"Chuck" wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>
> Stacey,
>
> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> actually surfing the Internet?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>
> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>>
>> Stacey,
>>
>> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> actually surfing the Internet?
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>>
>> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

>Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>DHCP client service is running.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
> >>
> >> Stacey,
> >>
> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> >> actually surfing the Internet?
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
> >>
> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>
> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
> >DHCP client service is running.
>
> Hi Stacey,
>
> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>
> And about providing details about your network.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>
> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
> my questions.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>> >>
>> >> Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> >> actually surfing the Internet?
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>> >>
>> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>>
>> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>> >DHCP client service is running.
>>
>> Hi Stacey,
>>
>> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
>> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>>
>> And about providing details about your network.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>>
>> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
>> my questions.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting

>Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
>and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
>can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
>I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
>problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
>direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
>in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
>So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
>through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
>both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
>to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
>different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
>also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
>perfect, that is why for the three routers.
>My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
>be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
>this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
>enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>> >>
>> >> Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> >> actually surfing the Internet?
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>> >>
>> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>>
>> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>> >DHCP client service is running.
>>
>> Hi Stacey,
>>
>> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
>> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>>
>> And about providing details about your network.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>>
>> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
>> my questions.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>>
>Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
>and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
>can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
>I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
>problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
>direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
>in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
>So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
>through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
>both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
>to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
>different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
>also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
>perfect, that is why for the three routers.
>My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
>be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
>this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
>enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
> >> >>
> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
> >>
> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
> >> >DHCP client service is running.
> >>
> >> Hi Stacey,
> >>
> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
> >>
> >> And about providing details about your network.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
> >>
> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
> >> my questions.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >>
> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
>
> OK, Stacey,
>
> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
> the computers.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Stacey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>> >> >DHCP client service is running.
>> >>
>> >> Hi Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
>> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>> >>
>> >> And about providing details about your network.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>> >>
>> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
>> >> my questions.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >>
>> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
>> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
>> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
>> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
>> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
>> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
>> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
>> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
>> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
>> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
>> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
>> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
>> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
>> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
>> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
>> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
>> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
>> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
>>
>> OK, Stacey,
>>
>> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
>> the computers.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:32:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> >> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
> >> >>
> >> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
> >> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
> >> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
> >> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
> >> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
> >> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
> >> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
> >> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
> >> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
> >> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
> >> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
> >> >> >DHCP client service is running.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Stacey,
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
> >> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
> >> >>
> >> >> And about providing details about your network.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
> >> >>
> >> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
> >> >> my questions.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >>
> >> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
> >> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
> >> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
> >> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
> >> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
> >> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
> >> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
> >> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
> >> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
> >> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
> >> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
> >> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
> >> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
> >> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
> >> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
> >> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
> >> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
> >> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
> >>
> >> OK, Stacey,
> >>
> >> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
> >> the computers.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?
>
> Stacey,
>
> You are behind a NAT router.  The public IP address (of the router) won't be
> included in an ipconfig log.  None of the information in an ipconfig log will be
> useful to a bad guy, without your public IP address.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> OK Chuck here is the IPconfig/all for both computers

