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12 Oct 2006 2:41 AM
fedup
Hi there, I'm locked in mortal combat with my son's computer..Win XP sp2. At
home, his computer was connected directly to mine via (crossover?) cable.
Worked fine, he connected to the internet through my machine. Delivered him
to university, He's provided with a fast connection into the university
system. When he tried to pug into the system, his comp. kept saying "a cable
is unplugged", which it wasn't. He borrowed another comp. and tested his
physical connection (cable+scket) they were fine, the other comp. went
straight onto the network. We then thought maybe the lan connection was
searching for our home network (despite setting up everything according to
university instructions). After a lot of research, i uninstalled the lan
(from the device manager) and tried a fresh connection...no joy. same
message..The Lan is onboard so couldn't be physically uninstalled...the light
came on intermittently when the cable was plugged in.. and so I figured maybe
he'd damaged the connection when taking cables in and out....Really cheesed
off by now..went and got an ethernet card...BUT when I installed the card
+driver, the computer resurrected the uninstalled onboard Lan too...and now
we're getting "limited or no Connectivity". and or "A network cable is
unplugged"  .SO I went into the BIos and disbled the onboard Lan, configured
the card and  TERRific..all seemed well, we got onto the network...BUT next
day,(after i'd gone home) he turned on computer and NO NETWORK CONNECTIONS
present...Has the bios disabled the card too? What on earth can I try next?
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All help gratefully received

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All help gratefully received

Author
12 Oct 2006 12:49 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
In news:739E606A-F42F-492E-BEA1-7501ABCAC9F9@microsoft.com,
fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
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> Hi there, I'm locked in mortal combat with my son's computer..Win XP
> sp2. At home, his computer was connected directly to mine via
> (crossover?) cable. Worked fine, he connected to the internet through
> my machine. Delivered him to university, He's provided with a fast
> connection into the university system. When he tried to pug into the
> system, his comp. kept saying "a cable is unplugged", which it
> wasn't. He borrowed another comp. and tested his physical connection
> (cable+scket) they were fine, the other comp. went straight onto the
> network. We then thought maybe the lan connection was searching for
> our home network (despite setting up everything according to
> university instructions). After a lot of research, i uninstalled the
> lan (from the device manager) and tried a fresh connection...no joy.
> same message..The Lan is onboard so couldn't be physically
> uninstalled...the light came on intermittently when the cable was
> plugged in.. and so I figured maybe he'd damaged the connection when
> taking cables in and out....Really cheesed off by now..went and got
> an ethernet card...BUT when I installed the card +driver, the
> computer resurrected the uninstalled onboard Lan too...and now we're
> getting "limited or no Connectivity". and or "A network cable is
> unplugged"  .SO I went into the BIos and disbled the onboard Lan,
> configured the card and  TERRific..all seemed well, we got onto the
> network...BUT next day,(after i'd gone home) he turned on computer
> and NO NETWORK CONNECTIONS present...Has the bios disabled the card
> too? What on earth can I try next? --
> All help gratefully received

The BIOS is not the likely culprit here. Is the new card showing up in
device manager? Is the onboard NIC? If you don't want to use that, it can be
disabled *there* - no need to go into the BIOS for it if you don't want.

In the network card properties in Network Connections, is it set to
autosense, or is it locked to a specific speed or duplex setting? He may
need to play with the settings to get it to work on this other network by
trying various settings therein.
Author
12 Oct 2006 2:01 PM
fedup
Hi there, thanks for your response...I went into the bios to disable the
onboard Lan because when I installed the software for the new ethernet card,
the nic ( reappearred! I have now got the ethernet card back in device
manager (took all PCI cards out and just put the ethernet card back), it is
connecting to his academic network...I would still prefer to use the onboard
Lan especially as it now seems likely that the problem arises when his sound
card is plugged in at the same time. can autosense be used on an onboard lan?
IF THE NETWORK CARD AND ONBOARD LAN ARE BOTH INSTALLED, SHOULD I HAVE 2 LOCAL
AREA CONNECTION ICONS? i ONLY EVER HAD ONE, WHICH MAKES IT HARD TO KNOW WHICH
ONE YOU'RE CONFIGURING?--
All help gratefully received


