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Windows XP: 100 mbit connection gives no connectivity; 10 mbit oktwo Windows XP SP2 machines hooked up to a 10/100 mbit router to the internet. The machine I'm writing this from is hooked up just fine with a 100 mbit connection. The other machine, however, has some problems. The on-board 10/100 mbit NIC has worked previously, but no longer works since I reinstalled the computer for my father. I have a completely new installation of Windows -- as fresh as you can imagine -- but the network would not work. I first tried acquiring an IP address automatically, which, after about 5 long minutes of acquiring, returned the following: IP: 169.254.158.74 Gateway: 255.255.0.0 This seems to be in the domain of the standard settings if Windows uses when it can't reach the DHCP server. But as we know, the server is working fine since I'm using it as I type this message. I believe that connecting to the DHCP fails for some reason, perhaps because of the line speed (?). The router is set up such that it *should* be: Gateway (router's IP): 10.0.0.2 Subnet mask: 255.0.0.0 DNS (router's IP): 10.0.0.2 Just to be sure, I checked the status of the LAN here, and these are indeed the settings we should be using. Using the incorrectly appointed IP address above of course results in XP telling me I have 'limited or no connectivity', I can only send packets while no packets are received, and the network connection does zilch, i.e.: the computer cannot be seen nor can it see others. If I configure the network manually, using the proper settings, a network connection is made and Windows says everything is hunky-dory. However, once again, no packets are received from the router and the network connection still does zilch; Windows just doesn't know it. To my surprise, if I *only* change the line speed from 100 mbits to 10 mbits (either full or half, neither makes a difference) everything works like a charm, even getting an IP via DHCP. I've also tested the cable using a laptop; 100 mbits full-duplex works perfectly fine. The NIC device used uses the Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet chipset with driver version 5.649.615.2006 (most recent as of this message). It may be worth mentioning that I've tried resetting WinSock 2 (which wouldn't have been necessary anyway, since I just reinstalled XP) and IPv6 is *not* installed. Are you _sure_ the cable is wired correctly? Intermittency at 100MHz is
almost always because the signal is 'straddling a pair' in the cable instead of being on the two cores of a single pair. http://yoda.uvi.edu/InfoTech/RJ45.gif In article <1161872159.247604.286***@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Show quoteHide quote "Paul" <pflammert***@gmail.com> wrote: You've done some good troubleshooting to isolate the problem, Paul.>The following problem has had me stumped for the past few days. I have >two Windows XP SP2 machines hooked up to a 10/100 mbit router to the >internet. The machine I'm writing this from is hooked up just fine with >a 100 mbit connection. > >The other machine, however, has some problems. The on-board 10/100 mbit >NIC has worked previously, but no longer works since I reinstalled the >computer for my father. I have a completely new installation of Windows >-- as fresh as you can imagine -- but the network would not work. I >first tried acquiring an IP address automatically, which, after about 5 >long minutes of acquiring, returned the following: > >IP: 169.254.158.74 >Gateway: 255.255.0.0 > >This seems to be in the domain of the standard settings if Windows uses >when it can't reach the DHCP server. But as we know, the server is >working fine since I'm using it as I type this message. I believe that >connecting to the DHCP fails for some reason, perhaps because of the >line speed (?). > >The router is set up such that it *should* be: > >Gateway (router's IP): 10.0.0.2 >Subnet mask: 255.0.0.0 >DNS (router's IP): 10.0.0.2 > >Just to be sure, I checked the status of the LAN here, and these are >indeed the settings we should be using. > >Using the incorrectly appointed IP address above of course results in >XP telling me I have 'limited or no connectivity', I can only send >packets while no packets are received, and the network connection does >zilch, i.e.: the computer cannot be seen nor can it see others. > >If I configure the network manually, using the proper settings, a >network connection is made and Windows says everything is hunky-dory. >However, once again, no packets are received from the router and the >network connection still does zilch; Windows just doesn't know it. > >To my surprise, if I *only* change the line speed from 100 mbits to 10 >mbits (either full or half, neither makes a difference) everything >works like a charm, even getting an IP via DHCP. > >I've also tested the cable using a laptop; 100 mbits full-duplex works >perfectly fine. > >The NIC device used uses the Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet >chipset with driver version 5.649.615.2006 (most recent as of this >message). It may be worth mentioning that I've tried resetting WinSock >2 (which wouldn't have been necessary anyway, since I just reinstalled >XP) and IPv6 is *not* installed. Connecting successfully at 10 mbit but not at 100 mbit usually means that something in the network hardware is substandard. An improperly wired cable is the most common problem that I've seen. If the same cable and router port work OK with another computer, that points to the Realtek NIC as the likely culprit. Try connecting that NIC using a different cable and different router port. If nothing else works, consider installing a second network adapter. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thanks for the hasty reply, you two!
I have indeed briefly tried using another NIC, but had some difficulties removing the drivers for the old one and didn't have enough time to really test it well. First impression was that the behavior was very similar if not the same. This leads me to believe that the network cable is indeed damaged. I'm still puzzled as to why 100 mbits worked using my notebook. I will try placing the router next to the PC and hooking up a working cable to it directly. I will be sure to post the results. Regards, Paul Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote: Show quoteHide quote > You've done some good troubleshooting to isolate the problem, Paul. > > Connecting successfully at 10 mbit but not at 100 mbit usually means > that something in the network hardware is substandard. An improperly > wired cable is the most common problem that I've seen. > > If the same cable and router port work OK with another computer, that > points to the Realtek NIC as the likely culprit. Try connecting that > NIC using a different cable and different router port. > > If nothing else works, consider installing a second network adapter. > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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