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Users can't access internetI have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am the
administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If they try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else works fine. Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro and NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? Thanks Regards Steve
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> Steve,wrote: >I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am the >administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. > >Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, >then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If they >try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else works >fine. > >Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro and >NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? Thanks > >Regards > >Steve What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or extra software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is PPPoE, you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as the default gateway. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra
software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. Regards Steve Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" > <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >>the >>administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. >> >>Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, >>then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>they >>try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else works >>fine. >> >>Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>and >>NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>Thanks >> >>Regards >> >>Steve > > Steve, > > What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or > extra > software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is > PPPoE, > you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as the > default gateway. > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. Can anyone help? This is real frustrating, any advice would be appreciated.
Show quoteHide quote "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:ezfcULK9GHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra > software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. > > Regards > > Steve > > "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message > news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" >> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >>>the >>>administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. >>> >>>Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, >>>then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>>they >>>try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else works >>>fine. >>> >>>Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>>and >>>NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>>Thanks >>> >>>Regards >>> >>>Steve >> >> Steve, >> >> What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or >> extra >> software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is >> PPPoE, >> you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as >> the >> default gateway. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. >> My email is AT DOT >> actual address pchuck mvps org. > >
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:09:24 +0100, "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> Steve,wrote: >"StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:ezfcULK9GHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra >> software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. >> >> Regards >> >> Steve >> >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" >>> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >>>>the >>>>administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>>>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. >>>> >>>>Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, >>>>then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>>>they >>>>try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else works >>>>fine. >>>> >>>>Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>>>and >>>>NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>Steve >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>> What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or >>> extra >>> software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is >>> PPPoE, >>> you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as >>> the >>> default gateway. >Can anyone help? This is real frustrating, any advice would be appreciated. The question is, what do you do (automatically maybe) when you log on, versus what do they do? Did you install any software that only runs under your account? Try Autoruns, or MSConfig, and identify each process that's automatically started. You may have to compare what you do, versus what the users do. What are the symptoms of "the 3 users can't" (access the Internet)? Is it a DNS problem maybe? Can the users successfully ping the router when they can't access the Internet? I know Zone Alarm has an Internet Off switch. Check the ZA documentation. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thanks for the advice Chuck, but I think a little progress has been made
which may help you to help me further! I noticed that the Netgear WG311 configuration utility, which normally launches when I've logged on as the "Administrator", doesn't load under "user" accounts. So, whilst logged on a "user" account, I ran the utility's executable as "Administrator" and...Shazam! The Netgear WG311 configuration utility loads and the "user" account is given internet access. I think this points to user access rights/ file sharing issues, what do you think? I've already disabled simple file sharing, the Netgear software folder is shared. Maybe I haven't done this correctly, my networking skills aren't much good! ZA, NAV appears to be correctly configured for all "users" because everything works fine IF, I log on and off first, the users has no problems getting online. Cheers Show quoteHide quote "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message news:a22mj2t24cga5qh6bosq03vbdn43fast81@4ax.com... > On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:09:24 +0100, "StarChild" > <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> > wrote: > >>"StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:ezfcULK9GHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra >>> software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>> news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" >>>> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I >>>>>am >>>>>the >>>>>administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>>>>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user >>>>>accounts. >>>>> >>>>>Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log >>>>>on, >>>>>then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>>>>they >>>>>try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else >>>>>works >>>>>fine. >>>>> >>>>>Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>>>>and >>>>>NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>>>Regards >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>> >>>> Steve, >>>> >>>> What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or >>>> extra >>>> software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is >>>> PPPoE, >>>> you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as >>>> the >>>> default gateway. > >>Can anyone help? This is real frustrating, any advice would be >>appreciated. > > Steve, > > The question is, what do you do (automatically maybe) when you log on, > versus > what do they do? Did you install any software that only runs under your > account? > > Try Autoruns, or MSConfig, and identify each process that's automatically > started. You may have to compare what you do, versus what the users do. > > What are the symptoms of "the 3 users can't" (access the Internet)? Is it > a DNS > problem maybe? Can the users successfully ping the router when they can't > access the Internet? I know Zone Alarm has an Internet Off switch. Check > the > ZA documentation. > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org.