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:32:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Stacey,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> >> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>> >> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>> >> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>> >> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>> >> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>> >> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>> >> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>> >> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>> >> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>> >> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>> >> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>> >> >> >DHCP client service is running.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Stacey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
>> >> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And about providing details about your network.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
>> >> >> my questions.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
>> >> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
>> >> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
>> >> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
>> >> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
>> >> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
>> >> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
>> >> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
>> >> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
>> >> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
>> >> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
>> >> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
>> >> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
>> >> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
>> >> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
>> >> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
>> >> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
>> >> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
>> >>
>> >> OK, Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
>> >> the computers.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?
>>
>> Stacey,
>>
>> You are behind a NAT router.  The public IP address (of the router) won't be
>> included in an ipconfig log.  None of the information in an ipconfig log will be
>> useful to a bad guy, without your public IP address.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> OK Chuck here is the IPconfig/all for both computers
>Primary wired Computer
>
>Host Name…………………………Stacey
>Primary DNS Suffix………………..
>Node Type………………………….Hybrid
>IP Routing Enabled…………………No
>Wins Proxy Enabled………………..No
>Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
>Connection Specific DNS Suffix……
>Description………………………….Intel Pro/100 VE Network Connection
>Physical Address……………………00-13-72-D0-00-5C
>DHCP Enabled……………………...No
>IP Address…………………………..192.168.0.95
>Subnet Mask………………………...255.255.255.0
>Default Gateway…………………….192.168.0.1
>DNS Server………………………….4.2.2.2
>                                                             4.2.2.3
>
>
>Second Wireless Computer
>
>Host Name……………………………Stacey
>Primary DNS Suffix………………….
>Node Type……………………………Unknown
>IP Routing Enabled…………………...Yes
>Win Proxy Enabled…………………...Yes
>
>Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
>Media State……………………………Media Disconnect
>Description…………………………….32bit PC 10/100m Ethernet Adapter
>Physical Address………………………00-02-44-AB-04-2C
>
>Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection
>Connection Specific DNS Suffix………
>Description…………………………….Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
>Physical Address………………………00-11-05-9C-D2-CB
>DHCP Enabled………………………...Yes
>Autoconfiguration Enabled……………Yes
>Autoconfiguration IP Address…………169.254.197.110
>Subnet Mask…………………………...255.255.0.0
>Default Gateway……………………….
>
>I hope this tells us something