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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> In news:739E606A-F42F-492E-BEA1-7501ABCAC9F9@microsoft.com,
> fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > Hi there, I'm locked in mortal combat with my son's computer..Win XP
> > sp2. At home, his computer was connected directly to mine via
> > (crossover?) cable. Worked fine, he connected to the internet through
> > my machine. Delivered him to university, He's provided with a fast
> > connection into the university system. When he tried to pug into the
> > system, his comp. kept saying "a cable is unplugged", which it
> > wasn't. He borrowed another comp. and tested his physical connection
> > (cable+scket) they were fine, the other comp. went straight onto the
> > network. We then thought maybe the lan connection was searching for
> > our home network (despite setting up everything according to
> > university instructions). After a lot of research, i uninstalled the
> > lan (from the device manager) and tried a fresh connection...no joy.
> > same message..The Lan is onboard so couldn't be physically
> > uninstalled...the light came on intermittently when the cable was
> > plugged in.. and so I figured maybe he'd damaged the connection when
> > taking cables in and out....Really cheesed off by now..went and got
> > an ethernet card...BUT when I installed the card +driver, the
> > computer resurrected the uninstalled onboard Lan too...and now we're
> > getting "limited or no Connectivity". and or "A network cable is
> > unplugged"  .SO I went into the BIos and disbled the onboard Lan,
> > configured the card and  TERRific..all seemed well, we got onto the
> > network...BUT next day,(after i'd gone home) he turned on computer
> > and NO NETWORK CONNECTIONS present...Has the bios disabled the card
> > too? What on earth can I try next? --
> > All help gratefully received
>
> The BIOS is not the likely culprit here. Is the new card showing up in
> device manager? Is the onboard NIC? If you don't want to use that, it can be
> disabled *there* - no need to go into the BIOS for it if you don't want.
>
> In the network card properties in Network Connections, is it set to
> autosense, or is it locked to a specific speed or duplex setting? He may
> need to play with the settings to get it to work on this other network by
> trying various settings therein.
>
>
>
Author
12 Oct 2006 4:02 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
In news:89993316-AA88-415A-8905-D53A8C498B90@microsoft.com,
fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> Hi there, thanks for your response...I went into the bios to disable
> the onboard Lan because when I installed the software for the new
> ethernet card, the nic ( reappearred! I have now got the ethernet
> card back in device manager (took all PCI cards out and just put the
> ethernet card back), it is connecting to his academic network...I
> would still prefer to use the onboard Lan especially as it now seems
> likely that the problem arises when his sound card is plugged in at
> the same time. can autosense be used on an onboard lan? IF THE
> NETWORK CARD AND ONBOARD LAN ARE BOTH INSTALLED, SHOULD I HAVE 2
> LOCAL AREA CONNECTION ICONS?

Yes.

>  i ONLY EVER HAD ONE, WHICH MAKES IT HARD
> TO KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE CONFIGURING?--

You can see the name of the card - change the view in Network Connections to
"details" instead of "icons" to make this easier.

You can right-click on the card in here or in Device Manager and choose
Disable.


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> All help gratefully received
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> In news:739E606A-F42F-492E-BEA1-7501ABCAC9F9@microsoft.com,
>> fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>> Hi there, I'm locked in mortal combat with my son's computer..Win XP
>>> sp2. At home, his computer was connected directly to mine via
>>> (crossover?) cable. Worked fine, he connected to the internet
>>> through my machine. Delivered him to university, He's provided with
>>> a fast connection into the university system. When he tried to pug
>>> into the system, his comp. kept saying "a cable is unplugged",
>>> which it wasn't. He borrowed another comp. and tested his physical
>>> connection (cable+scket) they were fine, the other comp. went
>>> straight onto the network. We then thought maybe the lan connection
>>> was searching for our home network (despite setting up everything
>>> according to university instructions). After a lot of research, i
>>> uninstalled the lan (from the device manager) and tried a fresh
>>> connection...no joy. same message..The Lan is onboard so couldn't
>>> be physically uninstalled...the light came on intermittently when
>>> the cable was plugged in.. and so I figured maybe he'd damaged the
>>> connection when taking cables in and out....Really cheesed off by
>>> now..went and got an ethernet card...BUT when I installed the card
>>> +driver, the computer resurrected the uninstalled onboard Lan
>>> too...and now we're getting "limited or no Connectivity". and or "A
>>> network cable is unplugged"  .SO I went into the BIos and disbled
>>> the onboard Lan, configured the card and  TERRific..all seemed
>>> well, we got onto the network...BUT next day,(after i'd gone home)
>>> he turned on computer and NO NETWORK CONNECTIONS present...Has the
>>> bios disabled the card too? What on earth can I try next? --
>>> All help gratefully received
>>
>> The BIOS is not the likely culprit here. Is the new card showing up
>> in device manager? Is the onboard NIC? If you don't want to use
>> that, it can be disabled *there* - no need to go into the BIOS for
>> it if you don't want.
>>
>> In the network card properties in Network Connections, is it set to
>> autosense, or is it locked to a specific speed or duplex setting? He
>> may need to play with the settings to get it to work on this other
>> network by trying various settings therein.
Author
12 Oct 2006 7:12 PM
fedup
Sounds good to me....as my son is currently out and about, I won't be able to
try this out just yet, but i reckon most concerns are covered. (Have also
mailed mboard manufactures re "dodgy" onboard Lan).  If I get stuck again
I'll certainly look for help here. Thanks so much for your help.
--
All help gratefully received