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:52:05 +0100, "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> Sounds like you got it. I just wonder why a configuration utility has to runwrote: >"Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >news:a22mj2t24cga5qh6bosq03vbdn43fast81@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:09:24 +0100, "StarChild" >> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>>"StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>news:ezfcULK9GHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra >>>> software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" >>>>> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I >>>>>>am >>>>>>the >>>>>>administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>>>>>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user >>>>>>accounts. >>>>>> >>>>>>Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log >>>>>>on, >>>>>>then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>>>>>they >>>>>>try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else >>>>>>works >>>>>>fine. >>>>>> >>>>>>Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>>>>>and >>>>>>NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards >>>>>> >>>>>>Steve >>>>> >>>>> Steve, >>>>> >>>>> What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or >>>>> extra >>>>> software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is >>>>> PPPoE, >>>>> you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as >>>>> the >>>>> default gateway. >> >>>Can anyone help? This is real frustrating, any advice would be >>>appreciated. >> >> Steve, >> >> The question is, what do you do (automatically maybe) when you log on, >> versus >> what do they do? Did you install any software that only runs under your >> account? >> >> Try Autoruns, or MSConfig, and identify each process that's automatically >> started. You may have to compare what you do, versus what the users do. >> >> What are the symptoms of "the 3 users can't" (access the Internet)? Is it >> a DNS >> problem maybe? Can the users successfully ping the router when they can't >> access the Internet? I know Zone Alarm has an Internet Off switch. Check >> the >> ZA documentation. >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html >Thanks for the advice Chuck, but I think a little progress has been made >which may help you to help me further! I noticed that the Netgear WG311 >configuration utility, which normally launches when I've logged on as the >"Administrator", doesn't load under "user" accounts. So, whilst logged on a >"user" account, I ran the utility's executable as "Administrator" >and...Shazam! The Netgear WG311 configuration utility loads and the "user" >account is given internet access. > >I think this points to user access rights/ file sharing issues, what do you >think? I've already disabled simple file sharing, the Netgear software >folder is shared. Maybe I haven't done this correctly, my networking skills >aren't much good! ZA, NAV appears to be correctly configured for all "users" >because everything works fine IF, I log on and off first, the users has no >problems getting online. each time you want Internet access. In your case, if you move the shortcut from Administrator to All Users, I would think it should run, and your problem should be resolved. For a NAT router, I would think you'd configure it once, thru your browser, and you'd be done. If this works for you, though, enjoy. If not, let us know, and we'll dig further. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Chuck wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:52:05 +0100, "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> If I understand correctly, it's not the ROUTER configuration utility, > wrote: > >> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >> news:a22mj2t24cga5qh6bosq03vbdn43fast81@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:09:24 +0100, "StarChild" >>> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:ezfcULK9GHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> My internet connection is ADSL. No, it doesn't require a dialer or extra >>>>> software, and my router is set up for PPPoE. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> "Chuck" <n***@example.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:q2eij29pekhisoonc3df8v6cpsh8v0v9fq@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:12 +0100, "StarChild" >>>>>> <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I >>>>>>> am >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>>>>>> Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user >>>>>>> accounts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log >>>>>>> on, >>>>>>> then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else >>>>>>> works >>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>> Steve, >>>>>> >>>>>> What type of Internet service do you have? Does it require a dialer or >>>>>> extra >>>>>> software on the computer? Maybe Dialup Networking? If your service is >>>>>> PPPoE, >>>>>> you should set the router up for PPPoE, and connect thru the router as >>>>>> the >>>>>> default gateway. >>>> Can anyone help? This is real frustrating, any advice would be >>>> appreciated. >>> Steve, >>> >>> The question is, what do you do (automatically maybe) when you log on, >>> versus >>> what do they do? Did you install any software that only runs under your >>> account? >>> >>> Try Autoruns, or MSConfig, and identify each process that's automatically >>> started. You may have to compare what you do, versus what the users do. >>> >>> What are the symptoms of "the 3 users can't" (access the Internet)? Is it >>> a DNS >>> problem maybe? Can the users successfully ping the router when they can't >>> access the Internet? I know Zone Alarm has an Internet Off switch. Check >>> the >>> ZA documentation. >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html >>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html> >>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html > >> Thanks for the advice Chuck, but I think a little progress has been made >> which may help you to help me further! I noticed that the Netgear WG311 >> configuration utility, which normally launches when I've logged on as the >> "Administrator", doesn't load under "user" accounts. So, whilst logged on a >> "user" account, I ran the utility's executable as "Administrator" >> and...Shazam! The Netgear WG311 configuration utility loads and the "user" >> account is given internet access. >> >> I think this points to user access rights/ file sharing issues, what do you >> think? I've already disabled simple file sharing, the Netgear software >> folder is shared. Maybe I haven't done this correctly, my networking skills >> aren't much good! ZA, NAV appears to be correctly configured for all "users" >> because everything works fine IF, I log on and off first, the users has no >> problems getting online. > > Sounds like you got it. I just wonder why a configuration utility has to run > each time you want Internet access. In your case, if you move the shortcut from > Administrator to All Users, I would think it should run, and your problem should > be resolved. > > For a NAT router, I would think you'd configure it once, thru your browser, and > you'd be done. If this works for you, though, enjoy. If not, let us know, and > we'll dig further. > but the wireless access point utility that is only starting when the OP logs in as an administrator. If moving the shortcut to All Users/Startup as Chuck suggested doesn't work (or if there is no shortcut in the startup folder because the utility is starting through one of the other WinXP startup mechanisms) perhaps disabling/uninstalling the Netgear utility and allowing WZC to manage your wireless connection would work better. [on the "Wireless networks" tab of the "wireless network connection properties" dialog, check the box to "Use windows to configure my wireless network settings"] -- Lem MS MVP -- Networking To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer The netgear config util runs at start-up to configure the wireless adapter,
not the router. It places an icon on the taskbar, however, this icon normally only shows up on the administrator's taskbar - never on a user's taskbar - but this does not prevent them from accessing the internet. This is the curious thing - all users can access the internet, provided that I log on first i.e user A starts the pc, logs on, starts IE, browser opens, that's it! I log on, log off, user a logs on...Bingo! The icon allows me to manually configure the wg311 wireless adapter i.e. WEP/WAP settings, network SSID, encryption keys etc. Netgear themselves recommend that you use this util and disable the windows equivalent. The netgear config util shortcut is already in the program list of all users. As suggested, I put a copy of the shortcut in the start up folder of all users and also in each individual user's start-up folder but this made no difference! this is giving me a headache, in fact, my wall now has a lovely concave impression exactly the shape and size of my forehead! Show quoteHide quote "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:Odg9R2H9GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >the administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. > > Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, > then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If > they try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else > works fine. > > Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro > and NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? > Thanks > > Regards > > Steve >
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:24:31 +0100, "StarChild" <starch***@ic24.net> wrote: OK, that's the connection manager. On some computers, you could have up to 3 ->"StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:Odg9R2H9GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >>the administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >>Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. >> >> Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, >> then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If >> they try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else >> works fine. >> >> Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro >> and NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? >> Thanks >> >> Regards >> >> Steve >The netgear config util runs at start-up to configure the wireless adapter, >not the router. It places an icon on the taskbar, however, this icon >normally only shows up on the administrator's taskbar - never on a user's >taskbar - but this does not prevent them from accessing the internet. This >is the curious thing - all users can access the internet, provided that I >log on first i.e user A starts the pc, logs on, starts IE, browser opens, >that's it! I log on, log off, user a logs on...Bingo! > >The icon allows me to manually configure the wg311 wireless adapter i.e. >WEP/WAP settings, network SSID, encryption keys etc. Netgear themselves >recommend that you use this util and disable the windows equivalent. > >The netgear config util shortcut is already in the program list of all >users. As suggested, I put a copy of the shortcut in the start up folder of >all users and also in each individual user's start-up folder but this made >no difference! > >this is giving me a headache, in fact, my wall now has a lovely concave >impression exactly the shape and size of my forehead! Windows XP WZC, one by the computer vendor, and one by the WiFi adapter vendor. You have to have one, but more than one will cause problems. Most people have one running all the time. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/01/stabilise-your-wifi-use-only-one-wifi.html The connection manager will involve other processes. You may want to run both Autoruns and Process Explorer, from the administrator account, to see what it involves. Then do the same under a user account. Just starting the manager itself won't suffice. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Eureka!!! Going on the premise that the netgear config is the problem,
specifically access rights; I thought about Lem's comment on placing the config util in the start up folder. I created a scheduled task for the config util to run at system start up using my administrator's credentials. Problem solved! Phew! What a pain that was. I'm pretty sure that my solution is pretty unorthodox, but hey, the end justifies the means and my headache has gone. Thank you, and Lem for your help and perseverance. Regards Steve Show quoteHide quote "StarChild" <steve.starch***@demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:Odg9R2H9GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I have 2 pc's, both running WindowsXP - Media Centre Edition SP2 , I am >the administrater on both. One is wired to a Netgear router, the other, a >Netgear wireless adapter. The wireless pc has myself and 3 user accounts. > > Problem is; I can access the internet but the 3 users can't! If I log on, > then log off or switch users, they are able to access the internet. If > they try without me having logged on first, they can't, everything else > works fine. > > Simple file sharing disabled, Windows Firewall disabled, Zone Alarm Pro > and NAV are installed and enabled. Netgear folder is shared. Any ideas? > Thanks > > Regards > > Steve > 
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