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:32:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >> >> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >> >> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >> >> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >> >> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> >> >> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
> >> >> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
> >> >> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
> >> >> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
> >> >> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
> >> >> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
> >> >> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
> >> >> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
> >> >> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
> >> >> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
> >> >> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
> >> >> >> >DHCP client service is running.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Stacey,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
> >> >> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And about providing details about your network.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
> >> >> >> my questions.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
> >> >> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
> >> >> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
> >> >> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
> >> >> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
> >> >> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
> >> >> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
> >> >> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
> >> >> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
> >> >> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
> >> >> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
> >> >> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
> >> >> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
> >> >> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
> >> >> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
> >> >> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
> >> >> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
> >> >> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, Stacey,
> >> >>
> >> >> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
> >> >> the computers.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?
> >>
> >> Stacey,
> >>
> >> You are behind a NAT router.  The public IP address (of the router) won't be
> >> included in an ipconfig log.  None of the information in an ipconfig log will be
> >> useful to a bad guy, without your public IP address.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> OK Chuck here is the IPconfig/all for both computers
> >Primary wired Computer
> >
> >Host Name…………………………Stacey
> >Primary DNS Suffix………………..
> >Node Type………………………….Hybrid
> >IP Routing Enabled…………………No
> >Wins Proxy Enabled………………..No
> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix……
> >Description………………………….Intel Pro/100 VE Network Connection
> >Physical Address……………………00-13-72-D0-00-5C
> >DHCP Enabled……………………...No
> >IP Address…………………………..192.168.0.95
> >Subnet Mask………………………...255.255.255.0
> >Default Gateway…………………….192.168.0.1
> >DNS Server………………………….4.2.2.2
> >                                                             4.2.2.3
> >
> >
> >Second Wireless Computer
> >
> >Host Name……………………………Stacey
> >Primary DNS Suffix………………….
> >Node Type……………………………Unknown
> >IP Routing Enabled…………………...Yes
> >Win Proxy Enabled…………………...Yes
> >
> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
> >Media State……………………………Media Disconnect
> >Description…………………………….32bit PC 10/100m Ethernet Adapter
> >Physical Address………………………00-02-44-AB-04-2C
> >
> >Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection
> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix………
> >Description…………………………….Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
> >Physical Address………………………00-11-05-9C-D2-CB
> >DHCP Enabled………………………...Yes
> >Autoconfiguration Enabled……………Yes
> >Autoconfiguration IP Address…………169.254.197.110
> >Subnet Mask…………………………...255.255.0.0
> >Default Gateway……………………….
> >
> >I hope this tells us something
>
> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> changed?
>
> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>
> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>
> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>
> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>
> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:32:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
>> >> >> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
>> >> >> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
>> >> >> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
>> >> >> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Stacey,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
>> >> >> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
>> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
>> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
>> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
>> >> >> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
>> >> >> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
>> >> >> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
>> >> >> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
>> >> >> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
>> >> >> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
>> >> >> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
>> >> >> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
>> >> >> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
>> >> >> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
>> >> >> >> >DHCP client service is running.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Stacey,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
>> >> >> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And about providing details about your network.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
>> >> >> >> my questions.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
>> >> >> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
>> >> >> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
>> >> >> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
>> >> >> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
>> >> >> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
>> >> >> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
>> >> >> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
>> >> >> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
>> >> >> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
>> >> >> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
>> >> >> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
>> >> >> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
>> >> >> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
>> >> >> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
>> >> >> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
>> >> >> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
>> >> >> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OK, Stacey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
>> >> >> the computers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> >> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?
>> >>
>> >> Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> You are behind a NAT router.  The public IP address (of the router) won't be
>> >> included in an ipconfig log.  None of the information in an ipconfig log will be
>> >> useful to a bad guy, without your public IP address.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> >> OK Chuck here is the IPconfig/all for both computers
>> >Primary wired Computer
>> >
>> >Host Name…………………………Stacey
>> >Primary DNS Suffix………………..
>> >Node Type………………………….Hybrid
>> >IP Routing Enabled…………………No
>> >Wins Proxy Enabled………………..No
>> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
>> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix……
>> >Description………………………….Intel Pro/100 VE Network Connection
>> >Physical Address……………………00-13-72-D0-00-5C
>> >DHCP Enabled……………………...No
