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Need help with XP network bridge concepts/implementationI have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the
192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? If my goal is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not really many machines here, it is a small implementation. -jtpr In article <1160577863.660884.84***@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"jtpr" <jtpr***@gmail.com> wrote: The network bridge can't enable access between computers on different>I have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the >192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select >both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet >now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets >work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to >be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? subnets. Its purpose is to combine two physical networks (such as wired and wireless) into one logical network, with one subnet. I've written a web page with details: XP ICS - Network Bridge http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networkbridge.htm >If my goal Doing what you want in a Windows XP workgroup network is possible, but>is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, >what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not >really many machines here, it is a small implementation. complicated, requiring several steps: 1. Enable TCP/IP forwarding on the 2-NIC computer, as described in this Microsoft Knowledge Base article: How to Enable TCP/IP Forwarding in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b315236 2. Assign static IP addresses to both NICs on that computer. 3. Create a persistent route on each of the other computers, specifying the 2-NIC computer as the gateway to the other subnet. For example, if the 2-NIC computer has IP addresses 192.168.1.1 and 10.10.1.1, use these commands: 192.168.1.x computer: route -p add 10.10.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 10.10.1.x computer: route -p add 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 10.10.1.1 4. Assign static IP addresses to all of the computers on both subnets. 5. Create an LMHOSTS on each computer that gives the name-to-IP mapping for each of the computers on the other subnet. You won't be able to see the other subnet in My Network Places. To access a computer on the other subnet, type the other computer's name in the Start > Run box in this format: \\computer >-jtpr Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)-- Best Wishes, Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com "jtpr" <jtpr***@gmail.com> wrote in message Since 192.168.x.x addresses and 10.x.x.x addresses are not routable, your news:1160577863.660884.84430@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the > 192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select > both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet > now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets > work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to > be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? If my goal > is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, > what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not > really many machines here, it is a small implementation. > > -jtpr > scheme is doomed. That is of course in addition to a bridge not being a router. Jim In article <lpeXg.15674$7I1.14***@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, "Jim"
<j.n@nospam.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"jtpr" <jtpr***@gmail.com> wrote in message You're right, Jim, that those addresses aren't routable over the>news:1160577863.660884.84430@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>I have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the >> 192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select >> both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet >> now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets >> work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to >> be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? If my goal >> is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, >> what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not >> really many machines here, it is a small implementation. >> >> -jtpr >> >Since 192.168.x.x addresses and 10.x.x.x addresses are not routable, your >scheme is doomed. That is of course in addition to a bridge not being a >router. >Jim public Internet. However, they are routable on a private network, which I assume is what "jtpr" is asking about. Enabling IP forwarding on the 2-NIC computer will enable it to route traffic between the two subnets. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > In article <lpeXg.15674$7I1.14***@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, "Jim" Steve,> <j.n@nospam.com> wrote: > >"jtpr" <jtpr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:1160577863.660884.84430@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >>I have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the > >> 192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select > >> both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet > >> now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets > >> work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to > >> be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? If my goal > >> is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, > >> what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not > >> really many machines here, it is a small implementation. > >> > >> -jtpr > >> > >Since 192.168.x.x addresses and 10.x.x.x addresses are not routable, your > >scheme is doomed. That is of course in addition to a bridge not being a > >router. > >Jim > > You're right, Jim, that those addresses aren't routable over the > public Internet. > > However, they are routable on a private network, which I assume is > what "jtpr" is asking about. Enabling IP forwarding on the 2-NIC > computer will enable it to route traffic between the two subnets. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thank you for all the info, it is much appreciated. I'll fool around with IP forwarding and see what that buys me... -Jim (jtpr) In article <1160667409.731161.303***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
Show quoteHide quote "jtpr" <jtpr***@gmail.com> wrote: You're welcome, Jim. There's a sample of an LMHOSTS file in>> >>I have a machine with 2 NIC's in it nica and nicb. nica is dhcp on the >> >> 192.168.1.x subnet. nicb is dhcp on the 10.10.1.x subnet. I select >> >> both of them an implement a network bridge. Will systems on one subnet >> >> now be able to see systems on the other? Will sharing between subnets >> >> work? What happens with DHCP?. Or, do both of the segments need to >> >> be on the same IP subnets? If so, then what is the point? If my goal >> >> is to have these two subnets share, but retain the different numbering, >> >> what would be the best/easiest way to accomplish this? There are not >> >> really many machines here, it is a small implementation. >> >> >> >> -jtpr >> >> >> >Since 192.168.x.x addresses and 10.x.x.x addresses are not routable, your >> >scheme is doomed. That is of course in addition to a bridge not being a >> >router. >> >Jim >> >> You're right, Jim, that those addresses aren't routable over the >> public Internet. >> >> However, they are routable on a private network, which I assume is >> what "jtpr" is asking about. Enabling IP forwarding on the 2-NIC >> computer will enable it to route traffic between the two subnets. > >Steve, > >Thank you for all the info, it is much appreciated. I'll fool around >with IP forwarding and see what that buys me... > >-Jim (jtpr) C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc\Lmhosts.sam . You can edit that file with a text editor. Then, save it as just "Lmhosts", with no ".xxx" file type at the end of the name. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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