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Author
11 Oct 2006 1:19 AM
nwbcat
So I'll try and make this as detailed as possible. My roommates and I are
living in an apartment. All three of us have computers. 1 Dell Laptop, 2 PC
Desktop, and 1 Mac Book Laptop. We apparently have good connection to our
apartment, but only one computer has access to the internet. The others have
limited or no connectivity.

We originally had wireless when the problem first started (its been a month)
and we figured that the cables were just splitting off too much that we
weren't getting enough of a signal. We were using a linksys wireless adapter.
We had our cable company come out and check our connectivity and said it was
good. They even got two of our computers, but not the PC to work, on wireless.
But somehow sporatically, all three computers would work. Sometimes three
days in a row, then 4 days not, etc. you get the idea. So we figured we just
did not have a strong enough connection and/or someone else was ripping off
our internet (which we tried several times to secure). And when we did secure
it we had the same problem.

Now we have been trying ethernet cables to a hub that we had used before
living in this apartment. Now, only 1 computer (the Dell Laptop) has internet
access and the other to have limited or no connectivity. We have been to
several sites looking for solutions, and we tried the help page in a similar
thread. We took down the firewalls, manually and physicall switched cables
several times, and even switched rooms with the modem. When trying to connect
to the internet from the desktop, the message "could not connect to internet
or some resources. This occured because the network did not assign a network
address to the computer". But we have tried several times to create a network
to no avail.

Somehow, and we don't know how, we sometimes all get internet, like i said
before, but it's very sporadic and not reliable. Our cable company said we
have a good reading, but our connection status usually reads low to very low..
. I personally have been trying to fix this/get someone to help for a month.
It is very stressful and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Author
11 Oct 2006 2:51 AM
Chuck
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:19:37 GMT, "nwbcat" <u27749@uwe> wrote:

>So I'll try and make this as detailed as possible. My roommates and I are
>living in an apartment. All three of us have computers. 1 Dell Laptop, 2 PC
>Desktop, and 1 Mac Book Laptop. We apparently have good connection to our
>apartment, but only one computer has access to the internet. The others have
>limited or no connectivity.
>
>We originally had wireless when the problem first started (its been a month)
>and we figured that the cables were just splitting off too much that we
>weren't getting enough of a signal. We were using a linksys wireless adapter.
>We had our cable company come out and check our connectivity and said it was
>good. They even got two of our computers, but not the PC to work, on wireless.
>But somehow sporatically, all three computers would work. Sometimes three
>days in a row, then 4 days not, etc. you get the idea. So we figured we just
>did not have a strong enough connection and/or someone else was ripping off
>our internet (which we tried several times to secure). And when we did secure
>it we had the same problem.
>
>Now we have been trying ethernet cables to a hub that we had used before
>living in this apartment. Now, only 1 computer (the Dell Laptop) has internet
>access and the other to have limited or no connectivity. We have been to
>several sites looking for solutions, and we tried the help page in a similar
>thread. We took down the firewalls, manually and physicall switched cables
>several times, and even switched rooms with the modem. When trying to connect
>to the internet from the desktop, the message "could not connect to internet
>or some resources. This occured because the network did not assign a network
>address to the computer". But we have tried several times to create a network
>to no avail.
>
>Somehow, and we don't know how, we sometimes all get internet, like i said
>before, but it's very sporadic and not reliable. Our cable company said we
>have a good reading, but our connection status usually reads low to very low..
> I personally have been trying to fix this/get someone to help for a month.
>It is very stressful and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

OK, we'll try to help and deal with the stress.  Stress is common with computer
problems, and we've all been thru it.

