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Author
30 Sep 2006 2:39 PM
mercenario nr.7157892
it is impossible to sheare folders.  Also a ping between PCs don't give
results.

I use automatic DHCP.

In the past I used fixed IPs and so the PCs culd share folders and the
printer!

How can I do the same with DHCP?

Thank n advance for your suggestions.

mercenario...

Author
30 Sep 2006 2:45 PM
Malke
mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:

> it is impossible to sheare folders.  Also a ping between PCs don't
> give results.
>
> I use automatic DHCP.
>
> In the past I used fixed IPs and so the PCs culd share folders and the
> printer!
>
> How can I do the same with DHCP?

This has nothing to do with how the computers get their IP's. You
haven't set up the local area network (lan) sharing correctly is all.

This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File &
Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
substitute your correct subnet.

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
matters in your situation.

Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder.

If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
30 Sep 2006 3:11 PM
mercenario nr.7157892
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"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:
>
> > it is impossible to sheare folders.  Also a ping between PCs don't
> > give results.
> >
> > I use automatic DHCP.
> >
> > In the past I used fixed IPs and so the PCs culd share folders and the
> > printer!
> >
> > How can I do the same with DHCP?
>
> This has nothing to do with how the computers get their IP's. You
> haven't set up the local area network (lan) sharing correctly is all.
>
> This is most commonly caused by a misconfigured firewall. Run the
> Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File &
> Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn
> on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party
> firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like
> Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have
> third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area
> Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an
> IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would
> substitute your correct subnet.
>
> If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:
>
> a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
> accounts/passwords on all computers.
>
> b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
> Simple File Sharing enabled.
>
> Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
> that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
> resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it
> matters in your situation.
>
> Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
> home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
> folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
> Shared Documents folder.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network
> troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it
> and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) -
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Many thanks for your explanations!
I try to understand:
1) I can use DHCP
2) I don't have to configure a LMHOSTS file
3) because I have installed NAV 2005 or 2006 with the firewall active, I
must swich off all the WinXP firewalls.
4) because I want to make simple (at the beginning), I wouldn't use the XP
Professional features.

Questions:
Is really necessary restart the Network Setup Wizard on all PCs? It is a
little bit boring! Can I avoid this?

mercenario
Author
30 Sep 2006 3:16 PM
Malke
mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:

> Many thanks for your explanations!
> I try to understand:
> 1) I can use DHCP
Yes.

> 2) I don't have to configure a LMHOSTS file
Correct.

> 3) because I have installed NAV 2005 or 2006 with the firewall active,
> I must swich off all the WinXP firewalls.
Yes and configure the NAV firewall to allow the lan as trusted (if your
NAV program has that option).

> 4) because I want to make simple (at the beginning), I wouldn't use
> the XP Professional features.
Fine.

> Questions:
> Is really necessary restart the Network Setup Wizard on all PCs? It is
> a little bit boring! Can I avoid this?

You can configure File/Printer Sharing and firewalls manually of course.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
30 Sep 2006 4:56 PM
mercenario nr.7157892
Excuse me, I'am really stupid; I hope you are online because I made a
mistake:
I clicked on the Wireless Network Setup Wizard in WinXP Pro and now this PC
is not able to connect to the router. the log file says:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Wireless Network Settings

Print this document and store it in a safe place for future reference.  You
may need these settings to add additional computers and devices to your
network.


Wireless Settings

Network Name (SSID): WLAN-filippo
Network Key (WEP/WPA Key): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Key Provided Automatically (802.1x): 0
Network Authentication Type: open
Data Encryption Type: WEP
Connection Type: ESS
Key Index:


To enable File and Printer Sharing on this computer, run the Network Setup
Wizard.

To set up your Internet connection, follow the instructions from your
Internet Service Provider (ISP).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
I think it means that WEP security is active on the local network drive but
not on the router.
So only this PC cannot connect!

I don't know how I can remove this new configuration!

Can you help me?