>> >IP Address…………………………..192.168.0.95
>> >Subnet Mask………………………...255.255.255.0
>> >Default Gateway…………………….192.168.0.1
>> >DNS Server………………………….4.2.2.2
>> >                                                             4.2.2.3
>> >
>> >
>> >Second Wireless Computer
>> >
>> >Host Name……………………………Stacey
>> >Primary DNS Suffix………………….
>> >Node Type……………………………Unknown
>> >IP Routing Enabled…………………...Yes
>> >Win Proxy Enabled…………………...Yes
>> >
>> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
>> >Media State……………………………Media Disconnect
>> >Description…………………………….32bit PC 10/100m Ethernet Adapter
>> >Physical Address………………………00-02-44-AB-04-2C
>> >
>> >Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection
>> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix………
>> >Description…………………………….Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
>> >Physical Address………………………00-11-05-9C-D2-CB
>> >DHCP Enabled………………………...Yes
>> >Autoconfiguration Enabled……………Yes
>> >Autoconfiguration IP Address…………169.254.197.110
>> >Subnet Mask…………………………...255.255.0.0
>> >Default Gateway……………………….
>> >
>> >I hope this tells us something
>>
>> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> changed?
>>
>> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>>
>> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>>
>> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>>
>> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>>
>> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:32:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:27:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:30:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desk tops both on xp home, 1 is wired (primary) and 2nd is wireless.
> >> >> >> >> >> >On the wireless I can pick up the network, get on the internet but I can't
> >> >> >> >> >> >see any files that im sharing from the primary. I am also getting a message
> >> >> >> >> >> >"limited or no Condutivity". Can some one help with this also direct me on
> >> >> >> >> >> >how to share fromm computer to computer in the same home?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Are you really getting "limited or no Condutivity" on the laptop, while still
> >> >> >> >> >> actually surfing the Internet?
> >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Let's start by looking at "ipconfig /all" from both computers.
> >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Thanks Chuck for replying, I have had the new Dell for about 3 months and I
> >> >> >> >> >have nothing but problems with this wireless. The router is a Dlink 524, from
> >> >> >> >> >Dell and I could not connect to the internet from the main computer. I was on
> >> >> >> >> >the phone with Dlink Dell and my ISP for a month and a half for hours and
> >> >> >> >> >hours. They would all do their ping test and say it was ok on their end so
> >> >> >> >> >call somebody else. Finally Dlink was able to change some settings and get
> >> >> >> >> >the primary pc up and running but it would disconnect often so they gave me a
> >> >> >> >> >static ip address and it seemed to help, now it only disconnect once and a
> >> >> >> >> >while. So now this is working ok I set up the second pc and was doing some
> >> >> >> >> >sharing once or twice, but now I am getting that error so maybe I have to
> >> >> >> >> >reset it all and start from new with some one that can actaully help. Yes my
> >> >> >> >> >DHCP client service is running.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi Stacey,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> OK, be patient with me and try to identify the scope of the problem.  Please
> >> >> >> >> spend a few minutes, and read my tutorial about solving network problems.
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And about providing details about your network.
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And finally, since I am betting we will converse for a bit, please answer below
> >> >> >> >> my questions.
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Hi Chuck, I would to start off by Saying "Oh My Lord" I Have Been reading
> >> >> >> >and reading and I still haven't broke the ice on what I need to know and I
> >> >> >> >can see it will take a very long time for me to learn a fraction of it.
> >> >> >> >I have picked up a few things and I will try and follow as we go to solve my
> >> >> >> >problems. I do want to say that I dont feel that I was lead in the right
> >> >> >> >direction before when setting up my home network because some things were not
> >> >> >> >in your guide lines to do and also some were in your not to do.
> >> >> >> >So to start over I have 2 computers 1 Dell xp Pro(primary) that is wired
> >> >> >> >through a router and broadband modem and the second is a Dell xp Home and
> >> >> >> >both are desk tops. The second is 20 ft away and will be used for my daughter
> >> >> >> >to access the internet and to share files and printers. I have tried 3
> >> >> >> >different routers and cables thinking it maybe hardware but same problem and
> >> >> >> >also if I disconnect the router and wire direct into modem things work
> >> >> >> >perfect, that is why for the three routers.
> >> >> >> >My opinion, which is only 2 cents because of my lack of knowledge, it has to
> >> >> >> >be in the settings of the computers. Dell, Dlink, and ISP will not even touch
> >> >> >> >this with me they allsay the part is working fine. So I hope I gave you
> >> >> >> >enough to help me in solving this? Thanks Stacey
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> OK, Stacey,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That's a good start.  Now let's look at "ipconfig /all" (see above article) from
> >> >> >> the computers.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> >> OK Chuck I just want to confirm something I read on your site to be sure before I go ahead. I can publish my ipconfig info online without threat of somebody getting into my PC?
> >> >>
> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >>
> >> >> You are behind a NAT router.  The public IP address (of the router) won't be
> >> >> included in an ipconfig log.  None of the information in an ipconfig log will be
> >> >> useful to a bad guy, without your public IP address.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> >> OK Chuck here is the IPconfig/all for both computers
> >> >Primary wired Computer
> >> >
> >> >Host Name…………………………Stacey
> >> >Primary DNS Suffix………………..
> >> >Node Type………………………….Hybrid
> >> >IP Routing Enabled…………………No
> >> >Wins Proxy Enabled………………..No
> >> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
> >> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix……
> >> >Description………………………….Intel Pro/100 VE Network Connection
> >> >Physical Address……………………00-13-72-D0-00-5C
> >> >DHCP Enabled……………………...No
> >> >IP Address…………………………..192.168.0.95
> >> >Subnet Mask………………………...255.255.255.0
> >> >Default Gateway…………………….192.168.0.1
> >> >DNS Server………………………….4.2.2.2
> >> >                                                             4.2.2.3
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Second Wireless Computer
> >> >
> >> >Host Name……………………………Stacey
> >> >Primary DNS Suffix………………….
> >> >Node Type……………………………Unknown
> >> >IP Routing Enabled…………………...Yes
> >> >Win Proxy Enabled…………………...Yes
> >> >
> >> >Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection
> >> >Media State……………………………Media Disconnect
> >> >Description…………………………….32bit PC 10/100m Ethernet Adapter
> >> >Physical Address………………………00-02-44-AB-04-2C
> >> >
> >> >Ethernet Adapter Wireless Network Connection
> >> >Connection Specific DNS Suffix………
> >> >Description…………………………….Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
> >> >Physical Address………………………00-11-05-9C-D2-CB
> >> >DHCP Enabled………………………...Yes
> >> >Autoconfiguration Enabled……………Yes
> >> >Autoconfiguration IP Address…………169.254.197.110
> >> >Subnet Mask…………………………...255.255.0.0
> >> >Default Gateway……………………….
> >> >
> >> >I hope this tells us something
> >>
> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> >> changed?
> >>
> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
> >>
> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
> >>
> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
> >>
> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
> >>
> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>
> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524