You have a total of 4 computers, and only one has access to the Internet at a
time?  Is it the same one computer, or does this change?  When any computer does
not have access, does it always have an APIPA address (169.254.x.x)?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html

Is this problem the same with Ethernet and WiFi?  Is it constant?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html

Exactly what device do the computers connect to (or not) directly?  Hub, router,
modem?  Make and model very useful here.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
11 Oct 2006 3:07 AM
nwbcat
>You have a total of 4 computers, and only one has access to the Internet at a
>time?  Is it the same one computer, or does this change?  When any computer does
>not have access, does it always have an APIPA address (169.254.x.x)?
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html

we have a total of 3. sometimes the internet availability changes from
computer to computer. Yes, it does have an APIPA address most of the time

Yes, this problem happens with both. I don't know how to reply to constant.
It happens off and on. But 3/4 of the time, not all of us have internet
access. It is usually just one of us

>Exactly what device do the computers connect to (or not) directly?  Hub, router,
>modem?  Make and model very useful here.
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

We've tried a few things... right now we are connected with a hub and
ethernet cables. The hub is an Asante model FS5005C. It has never had
problems before.

We also have a linksys wireless router that we've tried. Model WRT54G. WPA2 &
WMM. From what I gathered from the modem, its an Ambit U10CO18?


Just a note, we've tried multiple modems
I have a feeling that maybe our network settings aren't right? It says it
could not assign a network address to the computers that aren't working, but
we appear to be connected at 100.00mbps
Author
11 Oct 2006 5:29 AM
Chuck
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:07:45 GMT, "nwbcat" <u27749@uwe> wrote:

>>You have a total of 4 computers, and only one has access to the Internet at a
>>time?  Is it the same one computer, or does this change?  When any computer does
>>not have access, does it always have an APIPA address (169.254.x.x)?
>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html>
>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/limited-or-no-connectivity.html
>
>we have a total of 3. sometimes the internet availability changes from
>computer to computer. Yes, it does have an APIPA address most of the time
>
>>Is this problem the same with Ethernet and WiFi?  Is it constant?
>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html>
>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html
>
>Yes, this problem happens with both. I don't know how to reply to constant.
>It happens off and on. But 3/4 of the time, not all of us have internet
>access. It is usually just one of us
>
>>Exactly what device do the computers connect to (or not) directly?  Hub, router,
>>modem?  Make and model very useful here.
>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html
>
>We've tried a few things... right now we are connected with a hub and
>ethernet cables. The hub is an Asante model FS5005C. It has never had
>problems before.
>
>We also have a linksys wireless router that we've tried. Model WRT54G. WPA2 &
>WMM. From what I gathered from the modem, its an Ambit U10CO18?
>
>
>Just a note, we've tried multiple modems
>I have a feeling that maybe our network settings aren't right? It says it
>could not assign a network address to the computers that aren't working, but
>we appear to be connected at 100.00mbps

Well the first thing we need to do is find out what is breaking, and when it
breaks.  Find a pattern.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html

If you're getting APIPA settings, then I don't think your network settings are
the primary problem - unless the settings are on the WRT54G.  How do you connect
the Asante, the Linksys, and the Ambit?  Please be specific and detailed.  And
try one setup at a time, so I can catch up.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
12 Oct 2006 6:32 AM
nwbcat via WindowsKB.com
>If you're getting APIPA settings, then I don't think your network settings are
>the primary problem - unless the settings are on the WRT54G.  How do you connect
>the Asante, the Linksys, and the Ambit?  Please be specific and detailed.  And
>try one setup at a time, so I can catch up.
>

So we spent some time on it, and it was the connection with the linksys. We
reinstalled the software. We did it before another time, but I think the
problem was that we reconfigured everything and switched to the hub so the
linksys wasn't properly set up. It is fixed now. thank you for your help.

Author
12 Oct 2006 7:05 AM
Chuck
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:32:20 GMT, "nwbcat via WindowsKB.com" <u27749@uwe> wrote:

>>If you're getting APIPA settings, then I don't think your network settings are
>>the primary problem - unless the settings are on the WRT54G.  How do you connect
>>the Asante, the Linksys, and the Ambit?  Please be specific and detailed.  And
>>try one setup at a time, so I can catch up.
>>
>
>So we spent some time on it, and it was the connection with the linksys. We
>reinstalled the software. We did it before another time, but I think the
>problem was that we reconfigured everything and switched to the hub so the
>linksys wasn't properly set up. It is fixed now. thank you for your help.

Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.