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"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:
>
> > Many thanks for your explanations!
> > I try to understand:
> > 1) I can use DHCP
> Yes.
>
> > 2) I don't have to configure a LMHOSTS file
> Correct.
>
> > 3) because I have installed NAV 2005 or 2006 with the firewall active,
> > I must swich off all the WinXP firewalls.
> Yes and configure the NAV firewall to allow the lan as trusted (if your
> NAV program has that option).
>
> > 4) because I want to make simple (at the beginning), I wouldn't use
> > the XP Professional features.
> Fine.
>
> > Questions:
> > Is really necessary restart the Network Setup Wizard on all PCs? It is
> > a little bit boring! Can I avoid this?
>
> You can configure File/Printer Sharing and firewalls manually of course.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
30 Sep 2006 9:21 PM
Malke
mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:

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> Excuse me, I'am really stupid; I hope you are online because I made a
> mistake:
> I clicked on the Wireless Network Setup Wizard in WinXP Pro and now
> this PC is not able to connect to the router. the log file says:
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> Wireless Network Settings
>
> Print this document and store it in a safe place for future reference.
>  You may need these settings to add additional computers and devices
> to your network.
>
>
> Wireless Settings
>
> Network Name (SSID): WLAN-filippo
> Network Key (WEP/WPA Key): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Key Provided Automatically (802.1x): 0
> Network Authentication Type: open
> Data Encryption Type: WEP
> Connection Type: ESS
> Key Index:
>
>
> To enable File and Printer Sharing on this computer, run the Network
> Setup Wizard.
>
> To set up your Internet connection, follow the instructions from your
> Internet Service Provider (ISP).
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> I think it means that WEP security is active on the local network
> drive but not on the router.
> So only this PC cannot connect!
>
> I don't know how I can remove this new configuration!
>
> Can you help me?

Do a System Restore to before you made the mistake.
Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Restore
"Restore my computer to an earlier time".

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
30 Sep 2006 9:30 PM
mercenario nr.7157892
In the meantime I deinstalled the wireless adapter and installed again.

It seams to work now!

thanks.


"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> mercenario nr.7157892 wrote:
>
> > Excuse me, I'am really stupid; I hope you are online because I made a
> > mistake:
> > I clicked on the Wireless Network Setup Wizard in WinXP Pro and now
> > this PC is not able to connect to the router. the log file says:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > ------
> > Wireless Network Settings
> >
> > Print this document and store it in a safe place for future reference.
> >  You may need these settings to add additional computers and devices
> > to your network.
> >
> >
> > Wireless Settings
> >
> > Network Name (SSID): WLAN-filippo
> > Network Key (WEP/WPA Key): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Key Provided Automatically (802.1x): 0
> > Network Authentication Type: open
> > Data Encryption Type: WEP
> > Connection Type: ESS
> > Key Index:
> >
> >
> > To enable File and Printer Sharing on this computer, run the Network
> > Setup Wizard.
> >
> > To set up your Internet connection, follow the instructions from your
> > Internet Service Provider (ISP).
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > ------
> > I think it means that WEP security is active on the local network
> > drive but not on the router.
> > So only this PC cannot connect!
> >
> > I don't know how I can remove this new configuration!
> >
> > Can you help me?
>
> Do a System Restore to before you made the mistake.
> Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Restore
> "Restore my computer to an earlier time".
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
30 Sep 2006 2:46 PM
mercenario nr.7157892
The Network is:

A router linksys in the middel of the star
4 PCs wireless connected: 2 WinXP Prof and 2 WinXP Home

thanks


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"mercenario nr.7157892" <pr***@microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> it is impossible to sheare folders.  Also a ping between PCs don't give
> results.
>
> I use automatic DHCP.
>
> In the past I used fixed IPs and so the PCs culd share folders and the
> printer!
>
> How can I do the same with DHCP?
>
> Thank n advance for your suggestions.
>
> mercenario...
>
>