>> >> >I hope this tells us something
>> >>
>> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> >> changed?
>> >>
>> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>> >>
>> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>> >>
>> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>> >>
>> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>> >>
>> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?

>> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>>
>> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
>> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.

>> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
> >> >>
> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> >> >> changed?
> >> >>
> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
> >> >>
> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
> >> >>
> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>
> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
> >>
> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>
> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
>
> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
> Read the article, and ask questions.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> >> >> changed?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>>
>> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>> >>
>> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
>> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>>
>> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
>>
>> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
>> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
>> Read the article, and ask questions.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> <SNIP>
> >>
> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> >> >> >> changed?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
> >>
> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
> >> >>
> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
> >>
> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
> >>
> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My        email         is          AT         DOT
> >>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
>
> Stacey,
>
> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <SNIP>
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> >> >> >> changed?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
>> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>> >>
>> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
>> >>
>> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
>> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
>> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html

>> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
>>
>> Stacey,
>>
>> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?

>> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:39:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> <SNIP>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> >> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> >> >> >> >> changed?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> >> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> >> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
> >> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
> >> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
> >> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
> >> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
> >> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
> >> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
> >> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
> >> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
>
> >> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
> >>
> >> Stacey,
> >>
> >> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?
>
> >> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.
>
> Are you pinging "4.2.2.2" or "4.2.2.3"?  Both of them are live, as far as I can
> tell, from here.  Can you surf the web, while the DNS server shows no
> connectivity?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> OK I guess I was doing it wrong I pinged the 4.2.2.2 and the TG game up all white and my sample is showing up green 5 out of 11 with 6 out 11 red

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:39:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <SNIP>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> >> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> >> >> >> >> changed?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> >> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> >> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>> >> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>> >> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>> >> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>> >> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>> >> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
>> >> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
>> >> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
>> >> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
>>
>> >> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
>> >>
>> >> Stacey,
>> >>
>> >> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?
>>
>> >> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.
>>
>> Are you pinging "4.2.2.2" or "4.2.2.3"?  Both of them are live, as far as I can
>> tell, from here.  Can you surf the web, while the DNS server shows no
>> connectivity?

