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Author
17 Oct 2006 10:17 AM
Alan
I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows Professional PC
with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of two
PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that Windows
Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't know
about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only listed
Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup Floppy
with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as client. I
can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network connections
on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to `Never
dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically detect
settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as suggested -
making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the client
connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it asks
what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am still
no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?

Author
17 Oct 2006 11:23 AM
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
Get yourself a broadband router and save yourself the general hassle of
ICS..

http://www.dlink.com/consumer/

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



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"Alan" <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows Professional
>PC
> with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of two
> PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that
> Windows
> Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't know
> about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only
> listed
> Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup
> Floppy
> with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as client.
> I
> can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
> The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network connections
> on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to
> `Never
> dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically detect
> settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as
> suggested -
> making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the client
> connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it
> asks
> what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am
> still
> no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?
Author
17 Oct 2006 2:13 PM
Chuck
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:17:02 -0700, Alan <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows Professional PC
>with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of two
>PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that Windows
>Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't know
>about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only listed
>Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup Floppy
>with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as client. I
>can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
>The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network connections
>on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to `Never
>dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically detect
>settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as suggested -
>making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the client
>connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it asks
>what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am still
>no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?

I have to concur with Mike.  You say "I did not feel that networking of two PC's
needed the comlexity of a router...".  As inexpensive as routers are, setting
one up for even 2 computers is almost always a good decision.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/proper-network-design.html#Router>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/proper-network-design.html#Router

And in your case, solving your problem will probably take longer than installing
a router.  So get one, and be done with it.  You'll be safer, and better off.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
18 Oct 2006 10:18 AM
Bob Willard
Alan wrote:
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> I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows Professional PC
> with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of two
> PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that Windows
> Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't know
> about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only listed
> Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup Floppy
> with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as client. I
> can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
> The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network connections
> on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to `Never
> dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically detect
> settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as suggested -
> making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the client
> connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it asks
> what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am still
> no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?

I concur with Mike's & Chuck's suggesttion to use a router instead of ICS.

Win2K is an earlier version of NT than XP, but it has always supported
Ethernet; even pre-NT flavors of Win support Ethernet.
--
Cheers, Bob
Author
18 Oct 2006 5:08 PM
Alan
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"Bob Willard" wrote:

> Alan wrote:
> > I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows Professional PC
> > with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of two
> > PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that Windows
> > Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't know
> > about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only listed
> > Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup Floppy
> > with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as client. I
> > can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
> > The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network connections
> > on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to `Never
> > dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically detect
> > settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as suggested -
> > making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the client
> > connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it asks
> > what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am still
> > no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?
>
> I concur with Mike's & Chuck's suggesttion to use a router instead of ICS.
>
> Win2K is an earlier version of NT than XP, but it has always supported
> Ethernet; even pre-NT flavors of Win support Ethernet.
> --
> Cheers, Bob
> Thank you Mike, Chuckand Bob for your fst responses. You all concur on the solution. Just to clarify what I was saying having sucessfully set up and shared files etc, it seemed just a small step to share Broadband-but obviuosly not! I am not clear about hoe a router solves the problem also my BT Voyager 105 Modem has only one USB connection. Is this a problem. Mike yes Win2K must support Ethernet because I can share over my cable but If I use the Win2K Connection Wizard, the two options shown are LPT1 and COM1/COM2. Having got to where I am I don't want to create other problems.
Regards and thanks, Alan
Author
18 Oct 2006 8:21 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
Alan

You did not make us aware that your modem is USB only.. many have USB and
Ethernet connection capability, which makes the use of a router very
simple.. in view of your hardware, go to this website for instruction on how
to set up and use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).. as long as your Win
2000 machine has an Ethernet card fitted, and you are using a crossover
cable, you should be able to see the task through to success..

