 150 other users with the same / > >> >> >> > similar set up not having an issue > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > Frankly, I don't have a clue why this should be happening; and your comment
that when disconnected they have to try to log in at least ten times before it works is a complete stumper. I have never seen that kind of behaviour in any networked or non-networked PC. The only things I can think of to consider would either be to check for infestation with viruses/adware/malware, or to take one box and consider it a "sacrifice" - rebuild it from the ground up and see if it still has problems. Well, maybe one other thought - how many domain controllers do you have? Are they synchronizing correctly? -- Show quoteHide quoteRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rghar***@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm <gdwall***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1160641562.222217.282700@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Have had a development on this. > > The logs showed nothing by the way. > > When users try to log on with the cable in they get the above error. > Previously unplugging the cable, entering the password then worked. > > Now however after the failed log in with cable, you cannot log in for > at least 10 attempts with the cable unplugged! > > Eventually this works, and you can log in and connect the cable and > carry on as normal. > > > This is really getting to us now! We can find no good reason > whatsoever! 
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