>> OK I guess I was doing it wrong I pinged the 4.2.2.2 and the TG game up all white and my sample is showing up green 5 out of 11 with 6 out 11 red

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:13:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:39:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <SNIP>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
> >> >> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
> >> >> >> >> >> changed?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
> >> >> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
> >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
> >> >> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
> >> >> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
> >> >> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
> >> >> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
> >> >> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
> >> >> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
> >> >> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
> >> >> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
> >> >> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
> >>
> >> >> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Stacey,
> >> >>
> >> >> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?
> >>
> >> >> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.
> >>
> >> Are you pinging "4.2.2.2" or "4.2.2.3"?  Both of them are live, as far as I can
> >> tell, from here.  Can you surf the web, while the DNS server shows no
> >> connectivity?
>
> >> OK I guess I was doing it wrong I pinged the 4.2.2.2 and the TG game up all white and my sample is showing up green 5 out of 11 with 6 out 11 red
>
> OK, that's a good start.  Now to try the second computer.  Put PP on that, and
> do exactly the same.  And see when connectivity is lost, and what hop in the PP
> display shows red.  Be sure to let PP run for a while, and see if the problem
> comes and goes too.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
> Chuck, the second computer will not even connect now to get ping plotter on it so I tried to repair network connections and it failed could not complete IP address renew.

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:13:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:39:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:09:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:35:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:04:01 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:00:02 -0700, stacey <sta***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> <SNIP>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >I hope this tells us something
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It does, Stacey.  Your computer Stacey is not connecting.  So now we need to
>> >> >> >> >> >> look at your history.  Has it ever connected to the router?  If so, what
>> >> >> >> >> >> changed?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> What Internet service were you getting when you "... can pick up the network,
>> >> >> >> >> >> get on the internet but can't see any files ..."?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Can you connect Stacey to the router with Ethernet?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Describe the physical layout.  Where is the router, and where is Stacey located?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Do a WiFi site survey using NetStumbler (free).
>> >> >> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html>
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/analyse-your-wifi-environment.html
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Is address filtering, or encryption, enabled on the router?  Disable it, as a
>> >> >> >> >> >> test only.  Will Stacey connect then?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> IT did connect to the router before and that is basically what has been going on since day 1 and nothing has channged.
>> >> >> >> >> >Both computers work great on hi speed just hooked to modem but add the
>> >> >> >> >> >router then its a crap shoot if it will work or not.
>> >> >> >> >> >The rooms are back to back and the router is about 20 ft away from staceys.
>> >> >> >> >> >Netstumbler is showing no wireless found.
>> >> >> >> >> >The IPfilter is always on but there are no ip address listed or ports even.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Typically, you don't connect more than one device to a modem.  What make and
>> >> >> >> >> model is the modem?  The router?  Precision matters here.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yeah you are right about only one at a time that is what I meant, each computer seperatly hooked to the modem worked great. Soon as the router gets involved thats when I have trouble. The modem is a Comtrend 301 and the router is a Dlink Dl-524
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> OK, time to get PingPlotter, hook up the router, and ping your ISPs DNS server.
>> >> >> >> Do this from both computers.  Then watch and see where connectivity is lost.
>> >> >> >> Read the article, and ask questions.
>> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html>
>> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/09/diagnosing-network-problems-using.html
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Ok Chuck I have downloaded PingPlotter and started it with a DNS address and I am not sure what I am lookin at but my Timeline Graph is solid red and my trace graph is set at 200 as a warning speed and 500 as a critical speed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Stacey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If it's always red, you have a problem.  When does the computer ever connect?
>> >>
>> >> >> Well Chuck this is on the primary wired computer and it is supposed to be connected all the time.
>> >>
>> >> Are you pinging "4.2.2.2" or "4.2.2.3"?  Both of them are live, as far as I can
>> >> tell, from here.  Can you surf the web, while the DNS server shows no
>> >> connectivity?
>>
>> >> OK I guess I was doing it wrong I pinged the 4.2.2.2 and the TG game up all white and my sample is showing up green 5 out of 11 with 6 out 11 red
>>
>> OK, that's a good start.  Now to try the second computer.  Put PP on that, and
>> do exactly the same.  And see when connectivity is lost, and what hop in the PP
>> display shows red.  Be sure to let PP run for a while, and see if the problem
>> comes and goes too.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>> Chuck, the second computer will not even connect now to get ping plotter on it so I tried to repair network connections and it failed could not complete IP address renew.