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_xp

Come back and tell us how you fared..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



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"Alan" <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Bob Willard" wrote:
>
>> Alan wrote:
>> > I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows
>> > Professional PC
>> > with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of
>> > two
>> > PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that
>> > Windows
>> > Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't
>> > know
>> > about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only
>> > listed
>> > Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup
>> > Floppy
>> > with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as
>> > client. I
>> > can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
>> > The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network
>> > connections
>> > on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to
>> > `Never
>> > dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically
>> > detect
>> > settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as
>> > suggested -
>> > making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the
>> > client
>> > connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it
>> > asks
>> > what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am
>> > still
>> > no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?
>>
>> I concur with Mike's & Chuck's suggesttion to use a router instead of
>> ICS.
>>
>> Win2K is an earlier version of NT than XP, but it has always supported
>> Ethernet; even pre-NT flavors of Win support Ethernet.
>> --
>> Cheers, Bob
>> Thank you Mike, Chuckand Bob for your fst responses. You all concur on
>> the solution. Just to clarify what I was saying having sucessfully set up
>> and shared files etc, it seemed just a small step to share Broadband-but
>> obviuosly not! I am not clear about hoe a router solves the problem also
>> my BT Voyager 105 Modem has only one USB connection. Is this a problem.
>> Mike yes Win2K must support Ethernet because I can share over my cable
>> but If I use the Win2K Connection Wizard, the two options shown are LPT1
>> and COM1/COM2. Having got to where I am I don't want to create other
>> problems.
> Regards and thanks, Alan
Author
19 Oct 2006 10:25 PM
Alan
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"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote:

> Alan
>
> You did not make us aware that your modem is USB only.. many have USB and
> Ethernet connection capability, which makes the use of a router very
> simple.. in view of your hardware, go to this website for instruction on how
> to set up and use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).. as long as your Win
> 2000 machine has an Ethernet card fitted, and you are using a crossover
> cable, you should be able to see the task through to success..
>
> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_xp
>
> Come back and tell us how you fared..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
>
>
> "Alan" <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B37B8A25-C9FD-4C79-A304-C974AB554C71@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Bob Willard" wrote:
> >
> >> Alan wrote:
> >> > I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows
> >> > Professional PC
> >> > with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking of
> >> > two
> >> > PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said that
> >> > Windows
> >> > Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000 didn't
> >> > know
> >> > about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP only
> >> > listed
> >> > Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network Setup
> >> > Floppy
> >> > with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as
> >> > client. I
> >> > can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
> >> > The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network
> >> > connections
> >> > on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to
> >> > `Never
> >> > dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically
> >> > detect
> >> > settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as
> >> > suggested -
> >> > making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the
> >> > client
> >> > connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when it
> >> > asks
> >> > what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I am
> >> > still
> >> > no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?
> >>
> >> I concur with Mike's & Chuck's suggesttion to use a router instead of
> >> ICS.
> >>
> >> Win2K is an earlier version of NT than XP, but it has always supported
> >> Ethernet; even pre-NT flavors of Win support Ethernet.
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Bob
> >> Thank you Mike, Chuckand Bob for your fst responses. You all concur on
> >> the solution. Just to clarify what I was saying having sucessfully set up
> >> and shared files etc, it seemed just a small step to share Broadband-but
> >> obviuosly not! I am not clear about hoe a router solves the problem also
> >> my BT Voyager 105 Modem has only one USB connection. Is this a problem.
> >> Mike yes Win2K must support Ethernet because I can share over my cable
> >> but If I use the Win2K Connection Wizard, the two options shown are LPT1
> >> and COM1/COM2. Having got to where I am I don't want to create other
> >> problems.
> > Regards and thanks, Alan
>
>Thank you Mike for the Annoyances Website. I believe I setup Host (Broadband Internet Connection), and Client (Local Area Connection) as recommended. Certainly the Ethernet cable is working and will share files and printers both ways. So far so good.However I really am at a loss as to how I get to the Broadband connection from THe Client. From this point of view, things look much the same, and I don't have an Icon or anything to access the Broadband WEb or Email.
I would like further Help please.
Regards, Alan Blackburn

