I have a small peer-to-peer network of three computers. All computers
are XP (SP2).

What settings do I have to adjust (and on which PCs?) so that I can
ping correctly by both IP number and name?

Thanks in anticitpation.

TM

trevormidg***@ntlworld.com wrote:

If you are talking about pinging in terms of the Internet and not the
lan, if you can ping/connect only with IP addresses and not
human-readable names then your DNS is set incorrectly or there is a
problem with the DNS server.

If you are talking about connectivity internally between lan computers,
you need to configure any firewalls to allow the lan IP range as
trusted.

Malke

I'm talking about pinging in terms of the Internet and not the LAN - TM

On 30 Sep 2006 07:53:13 -0700, trevormidg***@ntlworld.com wrote:

Start by looking at 2 possibilities - the NetBT setting, and node type.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html

Or post "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, so we can
diagnose the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

....or post "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer...

Don't mean to  be difficult, but when I run "ipconfig /all", I just get
a black flash of screen, then it's gone! Nothing to see, nothing to
save. What am I doing wrong?

TM

Sorry Chuck, forget this last post re ipconfig! I hadn't read your site
closely enough! I'll get back when I have all the details.

Cheers -


TM

Chuck - sorry for the delay.

These are the ipconfig /all reports from my three computers.

I'm having some difficulty getting Browstat to perform - I suspect
I'm doing something wrong in "Using The Path" because I am
getting the "'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external
command...".

I'll keep working on that, but I thought that at least the ipconfig
outputs might give you some indicator as to my problem.

Cheers -

TM

****************************

Host Computer -



Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BACK-COMPUTER

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-20-00-F1-70

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 86.11.10.148

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 86.11.8.1

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.252.64.22

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.8.100

                                            194.168.4.100

        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 01 October 2006 12:43:00

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 02 October 2006 13:16:22



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) AnyPoint(TM)
Wireless II Network 11Mbps USB Adapter #2

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-05-5F-D9

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1



Client #1 Computer



Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FRONT-COMPUTER2

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) AnyPoint(TM)
Wireless II Network 11Mbps USB Adapter

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-05-51-B5

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.11

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::290:4bff:fe05:51b5%5

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%4

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-0B

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.11%2

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Client #2 Computer



Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tinkerbell

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mshome.net



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100
Integrated Controller

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-8A-C4-F7



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : mshome.net

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : INPROCOMM IPN2220 Wireless
LAN Card

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A4-06-53-B9

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.28

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 26 September 2006 15:52:58

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 03 October 2006 15:52:58

On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:31 -0700, trevormidg***@ntlworld.com wrote:

<SNIP>

Hi Trevor,

OK, a couple interesting items.

Three connections specify 192.168.0.1 as the DNS server (relay).  Depending upon
how the (router?) is setup, that may or may not work well.  For that, we need to
know what servers it's relaying the requests to.  Then one connection uses two
servers directly ("194.168.8.100" / "194.168.4.100").  This discrepancy could
cause a variation.

Also, FRONT-COMPUTER2 has IPV6 ("Teredo Tunneling").  I've known for that to
cause various problems, generally with local connectivity.  It's your choice
whether to keep it.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html

Chuck - Got 'em! Here are the browstat results for my three
computers.

(BTW, I don't have a router as such; straight peer-to-peer with Back
Computer being my gateway to the net.)

All the best, and thanks  -


TM


***********************


Host Computer


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.  Using
\\BACK-COMPUT
ER
        Master browser is running build 2600
    1 backup servers retrieved from master BACK-COMPUTER
        \\BACK-COMPUTER
    There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
    There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{97CCFA9C-6EA0-45C0-82
DA-4C54B936AEEA}
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master browser name is: BACK-COMPUTER
        Master browser is running build 2600
    1 backup servers retrieved from master BACK-COMPUTER
        \\BACK-COMPUTER
    There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{97CCF
A9C-6EA0-45C0-82DA-4C54B936AEEA}
    There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{97CCF
A9C-6EA0-45C0-82DA-4C54B936AEEA}


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.  Using
\\BACK-COMPUT
ER
        Master browser is running build 2600
    1 backup servers retrieved from master BACK-COMPUTER
        \\BACK-COMPUTER
    There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
    There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx


Client #2 Computer

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F447936F-0509-4DC3-89
4A-B50FE411A02D}
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master browser name is: BACK-COMPUTER
Could not connect to registry, error = 53        Unable to determine
build of br
owser master: 53
    \\\\BACK-COMPUTER .  Version:05.01  Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
    1 backup servers retrieved from master BACK-COMPUTER
        \\BACK-COMPUTER
    There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F4479
36F-0509-4DC3-894A-B50FE411A02D}
    There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F4479
36F-0509-4DC3-894A-B50FE411A02D}