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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> In news:89993316-AA88-415A-8905-D53A8C498B90@microsoft.com,
> fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > Hi there, thanks for your response...I went into the bios to disable
> > the onboard Lan because when I installed the software for the new
> > ethernet card, the nic ( reappearred! I have now got the ethernet
> > card back in device manager (took all PCI cards out and just put the
> > ethernet card back), it is connecting to his academic network...I
> > would still prefer to use the onboard Lan especially as it now seems
> > likely that the problem arises when his sound card is plugged in at
> > the same time. can autosense be used on an onboard lan? IF THE
> > NETWORK CARD AND ONBOARD LAN ARE BOTH INSTALLED, SHOULD I HAVE 2
> > LOCAL AREA CONNECTION ICONS?
>
> Yes.
>
> >  i ONLY EVER HAD ONE, WHICH MAKES IT HARD
> > TO KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE CONFIGURING?--
>
> You can see the name of the card - change the view in Network Connections to
> "details" instead of "icons" to make this easier.
>
> You can right-click on the card in here or in Device Manager and choose
> Disable.
>
>
> > All help gratefully received
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >> In news:739E606A-F42F-492E-BEA1-7501ABCAC9F9@microsoft.com,
> >> fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> >>> Hi there, I'm locked in mortal combat with my son's computer..Win XP
> >>> sp2. At home, his computer was connected directly to mine via
> >>> (crossover?) cable. Worked fine, he connected to the internet
> >>> through my machine. Delivered him to university, He's provided with
> >>> a fast connection into the university system. When he tried to pug
> >>> into the system, his comp. kept saying "a cable is unplugged",
> >>> which it wasn't. He borrowed another comp. and tested his physical
> >>> connection (cable+scket) they were fine, the other comp. went
> >>> straight onto the network. We then thought maybe the lan connection
> >>> was searching for our home network (despite setting up everything
> >>> according to university instructions). After a lot of research, i
> >>> uninstalled the lan (from the device manager) and tried a fresh
> >>> connection...no joy. same message..The Lan is onboard so couldn't
> >>> be physically uninstalled...the light came on intermittently when
> >>> the cable was plugged in.. and so I figured maybe he'd damaged the
> >>> connection when taking cables in and out....Really cheesed off by
> >>> now..went and got an ethernet card...BUT when I installed the card
> >>> +driver, the computer resurrected the uninstalled onboard Lan
> >>> too...and now we're getting "limited or no Connectivity". and or "A
> >>> network cable is unplugged"  .SO I went into the BIos and disbled
> >>> the onboard Lan, configured the card and  TERRific..all seemed
> >>> well, we got onto the network...BUT next day,(after i'd gone home)
> >>> he turned on computer and NO NETWORK CONNECTIONS present...Has the
> >>> bios disabled the card too? What on earth can I try next? --
> >>> All help gratefully received
> >>
> >> The BIOS is not the likely culprit here. Is the new card showing up
> >> in device manager? Is the onboard NIC? If you don't want to use
> >> that, it can be disabled *there* - no need to go into the BIOS for
> >> it if you don't want.
> >>
> >> In the network card properties in Network Connections, is it set to
> >> autosense, or is it locked to a specific speed or duplex setting? He
> >> may need to play with the settings to get it to work on this other
> >> network by trying various settings therein.
>
>
>
>
Author
13 Oct 2006 3:55 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
In news:50E1BD36-A630-42E8-B379-C08097FC9E7E@microsoft.com,
fedup <fe***@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> Sounds good to me....as my son is currently out and about, I won't be
> able to try this out just yet, but i reckon most concerns are
> covered. (Have also mailed mboard manufactures re "dodgy" onboard
> Lan).  If I get stuck again I'll certainly look for help here. Thanks
> so much for your help.

No worries - post back if you need more help.

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