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Author
19 Oct 2006 11:59 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
As long as you set up the ICS part, clicking on IE6 should technically bring
up a working home page..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



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"Alan" <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote:
>
>> Alan
>>
>> You did not make us aware that your modem is USB only.. many have USB and
>> Ethernet connection capability, which makes the use of a router very
>> simple.. in view of your hardware, go to this website for instruction on
>> how
>> to set up and use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).. as long as your Win
>> 2000 machine has an Ethernet card fitted, and you are using a crossover
>> cable, you should be able to see the task through to success..
>>
>> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_xp
>>
>> Come back and tell us how you fared..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>>
>> "Alan" <A***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B37B8A25-C9FD-4C79-A304-C974AB554C71@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bob Willard" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Alan wrote:
>> >> > I have connected my main PC(Windows XP as host) to a Windows
>> >> > Professional PC
>> >> > with a cross wired Ethernet cable as I did not feel that networking
>> >> > of
>> >> > two
>> >> > PC's needed the comlexity of a router and port switch.I was said
>> >> > that
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > Professional 2000 was almost identical to XP, however the 2000
>> >> > didn't
>> >> > know
>> >> > about Ethernet, only older serial & parallel connections. Also XP
>> >> > only
>> >> > listed
>> >> > Windows 98, Millennium & XP for networking. I produced a Network
>> >> > Setup
>> >> > Floppy
>> >> > with the XP Network Setup Wizard, set XP as host & the W2000 PC as
>> >> > client. I
>> >> > can now share files and printers but not the Broadband connection.
>> >> > The 2000 machine has dial up and the XP Broadband. The Network
>> >> > connections
>> >> > on the host & client look unchanged. I have set Internet Explorer to
>> >> > `Never
>> >> > dial a connection' and `LAN setttings' and cleared `Automatically
>> >> > detect
>> >> > settings' & `Use automatic configuration script' check boxes as
>> >> > suggested -
>> >> > making no difference. I have tried to set up a connection using the
>> >> > client
>> >> > connection wizard, & `Connection through another computer' but when
>> >> > it
>> >> > asks
>> >> > what type of connection the alternatives are COM1,COM2 & LPT1 so I
>> >> > am
>> >> > still
>> >> > no closer to sharing the Broadband connections. Can you please help?
>> >>
>> >> I concur with Mike's & Chuck's suggesttion to use a router instead of
>> >> ICS.
>> >>
>> >> Win2K is an earlier version of NT than XP, but it has always supported
>> >> Ethernet; even pre-NT flavors of Win support Ethernet.
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers, Bob
>> >> Thank you Mike, Chuckand Bob for your fst responses. You all concur on
>> >> the solution. Just to clarify what I was saying having sucessfully set
>> >> up
>> >> and shared files etc, it seemed just a small step to share
>> >> Broadband-but
>> >> obviuosly not! I am not clear about hoe a router solves the problem
>> >> also
>> >> my BT Voyager 105 Modem has only one USB connection. Is this a
>> >> problem.
>> >> Mike yes Win2K must support Ethernet because I can share over my cable
>> >> but If I use the Win2K Connection Wizard, the two options shown are
>> >> LPT1
>> >> and COM1/COM2. Having got to where I am I don't want to create other
>> >> problems.
>> > Regards and thanks, Alan
>>
>>Thank you Mike for the Annoyances Website. I believe I setup Host
>>(Broadband Internet Connection), and Client (Local Area Connection) as
>>recommended. Certainly the Ethernet cable is working and will share files
>>and printers both ways. So far so good.However I really am at a loss as to
>>how I get to the Broadband connection from THe Client. From this point of
>>view, things look much the same, and I don't have an Icon or anything to
>>access the Broadband WEb or Email.
> I would like further Help please.
> Regards, Alan Blackburn
>
>>