Client #3 Computer

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DBADB2BF-E63C-47FC-9F
12-0A52AE98FF59}
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master browser name is: BACK-COMPUTER
Could not connect to registry, error = 53        Unable to determine
build of br
owser master: 53
    \\\\BACK-COMPUTER .  Version:05.01  Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
    1 backup servers retrieved from master BACK-COMPUTER
        \\BACK-COMPUTER
    There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DBADB
2BF-E63C-47FC-9F12-0A52AE98FF59}
    There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DBADB
2BF-E63C-47FC-9F12-0A52AE98FF59}

On 1 Oct 2006 09:39:05 -0700, trevormidg***@ntlworld.com wrote:

Show quoteHide quoteOK, Trevor,

The good news is that all 3 computers show the same thing:
There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip

Now BACK-COMPUTER also shows IPX/SPX ("\Device\NwlnkNb"), which is unnecessary.
This shouldn't affect the ability to ping Internet servers though.  That's going
to be a DNS issue, involving the issues that I mentioned in my previous post.
See my previous post for discussion about gratuitous protocols too.

What is the actual problem - why are you pinging Internet servers?

Hi Chuck - thanks for coming back.

The reason I was pinging Internet servers is that I was finding that I
could neither send nor receive e-mails from either of the client PCs.

POP and SMTP settings were all OK (exactly as on the host machine), but
I was getting "server name you specified cannot be found" whenever
I tried to connect from the clients.

Then, as part of my diagnostic procedure, I found I couldn't ping
websites by name from the client machines.

I solved my "e-mail access from the clients" by pinging the POP and
SMTP servers by name from the host, noting down the IP addresses, and
substituting these for the normal POP and SMTP server details in my
clients' e-mail program.

But that still left me wanting to know a) why I couldn't ping by name
from the clients, and b) how I could correct the setting.

You've made several interesting comments / suggestions, for which
I'm grateful. Could I perhaps ask for a little further clarification?

Re:
1) BACK-COMPUTER also shows IPX/SPX ("\Device\NwlnkNb"), which is
unnecessary

2) Three connections specify 192.168.0.1 as the DNS server (relay).
Depending upon how the (router?) is setup, that may or may not work
well.  For that, we need to know what servers it's relaying the
requests to.

3) ...one connection uses two servers directly ("194.168.8.100" /
"194.168.4.100").  This discrepancy could cause a variation.

4) FRONT-COMPUTER2 has IPV6 ("Teredo Tunneling").  I've known for that
to cause various problems, generally with local connectivity.

.... my question would be, how / where do I address these? Other than
setting 192.168.0.1 as Preferred DNS Servers on all three machines, I
don't think I've had any hand in configuring any of the others.

Thanks for your time and trouble. It is much appreciated, but I'm on
a rather steep learning curve!

All the best -


TM

On 2 Oct 2006 06:42:29 -0700, trevormidg***@ntlworld.com wrote:

Show quoteHide quoteTrevor,

IPX/SPX (aka NwlnkNb) and IPV6 (aka Teredo Tunneling) are network components
that can cause problems with local networking (what you see in My Network Places
/ Network Neighbourhood).  Most small LANs use Server Message Blocks (aka SMBs)
for name resolution.  If some computers have excessive network components like
IPX/SPX or IPV6, and others don't have those components, it's like tourists in a
foreign land that don't speak the language.  SMBs get lost, and name resolution
fails.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html

From looking at the ipconfig logs, it appears that the NAT router (192.168.0.1)
is seen by several computers as the DNS server.  The NAT router, though, has to
get the DNS information from a dedicated DNS server - it only relays DNS
requests.  So your router has to have the addresses of the actual DNS servers,
probably 194.168.8.100 ("cache2.ntli.net" in Luton, UK) / 194.168.4.100
("cache1.ntli.net" somewhere in the UK).

Even if the router does use the same upstream servers, though, it could
introduce variances in the DNS process, so it's best of you setup all computers
the same.  Pick one - just be consistent.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/03/dns-server-settings-on-your-computer.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/03/dns-server-settings-on-your-computer.html

Thanks, Chuck - been away for a couple of days.

Working on it...

All the best -


TM

trevormidg***@ntlworld.com <trevormidg***@ntlworld.com> typed:
Do you have a DHCP server on your network? For example, via a hardware
firewall/gateway/router appliance? If so, make sure it is set up to 'dish
out' the appropriate DNS server IPs to your clients - whatever public DNS
servers your ISP gave you. If for some reason you are using static IPs
configured on each workstation, compare them using ipconfig /all (in a
command prompt - start | run | cmd <enter> ) and make sure they're all using
the same DNS server IPs.

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